Oct 3, 2013|
Michael Holley, Mike Salk, Lou Merloni and John Dennis preview the Rays at Red Sox AL Divisional Series live from Remy's by Fenway.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
What you like baseball is going to be the place to be for the next two hours three hours excuse me here at -- roundtable. Here on WEEI -- all Michael Holland -- Maloney John Dennis. Altogether this hour gentlemen how are you. I tell you not to be honest -- I am I am I've never been this nervous in forty years abroad and how nervous yeah I am I am humbled. I am honored I am proud to be in the presence of Paul the salt it all -- and I'm still just trying to hold up my end here. Also pull all of that all -- you -- a lot I can -- on her death magnetic I did. There's when they introduce yourselves yeah you might get a -- -- -- I kind of I know Ali but you guys kind of my head there's still recover. Ring from the firm pitching like that is equally spewing out the answer this with your former Red Sox player breaks your hand every time you shake it. What Dobson Dwight Evans well you know snapped them whatever those -- are at your end or Jordan or Iraq come from managed my hand is injured. From the handshake that he does does better than just that this -- squared are you I don't. Working out of waters I don't yeah I guess a lot away. While John Dennis is -- -- a little Maloney is with us a -- start with you and -- -- Your guy the guy that you glom on to from the very beginning. Of this baseball -- yankees manager Joseph -- seat to the best lefties in the game in this series who starts against them Stephen Drew. -- -- -- -- Drew starts against -- more on the exit question I think it's opening day's gonna start these numbers actually knows that two for five small sample David Price -- we interest at all for ten. What 67 straight 'cause I know what it is it's a battle for tan that's it is and so you wanna have that discussion. What do you think I think it could probably -- it started to -- graduate -- go to a kid. Game till the against the lefty what do you think he's gonna do is not a chance that the printer -- gonna start both of of our trust that went behind your kids do they. Nobody is you don't miss a thing if he goes up it -- offense because they reprise what they know is. The big critic hit defense they get a get a guy that's been there before that the moments not too big. Maybe as a profit that maybe gets a walk -- be his lucky blue suit and there may be after seven innings is less that that is no longer against. You know David writes I think they value defense in my suggested that would be the position we're not gonna get the office from today but really get the. All along or they value deepens I think we've been over -- in this Stephen Drew or Zander programs maybe it's either ladies your boy. John -- not you know I know I'm Donna roster. He's okay well you'll notice it but but but if if you look at if you don't play defense at -- jocular way John -- it's that it. He doesn't go to Lou Zander -- to -- just for Stephen Drew maybe looks at Vanderbilt Arkansas as well. I don't Stephen Drew is not gonna guess that have no idea what am -- different gender Bogart's. In into a pressure situation. They got people guards at all we keep looking at a that's true vs Bogart and maybe is another -- or -- they can. Seattle I don't know I think study Mac is there for injury one major way some -- happen he's a great defensive play there's no question about it but -- I just that he did it. You gonna Wear low lit the Atlantic yesterday. -- describe him all he always does the threats of. Let me ask you this does eleven pictures indicate a sort of lack of confidence in one of your starters at this point. Mean is that the eleven picture they -- the temperature there. Because the smartest guy in the whole Major League Baseball mad only at night all -- I'm all it is that a ball get to that -- -- that they ought to put this -- the -- or the eleven picture an indication that they think maybe one of these guys might get rocked early on. I think isn't occasionally there's been using the eighth. Both seven that you don't hear it gets if you look at the team right they got a closer they got an eighth inning guy so when I went and I don't want about losing I don't want that you want. Writes if you get six guys that got four guys that throw a case where little burn them. We get burned Atlanta protect these guys yet he might have four guys he wants to protect you might look at exactly -- we are -- now Breslow. Maybe even work and he really likes written Workman. So -- down 41 in the fifth inning. I need three guys to get to do the rest of the game. Do it calm down you got ahead of him well it Dempster to keep you admitted seven it want it and I had a goal if it's -- and if it's Britain if it's whoever it is Morales I -- -- use of guys were down. Some of it has to do with their offense just aren't that many guys in this offense that you're gonna pinch hit for right and how many guys would you really seriously think about you got a righty lefty guys that you have all year with carping Gomes and and novice who can switch enemy you've got that -- through and -- it really just drew and I got -- specifically to commit to play shortstop after that whether you pinch hit him. Or PJ Gomes the right hander and then bring in -- -- simply short. You just don't need that many position players -- got a quick buried for that one won't. It wouldn't what does it look like you are lethal -- is what happens you start an achievement for center where he horse -- -- pinch -- left field. Right you appreciate for. Colmes she pitches from maybe copper v.s out there late which different not a maybe to if a lefty comes in and -- -- -- right side. Who goes plays left these ads completely and that the media project you don't get a -- -- that -- -- and -- -- -- look. Don't -- -- -- -- -- the scouting report says but if you could comparing like with probably the last guy on the roster with -- verses Jackie Bradley junior -- who might not make it. Who has the advantage obviously base running biggest Barry does by a lot that's it by a lot and -- while lot well defensively -- He's a base runner yeah base steal yeah he's not that fast. He's a good speeding car stinks but he's not only slow down very fast and -- -- -- article reveals -- fast. It brings you the question who's the better player but did you if you talk about that last if it comes down to the last roster spot would you rather have. Clinton vary or -- Jacqui Brett quit -- really. I'm a little island you don't like -- I didn't -- wow this is going to be a reference to bill Belichick's situation I'll put also right situation a baseball your -- overall player because he's not gonna see that much time either one. Steve that what we're seeing this from the Red Sox in championship seasons before to having situational players. Pokey -- committed in the late innings Doug Mientkiewicz -- -- -- -- any of the better player than have -- -- are but he was a guy you needed to play Barcelona based Internet darling -- listening and all of her money didn't -- literal analogy doesn't work because of alarm was on the heels of a roster to -- not like -- whether I I'm not choosing -- -- a -- -- -- you need somebody specifically for. But job for a situation -- -- of the deal drag relate. -- broadly they're flat Dave Roberts installed base rallied just use a base stealer and nobody gets their final spot. Look at -- authority is that -- or why the hell is Matt doing his habit that you were action would like to say why the -- is -- well here's an that you -- looking into horror look at Beth Orton who. You might be awful for two guys he might be on this roster for you guys. David -- three for 23 off his career. Luke Scott is all for six out of his career. You might be on for you guys that situation ever comes up if if they don't have an installed base from quit very near the wanted to might get this game you know so it. Is this what you get to those when he fought -- what if it meant I need something specific way you can help meet serious situation and I just gonna carry me are so. Let's back it up and go back -- this relates back to the drew -- thinking Michael what you brought up in terms of OK we'll have we seen Bogart's in those situations why didn't we see more of that and we talked to Ferrell about it we asked him about it okay that the game against Baltimore where he made a couple of curious decisions and didn't pinch hit for drew didn't steal Barry when he brought him in the I just kept thinking OK I understand why you might do the -- this is the last shot but don't you wanna see. -- a big situation I was because it's going to be in the playoffs what -- looks like your kidneys -- -- gonna use our deep -- I'm not sure they do I guess -- got the DNA of the Red Sox organization don't they always err on the side of waiting longer as opposed to going earlier these guys that you've waited until the fact that you're now in the playoffs and we may see -- pinch -- for -- for the first time. In the playoffs you wonder about his defense. What can I get more -- NATO led improve your play defense got deeper -- -- do you know you -- pitches for him in the seventh -- already situational lefty right -- at -- by the way you you tie the game you get the lead okay now go play shortstop for the last couple wins -- -- in the playoff right you know that's tough that's a tough gig he's got to go to. Guys get the sense that made at that game last night I predicted 63 Indians should work out that -- -- The game last night I thought it is we're gonna win almost worked but do you feel like the Red Sox. Plan for the raised the entire time that they just had a sense that that's -- they -- gotta match up with. Well there there are two ways to look at this Ben told us this morning they had to plans to. Right assessments to you know metrics to analytics both teams but I think what you said is exactly right they they knew it was going to be. You know Asia that I will say this it seems to me that the only way the best chance Cleveland had a getting here. Was a one game -- were some the plucky happened they won one game if that were five game series against the rays were seven game series against the rays. 85% of the time the rays win that game. So you're looking at this and saying well maybe you want to give up -- bounces the wrong way -- -- pitch -- as a bad -- it would of the -- maybe they could win one game but I think they were they are. Yeah -- -- also think it. You looked at one of those two teams that select the patriots. If the jets are playing San Diego who you prepare more for they know an awful lot of over the stats they are there is exempt status and I needed more information on Cleveland this I don't know what Salazar has