Jul 24, 2013|
Buster Olney joins Lou and Alex Speier as the trade deadline approaches. Buster says Peavy is a logical option for the Red Sox but that Cherington would have to give up a lot.
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Art so put the Red Sox and who better to talk to than a guy that talks to everybody across the league. We bring in buster all the from ESPN. Truck debate GT forty LT was speeds at ten times faster than three GAT and T rethink. Possible -- there you are on with Alex Alex and -- Maloney aired out a bust let me ask -- -- here because we start talking about people that are available. I like the important for for Brandon Jacobs do you police he would Garza -- Rangers gave up when he she with the Orioles gave up -- rent -- -- K rod. Is that the norm is that the asking price going forward. Yeah at the seller's market no question about it and you hear that from team didn't just not a lot of players out there there's not that much talent out there at that Jayson stark brother -- -- -- -- for us yesterday. And you know you hear and I mean for me to guys right now on the marketing makes absolutely the most that's the reds that -- Jake Peavy to the white cuts his feet. He had a great year last year 219 innings he demonstrated that he's healthy he would on the disabled list but it was a broken and it wasn't like it was shoulder elbow issue. He had a good outing with Bob Hamlin -- psyched out on Saturday against the Braves last week and and so that makes sense. But to me and asking prices off the charts I can't tell you exactly what. They may have -- the Red Sox board. But -- everyone's and it's really high and so in that regard I think you'd do against pause. I do you think that the Red Sox. Need to add and I think -- they've got a good upstart. And have enough depth in their farm system the way the equation it is just being good enough to invest in. Yeah yeah if you're overpaying a little bit I think it's something that they needed to you because when you look at the staff. There are -- there and I mean you guys know better -- -- -- -- there everyday you're seeing it. And seeing the rate come on like gangbusters he's seen the Orioles start to put it together. And you're looking at the rest the American League. And and they start to think about what would your response -- what would your reaction be if there's you know the Red Sox squandered this great start and I and I do think that this is this situation where. That I think about even if it's overpaying make an ideal. With regards to peavy buster do you see him we we've been kind of back and forth about this would it be safe to assume that his hall of the -- for him. -- -- the way Texas that you would be greater than what the Cubs in the considerable amount that the Cubs discomfort Garza who's a rental. Absolutely and I look at -- -- -- -- just think that you know there are a lot of people thinking that the Cubs -- did well in that deal. You know a lot of when he talked to individual -- they think that Michael. He is not really worth that much it it's overstated how much the Cubs god. That Michael has so many at such a high swing administration 95 strikeouts. In 280 at bats. In the 24 years old -- that 21. I think it. You know -- and at least it -- I've spoken with the perception of what the Cubs got in terms of how it's being digested publicly vs what teams are talented privately are a little bit different but there's no question out there would be Red Sox would have to give -- more. These people under control for one more year fourteen and a half million dollars. And exactly where the you know a big market team told me that unfortunately that Red Sox the Yankees the Rangers. Fourteen -- million dollars for number two number three type starter. Is good value and that's what he's salary next year so absolutely dead the price tag would be higher than what. What the Cubs got. Yes I think it is good fit because on the -- the starting pitching on the ticket hit a minor league system -- want the guy for another year which brings it to my name's. Ervin Santana who's a free -- the end of the year and Bud Norris and everybody just expects. That did the Astros will sell on what you here with those two -- -- I literally got the phone with someone who knows that the -- situation you know when you guys called over and what I was told that person is. The Royals are readied itself yet and if someone's gonna trade for Santana. They're gonna have to absolutely blow them away yeah I mean you know we can sit here and look at their situation they they have teams got their -- say that's crazy -- not really -- it. All remember that should organizations like the Pirates this day where their fan base is clamoring. For them to win and Chris -- them to trade off Santana in July waved the white flag in July. That's a hard thing for them to do so the price for a team like the Red Sox -- bitchy would be astronomical. And the thing I hear about Bud Norris a lot from rival value Raiders did you know -- Decent number four number five but deeply committed -- offensive division the fact that they think he's essentially two pitch pitcher. That becomes the major problem and I think he's gonna fall into the category of yeah okay he is serviceable veteran but maybe not the American League east. So we've seen at this point the Brewers the Cubs the White Sox all clearly have ventured into the selling market. Who else do you see entering into that into into that fray or who's kind of on the fence you you put Kansas City in that group obviously. Who else committed by July 31 certainly helped to put the market which will clearly. It to me if you're a team like the Red Sox are concerned about the prices that are going right now you wait for -- to be more sellers so that you can find a more acceptable price when there's more supply. A Padre. Are out there and I can't you know tell you necessarily that you know -- -- would have I think -- Greg Anderson is a guy makes a lot of sense. For the Red Sox in terms of being inept -- bullpen option in by the way. I'm a 100% convinced that part of the reason why the Orioles -- a little bit on K rod is to keep away -- the Red Sox. Because they know that the Red Sox. Have a need there in the bullpen and they know the -- that could be looking around. And I think that's part of the reason why they jumped on them they feel like you know what they do is not a lot of options out there. You know we -- division by division -- especially here Seattle I don't think they're close -- playing well. They're coming back into relevance in -- lot like the Royals is trying to send a message that there is that they can stay in the race. I think the Mets absolutely would be out there but that you guys -- talked about Bob price tag for a guy like Bobby part now. He's really hide I think