Aug 17, 2014|
In the final segment, Jim and Pete discuss multiple preseason games and players that are on their radar early on. They also discuss how to take an overall look at the draft board in your league.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
Welcome back to Tennessee football our Jim Hackett Pete Davidson from -- dot com. Talking fantasy football here in week two of the pre season in the first two segments we talked a lot. About the patriots Eagles teams in the game I should say in the -- and football implication and just want. Well you know what they did practice against each other -- weeks on golf and I went to federal death if that's the campus know how to get yeah it was a double letter but out. Let's play today. But I don't ballot check out you need to do that but there is I mean look at this 53 people on the roster numbers ninety's so is this funny players and -- -- -- the tablets would run out of battery that's right that's right. But anyway -- tablets against -- and I know I saw them on TV it's just get over it already. But. I mean that's gonna happen like three years -- -- it's crazy. They -- so a lot of action Friday night to cover and dumb and we also you know going into last break we're talking about -- article drafting in reverse. And that whole perspective of how to look for the values in your draft you're gonna spend most of the time there. But I do wanna want just bounced back to Henry Jozy we talked about a running back on the Philadelphia Eagles last segment. On because we've actually got some interesting content moving forward that one dude have you talk about a little bit -- as a root for as a relates the patriots in the Eagles in the practicing they just did this past week. Yeah and you know obviously was particularly painful for -- it -- -- -- sent him a pass from Mark Sanchez. You know who's been the Bane of my football for years and apparently he's gonna continue to make -- happy. It was good to see him last night when he threw the pick on the guy remember that guy. Yet that that that's something -- before on. But yeah next week we we are hoping to have mark frank we need to beat writer. On the show this week we couldn't get he's playing. So he couldn't join us but yet next week we'll have mark on the show and it's gonna be -- right to have because obviously you know -- has this thing covered. Which Christopher price -- Great beat writers here in new coverage that our perspective exactly but -- I think you'll be adjusting to have more -- he's Marty to meet them -- -- It would be it'll be itching to have a month as well that need to be right perspective of that whole Chip Kelly ballot check -- practice thing I think -- -- -- Our let's go. Little bit more of the Friday action there a couple of games. Played last night -- some that are speak a little bit more loudly than others and what comes to mind right at the top. Is Seattle and San Diego because. In -- Seattle they're the defending champions yes but. There's a lot -- Happening there and you know it's been. Very Wyatt who wildly and widely reported. About the camp battle between Crist and Michael and Robert turbine turban look good last. It ignite. Yeah I mean. You know like I gonna have to disagree with you I don't think it has been reported its camp battle I think you and I sort of see it as camp atom bomb but is it this is the thing that's already been sort of like Christine Michael wins this thing by default. -- -- Jim you know there's not many bigger Christine Michael fans out there than yours truly you're you're to a new way ahead of it vulnerable on the -- that mean we pre draft before -- was ever on Seattle early this guy's amazing. But he does have their ability concerns he said multiple major injuries. People tend to just sort of brushed that aside I don't think -- can. And in the turbine -- I mean let's face Robert turns it back one -- one other thing to point out about Michael last night but the ball on the ground he did and and you know obviously that's not gonna help you. Get full control of the job you know theoretically in the event of a Marshawn Lynch injuries and yet you know. As much as we think turbine is probably the -- to -- if you wanna you know get an insurance policy Marshawn Lynch. I don't know that he would be necessarily an RT one has some indicate right out of the gate and you can I think -- would have a sizable role. Fortunately it was out of picture and I think -- -- while -- he's he's a big back with with multiple skills. Yes I mean you can't just brushed him aside like -- unison with BenJarvus green Ellis and these are very different players but you know you can't just. Russian someplace good football player. -- is there and he will be involved in some way anyone's and -- -- -- a lot of the things to glean from the Seattle and down -- game last night how could Russell re look brilliant. It's it's he just keeps getting better. I sort of got a super lowering -- him better in an average draft position that we remember what that was like right heck yeah winning Super Eagles quarterback -- -- -- -- -- yeah exactly it's a good feeling it is in you know in the thing with Russell Wilson's league right now he's ranked. You can get him as a great value in in a draft if you do it correctly. Now on a month or so ago we pointed out the Russell Wilson's GDP which was like up in the won -- was just ludicrous it's just pure lunacy. -- it is moving up and I think off of that last week it'll move up a little bit more but he still going to be about Syria it's. Very strange the way he gets -- traps it's it's odd. Yeah and so they look at -- do you view the Smart ones sit back some -- Foreman when you lead with him that you -- back and think it's a Smart strategy you sit back there you wait for everybody -- -- quarterback and you're still -- be staring either Russell Wilson Tony -- Jay Cutler robbery you're content. These guys have yet to -- you separate. -- -- them let's move to another game unless there's someone -- some people