I don't know what Shaw and Craig in those guys Joseph -- giving out of the bullpen. What has what has -- it looked like. Lately what is the difference in Dubai also lately you know I mean they needed more information -- Cleveland that it -- have it on. On him might not have to worry about that stuff now because those guys are going home and you do have to worry about Tampa let's remind you guys 53015. Minutes from now we'll give away a pair of tickets. Right here on Sports -- 937 WEEI courtesy of Budweiser for tomorrow's. Game 11 pitch to be at 307 and it tomorrow morning John on your show -- another pair of tickets to giveaway at 8:30 tomorrow morning at a four game two as we get game one tickets are fifteen minutes we'll tell you how to win the men and linking 2 tickets tomorrow morning. At 830 are now that it's over forget about Cleveland Terry Francona that drama what could have been. He goes home to try to think about next year and it's the Tampa. And he's got depressed last night. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't obliterate I didn't think I was sprayed the rays are really mind if I thought I was afraid to test as a rate of and then I watched the rays play the last few days again and realize as I was watching it. Though this is actually the team. -- -- -- in -- -- -- Texas gonna watch them likely a couple of wild card a couple of walker he's one of which you predicted would be campus has just come out there to applaud let Israel outlawed two games all of our all it's all. All eight teams left in baseball are -- -- not not there. To the degree that Texas was that Cleveland was that Tampa is how concerned you about taxes are about Tampa. I think you'll army -- I think David Price is the guy Matt Moore speaks at a high level up rice corn -- has been pitching great to put more -- that guy. That he was outstanding early years that he's come back if you look at him he's been pitching good. But it's five and -- third it's five innings six innings since he's been back here in September the area is low but he's not giving any -- In much like the Red Sox if I'm Tampa Bay I'm trying to figure out how to get the ball Rodney. And they got some problems so the Red Sox got to get him a little bit and he's doing with a 107 pitches five innings allowing east peace work it is not the same guy doesn't play well. I said result earlier this is it John you were going down my path here. What I hate about you I hate. The way people talk about him by hate the way talk about Joseph Maddon met I hate a little bit little engine that this good this we'll I don't know enough I hit all. -- and talk about Tampa as if they invented pitching yes you look at there ERA. There ERA for the seeded team we -- it was 374 Red Sox 379. It put the Red Sox by retirement five times a one run games the Red Sox for Ford won against Tampa in one run games. There is. They outscored Tampa by 888 models so what are we talking about here they gave it little. But we beat them head to head they're better teammates and 71 runs in nineteen games against three cent -- -- They went well others say well just of those twelve in the ninth getting a beyond bright dot fight but again -- like -- where the dog fight vs Tampa. It's not talking about -- but how great they are into the nice little story all that garbage yeah. Fired -- -- just don't like -- but you have to understand. Joseph Maddon drinks the finest broadcaster -- You watch a sport film but all the subtitles. And he goes of the guard -- museum every time he's in Boston is a Renaissance man should what I think the matchup would you go check Mark Ferrell purses -- Caller called push really caller put up. I mean he has this reputation of being the Einstein of Major League Baseball where do you really are. Well here's the difference the difference is he gives you stuff. He says interesting stuff is not a baseball -- talks about the resin bag and which side of the rubber you're standing on almost engage in this kind of. -- -- Yeah I got my house so far they -- Seattle think the advantage that Joseph Maddon gives the raise is what shows up. On the field hit dead in in a strategies element to Justine I think it's affected the -- the ray's story of the fact that they play in this dome people parked in a city that has. Zero interest in baseball whatsoever also had no money to spend it whether it's their it's not their fault said that all those things -- there and he's found a way to take his team beyond that to change the culture to remember how bad at the culture was there remembers seeing out and out of their race -- bright when they were right after right after Lou Piniella had been there. I remember coated about walker a clubhouse and who -- do and game on TV and there were guys on the team streaming. Don't let me hear that -- complete complete player looped it well again the other throws something and they were miserable. Place was the worst. The worst environment you could ever BN in the second worst but. And over -- any time the company is he is always -- thousand -- a dvd quality analysis I've got to turn around and hand and is kept it don't for a long time this thing. With Joseph where I think that he is the best. I think more than anyone else I think he is the most out of his players and I think it's the week communicates. Doctor gave -- I think -- shifts this of things I don't I don't I don't like that he doesn't