that the Phillies fell into really high in and that this feeling around baseball bat Papelbon is I mean he is his stock is. Plummeting in terms of what people you know how to do -- performance. I'm. You know when you look at. I'm just in my mind sort of running three teams to the Angels didn't. The Angels roster because it because. Well look at the Angels you know as far as his -- -- -- look at a look at a guy like Scott Downs final year of his deal not -- qualify and they still feel they got a shot. Well and on top of that they have so much money invested they're like that's the poker player that you know -- put all the money in the end and watch into the middle of a pile. And they can't either not in a position where they can tell the fans in July. Okay we were blown out but the white flag it might make sense if it were strata Matta came to an open you and I replying. But I think the whole thing is we really have to remember about these guys selling tickets. I -- like the Orioles in 96. Period -- their owner of pat Gillick was general manager pat Gillick and had a lead straight to David Wells and Bobby have been here. And they were gonna get decent haul and Peter Angelos that they didn't kill big deals because he's feeling like you know what it's and that really bad message to the fans. And they want to make it play out this year and I think that's helped it's crazy that he's from the outside looking in when you look at the Angels you look at the Royals. That's how ownership and the Phillies that ownership tend to look at these things that you cannot tell people potential customers. You can't you have no reason to buy tickets the last two months. So I guess it's worth asking just as an over as an overview of the L east who right now do you see barring any further moves from the five teams the division. How do you see how do you see the talent level in the division stacking up right now. Race number one Orioles number two I mean just because I think the Orioles won before the season started turning the Yankees that. Oreo the rays number one did it in the American League in my mind Orioles the number two. Reds got the number three because they're concerned about the pitching staff and you know how much of that manifests itself locally buckled comebacks. One question to be -- add a lot. By a reevaluation of the other teams especially advance gets it where you are and it is our hold up physically they received some aggression into Dallas. That's all the -- didn't -- you -- on a record pace for him in terms of appearances in his age. That's the question mark and give it all the other injuries that they've suffered this year in the bullpen. I think that's what everybody wonders about Boston and the Yankees I mean I'd bet you know they're not close the other teams in terms of what they can do I personally think it's. Unbelievable that it -- stayed in the conversation. When you watch the three games against the reds suck but we can wonder how the heck they didn't get swept. A bush -- I don't talk impassable by Genesis and everything went down prime brawn and the rumors you hear about Alex Rodriguez and and we met him before how difficult the appeal process would be how long that would take twenty different appeals will Ryan brunt. Is not going to appeal here -- Iraq probably will. You mentioned a -- those free agents in Peralta in proves. Mean they could come out this report and fine at the only have 878 repeals it actually get done with these guys might accept it right now. Yeah I -- no -- I didn't for Peralta for Nelson Cruz there's absolutely clear motive. To accept the best deal possible as soon as possible because that they accept the deal it's in the next two weeks and I think it's gonna happen. And they conservative suspension and come back to and have a clean -- is that going to free agency or is calling the plays they're gonna have. It would interest in the it and you know -- I'm glad that I watch The Sopranos. In all the years did did he gives me some insight and I was gonna work out. It feels like that and each guy to take the plea bargain it week in the -- -- of the guys to follow them. So Alex Rodriguez is the last guy and -- in this situation to accept the deal. He's gonna get the worst deal because Major League Baseball gonna have all this corroborating evidence from all these other cases. Stepped up potentially before arbitrator is Alex didn't -- it didn't. -- wind up appealing his case. LeBron gets 65 in the playoffs just team isn't and I thought it should have been longer but hey it is what it is the rest the year in the playoffs. I have a problem -- I think if you if they're gonna put -- Alter and Nelson in that same class the same. Sick same exact suspension is Ryan brawn and it to me wanna give -- 2530 games they served their time they come back in September if they want. Yeah I think that -- can -- I don't think -- and you know not having been in the room for not knowing the details those. You know what Nelson Cruz and Peralta had to them I think it's going to be. I'd different level penalty for them I do think it's going to be between curator fifteen. Because I think when Bryant case it was lying in the past that got him the the extra fifteen games on the fifty so I think it would be less. Did you see a realistic scenario in which there reporters out third Major League Baseball could seek a lifetime ban about Rodriguez do you think that that would be. Even feasible. I would be surprised if they started. Almost to the point no leverage you know it's just like any negotiations -- -- and negotiate down. And you know I think it would be tough for them given the fact that you -- for baseball and Allen of the Cardinals at three strikes you're out. Where they couldn't he can't beat port arbitrator didn't get any. One strike and it's a lifetime and I and that's why they did that it's more about negotiations again I don't. I don't have the information in front of me that they have and they know how strong their cases. And I do from everything you hear the Euro Lotto players to their case against Alex Rodriguez because. There have been so many times -- -- -- and be interviewed him about PD stuff. And who knows maybe Tony brought brought to them whole maps. Information and in which you know can basically indicates a Major League Baseball coach Rodriguez -- to them repeatedly. Blockbuster appreciate your time -- be an enjoyable week and will that chip you next week. Mean are you guys of course roster only has brought to you by. Toyota of national visit all the new Toyota national megaplex and see the hot deals during the summer sell off on going on right now. And of course they RS restoration specialist -- Cole's base we read back we're gonna get into. As he mentioned -- it is our. 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