that you want to. Highlight but you there was an action in the saints titans game to. And I just -- to sort out their TP you've been tooting the horn of one young Justin hunter for awhile expecting his break out. -- them and happened. It kicked he broke up to -- are absolutely gosh yeah we've. For leagues I was looking to steal you and Justin to calm down a little cash effect but perhaps a little small ankle -- -- keep you out one week he was huge last night. Yet caught a couple scores -- from locker caller from met burger ought to pass. That's left of paper trail -- oh -- Not to steal a line from Duchscherer but that was who sacked -- -- and throw a biscuit and though you know now he had a couple bad moments of that game. Jake Locker you'd better get your act together side because Ben Berger is gonna take your cookies quote poll we mole I mean that guy's got a cannon. And hunter. You know he -- is he flashed his red zone chops -- its first touchdown which was four yarder and then he flaps his ability to. Use those wheels and -- -- got size speed jumping ability. He really was Johnny Bravo we were kidding -- -- in office the suit he does that the student four catches a 111 yards and that just tells you. He did fly. What anyone who was on the big play but I mean it's occupied OT so I had just an honor. No longer a sleeper I think. But at least we are literally. Yeah yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on last night Shonn Greene tweaked -- and generally that's obviously very significant fancy tank as it. It it takes bishops -- stock and obviously pushes it up a little bit if that's any kind of continuing thing. And even if green comes back healthy it's gonna give -- more snaps more looks more action with the first team it'll it'll help speed is progress along. Another thing I saw which which ties in the drafting in reverse. This guy made move into that undrafted but we want you to consider him column Jimmy Claussen. You know -- a guy that he's one of the guys we sort of missed done. If you will yeah in the past -- -- you know we were fairly high -- costly came out we yankees you know pretty good talent. And he looked like he let it back up in Chicago. And we also what mr. accounted. You know as the backup for the bears last year we Cutler went out the -- can -- it should be Costin you know let's keep an eye on him if he wins that backup. And you played fourteen -- sixteen team league yeah. And you know. -- senior bye week replacement for yours if you had Jay Cutler but perhaps the best way to back up Jay Cutler. For injury purposes could you know could looking Jimmy Claussen who by the way will be -- you know large league you can get them. You know for nothing exactly you can get it at the draft -- necessarily you know if you know if you know once -- -- what's Jay -- by clears you take your medium QB to dump them for for closet because now you're locked into that -- starter. And all the -- points that player puts up a weekly basis. Great point what else from Friday night -- anything that you wanna hit before he segued into drafting a reverse. Derek -- looks like he's better at a match job already yes and the raiders lions game. Bad news for shot good news for the raiders perhaps bad news for Clark is not a off I want to play sixty games by -- generator line this year but it it I don't know how long. You know they're going to be able to keep him out of the mix at this point you know. -- this -- they've got a lot of moving parts like him he had to -- a lot of moving parts over the raiders you know and then it's at every position I mean running back. You've -- in India there's injuries -- all over that offensive particularly in the backfield with. Jones-Drew and attract me no need to go you know too deep there that's a well known about that and the receiver position it feels like there's a hundred. Yeah at times settlement -- that's the thing they sort of have that situation the rams have where we don't hate any of the raiders receivers but and they're not gonna get enough of a road America workable rather than -- -- -- that. That you know that that tight relationship with the quarterback that you get getting more snaps more looks. And it goes for practices well. So yeah it's an issue in you know Derek -- I'm a big fan I think he's a guy should go to the first from. The NFL draft we think he's got incredible talent. We do you think it's gonna help him if he comes out of that spread offense and I hope you're Carstens as long as possible because I think he's got a chance to be related quarterback. And the readers have -- -- an office that can set a quarterback. Back yet. But not moving on and you know for anybody who wants scooter wrote about Beckham goes to the wrote about what you find in the top toolbar we got an extensive scouting report on their car. -- you -- it's you know it's a note -- player. Golden Tate -- honestly it's sort of touched down yet as you I've spoken nine. He could break out he's -- he's been in front of you strive for bring guns in the right offense he's got a quarterback who's going to look forum. He's got mega drawn on the other side like lord you know we just lining up on the field with him at that that smells of opportunity to me. Aria yeah -- difficulty stays healthy and put. -- a better numbers than ever put up before. And you mentioned Jimmy Graham before yeah looks healthy looks great but Jamie. You know the rule about the can -- Steve he's addicted to it he had Sean Payton was not happy -- don't -- after the Nebraska like the first one. Has the -- when he was not happy I think you said something to Jimmy. -- I mean you given like 30000 dollars in fines here it just to make some kind of point. You know in this economy I don't know if you would be that flippant with money -- you can afford it or not so it's not message so hopefully this is not that the organs here at the regular season from Jimmy Graham does. And the regular season. It's sort actively Canadian right that so hopefully that's