seem to do that about everybody. But -- whether it's Casey Kotchman whether it's Jeff Keppinger whether it's James Loney. Whether it's whoever we all these guys that you sort of show up in Tampa it c'mon have these great years Casey got. Has been heard of parliament you 300 for Tampa your players -- why won't -- before they don't. Prosperity and wanted it isn't console and was a ball up because I don't not only ugly about what you're really not that's why he's going to forget -- I'm good. Because you talk about David -- And Matt Moore -- -- how. All close they have about forty home runs and I had hit 45 years previous close to those pitching and let's talk about how worldly and how great the guy is. You want -- talking about when listened to him we would listen don't talk about Barnhart and also the southern part of it which I. I feel I immediately -- volley I feeling you. I'd fist bump you -- reach you for your -- there you go all right I was not think that I expected during this round -- think I expected this last -- and if so frivolous like about this in the big picture and I know this is the end of ball on this is primitive this is metrics that in this is analytical. I think we can all agree that bit. If you're comparing elements of a team starting pitching gets the advantage for Tampa right correct. I think a lot I've got my I got the best you got caught more and price -- what you don't have to stop this stop. Barred from God's sake start for the Red Sox give me pretty solid guys and I think what I saw -- does better the offense the defense the base running the closer. Those are all significant think maybe not as -- a starting pitching. But I'm I'm gonna on this side of the side of like five things in my column vs one thing and Joe's call. I don't know probably simplistic but my pets -- Our Red Sox are better do you guys are gonna be so irritated by this I'm gonna read you something you guys are gonna be so especially Michael. And John equality and love it isn't pleased got to love up then isolated you Michael and John I -- I feel badly for blow Joseph Joseph Maddon was -- -- -- Well I read this you guys and as I feel sorry Spencer -- you can go Tracy -- we have. We've got Red Sox tickets to giveaway and I will read you this and I swear it'll drive you both applaud senator George -- -- its -- -- -- from the -- board. Until Matt Glover whether it's -- whether -- talking all the Red Sox a road to redemption roundtable here at W media. But the success -- basis is going to always. When its way through Boston New York whatever so I mean I just think for the most part 2008. Really established this. And a pencil. As being the road to go through this particular area to get to the we wanna be. The pomposity -- Joseph Maddon. This is the Red Sox road to redemption roundtable here in WEEI Mike thought Michael -- -- -- -- John Dennis. We are not enough can I got sound byte where he talks about his wine cellar where local I don't know about his foreign film the subtitles he's also went to bail wolf all the classic slumped -- Subtitled your show understands all the blood drives -- rarely does -- especially you -- the classics but he -- -- -- -- or Samsonite -- certainly for him I think you read them back like the original -- probably -- three minutes away we're -- Red Sox tickets for for tomorrow night's game also want to let you know quickly Dennis -- -- a four year sixteen million dollar extension with a no trade clause to stay in Boston's Dennis -- will be here for awhile. I told you that this would irritate you Michael and you do you know Joseph -- at -- Joseph Maddon just eight minutes ago to -- This. Isn't the best. Five game series all the while but I'd love for us to play it like each as they won game series. Like we just came for a our our and then he added it's not the name of the back of the Jersey it's a -- on a frail. The front out. Enter the house you have to beat the best drive all -- Eric -- GDP brilliant stuff. -- I'm just you know I just these jobs that these guys go on and -- I'm not Joseph man come tomorrow Joba has the right -- despite spandex yellow spandex -- with everything else they're the glass so wide in his camp and a backpack while riding the bike and he's gonna go up there is gonna manage -- -- -- -- -- classic. Is it is related to double days now that Italy could be a -- -- -- -- is like a bench coach in Anaheim and I love the gals are where I also love the Q what do you love someone -- the same it was just that was so unique I wasn't used to this. But receive a manager walked it like that baseball guys he'll throw like that Joey and them up near after the game. He doesn't. Is a glass of red wine are so many baskets just so you'd be -- a lot of red wine riding a bike backpack in yellow spandex how many games is that worth. Oh god that's where so many on 65 about it and then I remember that I think -- largely minutes here at 6 o'clock will be getting into the chemistry -- -- there Democrat threat right now though let's give away tickets -- the ninth caller at 617931. 09372. Win two tickets to game one of the AL BS at Fenway Park tomorrow afternoon it's courtesy of Budweiser being the ninth caller right now at 617. 9310937. -- a chance to win 2 tickets tomorrow morning at 830 on the Dennis and Callahan a minute hand although that will be for game 2 that's tomorrow morning another chance to. When asked -- this and we we have we have accepted this the Boston. It has gotten no second guessing whatsoever. John broke a double this post season rotation he says Jon Lester as the starter no problem there. Echo what John Lackey gave doom clay game three TV game four. Now. -- is a little controversial that he went with John Lackey in game two you're saying get a golden -- -- because of the split but you have. At least one pitcher who was much better. That John Lackey available for games. Overall quite all right well what you're you're not -- -- you've got to -- in -- situation -- and go to we're gonna go with clay in game three -- one person you're into your recognition of what is valuable what does invaluable based on whether they win game one is -- not right right it all changes they win game one that's like while that's a genius move. Well if they lose they weren't all right how about this. What about if they and let's assume this probably out of all 60% chance they lose one of the first two games they go to Tampa split. -- -- -- Is that -- -- buckles golden gate three to stem the momentum it is yes it's also good to have Clay Buchholz. I want -- -- to -- -- assuming you're gonna -- after -- -- -- -- -- -- Al Michaels and -- you've played in in five game series but I always think the most important games of series -- game seven or deciding game like that or the even numbered games game to game four games that give somebody an opportunity to get an -- getting to get a really big -- -- -- always says game for our it will most of the time it -- -- for. Is is -- game three -- a chance for somebody just go to little wanton or game five if somebody gets a chance to go three to two where is game for you got your chance to go three to one and a seven game series really seize control of it how big is game two and a series like missed. Well I think mutual against -- price. They have a clear cut -- before in my book the Red Sox directs us is archer is -- -- don't like garbage and militants venomous. You know -- leave it at the first three starters all got a pitching game right they all do less -- -- -- goal won -- five so I -- have a game from lack and it got to navigate from -- Who always lights out. Buckle -- put away prozac you're saying it's game three is -- -- I'm Jessica -- pretty good throughput that the point is that if if -- like so no matter where he is how to -- make all three of these daughters the best I can make them. John Lackey is an above average very good pitcher of the two foyer area well above average at all average on the road. So how -- maximized to Michael with my number one. And a guy that just a great pitcher. In general I thought average MB if that's the case -- beating game three Melissa Gonzales because Lackey on the road it's just not the same god loses effectiveness against lefties. Is great for this ballpark. Well obviously there -- all right let's dig into that why is John Lackey who were -- when he was -- and a he would say I hate Fenway apart we sums on cameramen that I hate hate us they played a bar right. And then -- he sat here it was a question it is going to be able to survive it that way how did that guy. Become so good at Fenway and not so good on the road because it was the opposite before. He just learned there's a walk if you look at some of the numbers like it to -- the other everywhere except lefties -- -- due to. All the -- like 760 unless unless your left the -- -- 560. But the lefties at Fenway huge difference everywhere else richter -- left these. Busy he doesn't have that great changeup against lefties he's a cutter guy you know he wants to pigeon who -- away but he cuts in a little bit too. So -- the easier Fenway Park good luck go get them that's why -- got -- victory to my second center fielder here it's a big ballpark Tampa Bay not so big. It's -- Colorado I'm not so big so. Did you hit the three best pitchers have put him in position to succeed. Lackey is it a great pitcher in this ballpark he's not a road so I'm trying to maximize get the most -- three best position to succeed. I would say this I think it's very ill conceived. Two -- to concede. Jon Lester struggling in game number one when you look at the second half of the season. Yeah I was up and -- I was uneven but in the second half the of the season since the all star break this guy has been. Great and we think he's got to especially when I got rushed to the last start against the yes he's -- price yes I served more than he pitched against price right I believe what -- just went up against me the two starts in the row the first big insurers are here at Fenway Park I was here for that game I thought it was the best Lester -- after the first inning when he just completely. Re gather himself and teachers are kept them in the game got Miguel Cabrera with the bases loaded in a big spot and I think it was his next start he goes out of Tampa and pitched against David Price and how pitched it and that was when the the division was still at stake here there was still something -- to play for for the -- term. There's been a long time he was their strategies that she's an okay. It's now time out tool another race yes it has been a long time well we Ashley wants to separate -- DNA right right red stripe on it after the 08 already alienated and ladies did and he has yes recent Ross start tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised honestly. Mayor Jon Lester Ross a little things don't look at the wanted to look like they're just got better numbers against against price -- who for five on the telecast sample -- got -- twice this year is caught -- eleven. In general the Airese grade what does that he got caught that struggle period out of a lot recently he needed to catch it all a lot. Recently needed to catch any of those games that mean that -- from watching David -- that he's come back the bat speed looks atrocious I mean I didn't know we have a decency to back you saw it about I watch him against some good pitchers in the day here insurers -- couple the -- associates that he just as you just looked behind against good pitchers specially guys who can throw good fastball. Do you even do you even want him out there that you want him yeah you're OK with sacrificing that back absolutely because of what he brings out just what he wants right everything I think that's that's why is going to be -- -- -- level with Lester and as we know you're Joseph Maddon told us. And I'm not a hero didn't score many runs. Supposedly then -- still reruns. About by the way can be shelved the idea that -- was off the charts great last night. Here's a lot of them are good here you know. I was not I don't know I don't know Cleveland -- do all -- -- well I don't know that -- on -- three horse that he made good -- right -- -- some pretty -- well no it's not -- -- people way he wasn't talking we've got a dominant -- was not what you think he was everything he needed to anybody he was pretty damn good and and it is ironic Cleveland brings into free -- big names in the offseason swisher and born as -- -- the guys came up with huge -- about Switzerland. They went -- with -- Swisher the senate that it. Those three swings moved. All brand listen exploded as -- walk up and -- construct new people literally just regular. -- don't know. That the alleged mistress to getting jealous sleazy lot better no question that I would the only way I'd go into -- right. I have no idea I have no idea poverty it's sort it I -- is that there's joke supposedly -- -- aren't there weren't worried about his broke PS he was broke for four last night he -- -- -- bleak images anything to -- situation here I mean for the real. Last night it was exactly what you should probably expected they didn't say they've done it they've done a great job of beaten teams that they should beatle years they've done a great job or lose against better teams. The -- all against that's over my. Her team right beat up the names up right and so you know what you're saying is that Tampa's one of the better to know what I'm sorry hey you don't know until I know it's true I thought I was gonna say I was gonna say that would loan agreement will make their point -- -- to move it never historically went. It was not a good job of beating up on those things they should -- struggle against the league teams. Which is to save their manager. You know get the most out of players how how Joseph Maddon get more out of his players that say -- -- Or Jim Leland or anybody gonna get you and I -- -- like Bobby Duval or Johnson. This could cut the federal gives it really managers who get the most out of their players he goes one album. Jim Leyland has another winter -- bad I guess. Is that that is what really thorough and does what what. John Ferrell gone out of this group gotten out of the screw pretty much everywhere everything has it right up. But that's sort. Who disagree with -- -- -- 97 games the question is what does he now do with them in a five game series and hopefully a couple of seven game series all I'm arrogant going to melt in the presence of Feinstein met you don't have any idea what to do I. I don't know it's funny we have with Ferrell I like John -- lot I think he's done a great job with there if a manager has a few different jobs in in in what his job description is right he's got. He's got to be able to handle the press and big stories the Ferrell has been. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- eight plus ten out of ten does everything you'd want this group loves each other they have beards and it's perfect. In terms of in game managing -- which is now the thing that is going to be up to him because all the other stuff is in the past there is no more scandal there is nothing -- to blow off the team already lost each other and having a good time. How do you rate him in terms of in game managing. Such a matter because we have heard this -- time and time at Grady -- in a 162. Game well he obviously -- watch T -- -- -- but second professional but in -- 162. Games Lou would you not agree that the number of a manager winning vs losing a game is like 234 maybe. How many times that present itself and a five game series. Probably not at all brought a lot of different like debatable things that John let let's say well I would never done at the but John Farrell did really says to me that it stands out even though I. Our goal is and I've always felt if you wanna criticized move -- to criticize before the results. You need to look at that say this is the wrong move right because. Anytime a manager pulls the manager is is is a great manager bad management based on how was bullpen does usually brings a performance -- you pulled Jon Lester and you bring in this out because of all run. Why did you pull of so so as long as -- consistent as long as you if for golfers to beat the magic carpet for gold slate. Right that you have been all year all whatever you've been doing all year Breslow at this hour if -- made it gives the eighth all by herself and gives it up you might shake yet that's not consistent. But if you're consistent that it's on the players to will perform. I do think that the manager is just at the bullpen does the job. It was a great goals does he get out of that anyone had great hope because of all but what an idiot I already do it. It's like it you got to decide before you see the result would you. -- and are -- similar thing and you're right about that especially with -- to believe -- -- -- take -- -- all that but in terms of some of the decision making -- pinch hitting -- bring in where the -- thing I think is driven me crazy recently he says now they did that he's done without that -- may not getting -- get that opportunity to -- in in a big spot against the -- -- -- late in the game -- I wanted to see earlier there's a good reason why wanna play a clip coming up here from Jonny Gomes who joined us now what earlier in the week. -- golf is that he had one point on Tuesday at that I think relate perfectly to this into Bogart's Stephen -- thing play for you next the roundtable continues here at Jerry grammys beat us here Lewis here -- Ali the Red -- road road to redemption roundtable here W media. -- you right now this is this is the biggest series as far as rivalries go. You know that this is a great place for us when on the road I haven't felt. You know this could -- on the field celebrating you know I know our record against him issues. Not too shiny but it's it's definitely a very good feeling so rating -- just. Shaken hands. You know in the middle of the field yours it's nice. That's rays pitcher Matt. Moore who you'll see tomorrow to -- evident here right here on WEEI. Go to get Jon Lester in game one Red Sox road to redemption roundtable. Continues from Jerry Remy is Mike salt Michael Holland -- Maloney. John Dennis always -- for about 1015 more minutes and that we will swap out -- John this time has gone how fast that. -- so fast for the last time you did a one hour show where you'd have to lead this is it. This time. This yeah the artist's artists and artists can that's what I'm I'm nervous I'm honored and humbled and intimidated to be in the presence of salt and holly. On Omaha trying to hang in our heart we're gonna Tories don't know and a few minutes -- to hand and -- and I don't. We should join -- Like they have made it up all yet you're -- -- we've already show that on as Michael would I don't know you you're not -- throwing up until. Yeah. We'd like to join in the last hour of yeah. Necessarily the first ever we could make it -- at 9 o'clock all right out. Tough guys absolutely I think we have that and is that -- don't worry both of young kids I did their Barnard that this that it. About the role what 157. You bear they get there are serious and we wanna spend much time on this what time does your alarm rate. What time you set your alarm or my kid is my alarm. 615 single paragraph. What time you -- your -- dogs and kids all three okay I'll get out here it's like yeah it's there and it's a dollar par three are necessary -- -- that you get up I do not set the alarm my daughter wakes me up about eight. Okay 08 -- -- I don't know she sleeps from 738 and I'm I'm. Salami sandwich -- -- and out of that and I time isn't right I need like eleven hours of sleep represent senator Barbara good with daughters who drives configured the right time. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- We -- talking about pitching hitting and whether or not -- should've had more of that experience throughout the year if you're going to use and not spot we talked to Johnny Gomes on Tuesday. He's learned he said to be very good pinch hitter this is what he's learned along the way. Some homework that's going to. Obviously who would you possibly pictures or what picture what he's bringing. From the all paying for you to get off the bench. What -- pictures that in the past what can see that -- going with that game obviously the situation. You know who who's that behind you know you might get that change it you know they got him out a broader base you know the guy on deck. So what what -- figure out that what -- you know a year pension and -- starts there you know -- -- -- start to get into the the homework got it. -- preparation of it kind of made things easier. That's why I want to see some Zander -- expansion because it sure doesn't sound like it's easy to just walk up there until you learn how to do it. It's complicated and if that doesn't go well on the big stage in Fenway Park on the big moment -- you really immediately -- to -- Tampa that's a ball. Do you wanna look at him wanting to see more of that I think it also look at this -- than you could say that. Nobody took like that role you know nobody stepped up who's written work and basically was the guy that we up. Pushed into seeing if he can do it or not. Nobody else was straight Britain get three and two thirds innings in September. It was terrible why is important on this roster why Britain we haven't seen Great Britain you know but -- like this urgency to win every game which you appreciate but at the same point. Yeah I don't see Webster I don't think what's his gut you know fastball command to be reliever. I don't draw -- TV can do it I hate to -- Taylor -- or eight years but are we not talk about like eighth inning by committee here with eleven pitchers. Basically yeah. I think they can you can't I can't speak out and. Don't you know you're welcome I'm glad he had that urges you to win every game because the can with what they've finished two games in front of Oakland -- for the top spot until he had done that. Maybe we're not talking about home field advantage throughout the playoffs they actually turns out. -- they needed to do it. And it was a story of that you're looking at about a week and a half before the season was over is about whenever that the Red Sox clinched let. This thing is not over yet it was kind of like an under reported things until late in the season but he had his -- -- it. Tired I don't know it tells you sit digital. I still use this guy. And block the sixty or six release that a lot he felt like when he had to win the only put the guys and he trusted about a post 456. Of the story we knew right safe. 4567 exam does run lead rather -- Go with the guys and there was no confidence innings you know there are also was a different cup of coffee you know Webster you never saw which -- again. Penalty fastball command betrayed Britain way to go -- of the -- ball -- the Matt Bourne he can be on this roster. Probably probably go over towards career vs Camp David hastily thrown outward up but I just the David -- Morgan there's a -- well whoop Norton does a pitcher vs whose Great Britain threat but -- Britain -- the guy who was helped them get had a really big jams in July before the trade -- here and it felt like he just lost confidence in him and he'd ever gonna get much of a chance to get it back look. For me that the one name is -- and that's when I keep coming back to where -- the opportunities. For a kid did you keep saying it or are we keep hearing how he's specifically that it's the defense that everybody's worried about -- has not having it be reason -- not result in defense talk let me explain this to you like your five Euro area we're not gonna see what Jackie Bradley junior he's off the roster -- see -- -- generally lose this jag for this guy. Did not confident in -- and I'm not talking about Jackie Bradley junior I know I don't dump the roster -- -- artist it's not going to be what Jolene -- -- one reason the guy who he's -- position he plays. It left -- -- and you cannot under way already know what they're gonna do I think they should. -- charge and said this morning he is a rock he is our rock at shortstop David served. Yes and John -- John -- has told us he would not necessarily do with the same way he did a couple weeks ago in a big spot he's not necessarily let the kid if he's gonna be crazier in the loss in the -- postseason spot as a regular season. You know what if you really registered why -- really not I don't know listen blue blue dogs up earlier we go oh I'd like. Claudia 53. Minutes the I don't know how does that he's given his Niger -- we haven't we haven't alcohol does not allow our. There's days giving -- hour -- hour two hours you are usually aren't. It's not for everybody get out of here let out. What we talked earlier about him managing to be consistent. John Ferrell brought up the point that maybe do some things differently -- the post season but how you balance that certain guys say you didn't like this in a regular season. Now it's the post season. And what I was pinch hitting before and -- -- -- bit different now do they do think he will you think he'll do something different now seems. Now they're gonna do the same thing that got I hate them because we're doing the same thing that got your celebration but it leads to do that I -- but they're not gonna do -- that little sign warning -- will do what different what we did. Well and what got us to this number of wins into this point that the best record baseball we will continue its we'll continue to be aggressive on the base pass was exempt. All but job to a friendly -- artist or maybe it was -- up the that is. You'll see more you'll see more out of the bullpen. That you did before -- -- -- -- or article fine now I think you want to -- agreed noting how they'll definitely pick one up for a four say yes I'm gonna save shakes out you know great pair needed a jewel Laura last -- we. That's why the seventh eighth ninth is three guys and get all it is right dissolve Rezko mess up and Koji ready to go to start the eighth maybe you give somebody hitter atop the eighth. But the guy gets on its gonna be Koji time. And if you can keep -- -- out of that mix that sounds good to me to with a much -- -- -- the board is Breslow and especially you -- I -- -- 56 out -- if you have -- do it and we'll see what it does withdrew in the late innings if he comes up and some of those big spots John. Lou thank you very much your cowboys' -- we will. As you actually -- your Saturday yes yeah toy show on Saturday announcing them -- I'll see you Monday at that it. OK with it didn't immediately come -- and Obama enjoys Celeste it's called across you don't that is. No -- did admitted to totally fake. Yeah last -- I. Don't motel. -- no don't don't drive at the moment you know who. No. Funeral gentlemen thank you very much whether it exists you with -- -- -- and I'll be able over high heat team that is coming up so freely -- the Red -- road to redemption roundtable continues from Jerry Remy here WB.