hopefully that was a one week protest on his part he's not gonna be giving his team fifteen yard penalties and kick offs. Every -- scores. This could score twenty times self respect applies the number one died and in cash and and speaking of office and them. Strange behavior. -- Foster. Yeah have you seen you have some quotes and some he he's part football player part played out yeah. That's well said with a -- -- I mean I. Obviously is a guy whose talent you have to respect and you know he's already a guy -- tough to figure in draft rights got the injury history and now he's got you know sort of -- back a situation where we're not sure how much to trust. You know crimes or or or Alfred. I love you blue. Yeah his his last two handcuffs are gone right Dennis Johnson and -- guaranteed obviously is -- in Cleveland and there is an excellent. They cut Andre Brown right it was like a running back bloodletting. Easton bill O'Brien obviously not happy with what's going on there so far. He -- is getting more first team reps own. Things look a little odd in Houston that might just be built Brian you know no nonsense is all business getting things done kind of guy he is snappy. Yeah or it might be -- head coach going what do we. Do these guys stay. So it after or you'll see how that plays out the Houston right now I think is the situation watch from top to bottom. And Foster you know it's funny these quotes make me like him. You know I'd like to see players Smart who's thinking -- And that's what I excellence on Twitter. -- lost yet egos mandatory in my profession. And actually things out like that. But he says he -- -- that's where in my profession but were never taught how to turn off that's prefer to lose he doesn't say it's off now. I gave myself to me which means TU. But that's. Who does it hurts the law. That's -- -- at a circular and deep and look for it frankly Mike Green just pulled it straight I don't know -- said I don't know if that helps of his average draft position and not well it's just think that's what I'm wondering the other thing everybody's uncle foster's again everybody's card yet entities heart. This is a guy who's thinking. Deep thoughts yet but -- deep thought something we want from an and it felt -- back to the pre season I want them focused you know yeah. Not to mention he's answering every single question from the media -- I just wouldn't be good team that's what you better teammate. I don't know -- someone. Upstairs area Foster he's either about to break out these things you've never seen. Or or it's like that Bill Parcells they were certain veterans get to a point. With it certainly made a lot of money in the starts -- game different and I'm wondering if if if Foster moved into that territory were real. Focused. There's a certain you know football players it was certainly don't anymore they don't enjoy the entry piece of meat anymore. I'm wondering if he's to that point as I say this gives me pause. And the story got it right. Quite frankly getting the deck is because some of our listeners might not understand why he's a big name with a big resonant. Yeah they'll look all due respect to various Foster that's great career but let's face -- -- the guy who had epidural because his -- last year you know shut down and play this year. -- hamstring injuries. On the back situations so you know -- had extremely. Absurd ridiculous seasons in terms hole. It carries touches. This guy -- -- contacts so. I worry. About him being able to take the pounding plain and simple and now I worry a little bit of how much does this place he's hurt. He started to straight music guy where you know what on. -- as you're talking you know looking into my mind is Ricky Williams. And I'm wondering about the the the commitment. Well will -- case speaks towards the mystery of exceptional commitment but yet yet -- -- that we currently -- yeah yeah and and well he fell in love you know with the duke which -- tonight you know. So in other Ricky was on all other. Although it was a philosophical planes I can see the connection right but you know fosters a guy who goes in the first round a lot of time. There's just know that there's no glamorous first. We got in the twenties and he really has to slip from -- consider him. I would also have on the letting other people figured out yet actually he's not get such as he is effectively off my port yeah because I -- market in the third fourth. So you know. I want someone else to take EMI drafted have to do going a direction that I don't like to draft him around like receiver and quarterback and tight end and he. Really early if he was there as a safety net maybe but. I don't think you will not going to be and so there's there's points so you know so we hit that topic one of the which talk about just so we forget. Charles Sams which -- earlier big injury yes you know I -- -- broken ankle and you know looking at a three month roughly. Recovery operation it was rookie year. He's definitely not somebody to draft roughly 800% off -- -- me be. Maybe he could come back towards the end of the year and become a guy wire I'm -- Tampa probably just. Decides to free up the roster space but that's that's actually I would think here in the second week of the -- that your right so so what to do here for fantasy footballers -- the dust off Bobby Iranian Mike James yeah. Right that's the thing. And the good news it's just it's good for -- purposes it's good football players especially James. It's potentially. Strong power runner. Obviously -- -- James had injuries last year with the -- but now. So the Tampa backfield. Now you have to obviously look at -- mart -- or solidity and gets a bump I would think definitely it's above. Maybe even if he's not a -- I think now more willing to draft yeah you know -- -- key in the same spot might order up a spotter to but now -- -- take him -- hoping someone else takes that risk. That we talked about that podcast he was one of the guys. Now I was a little hesitant about an outside and right right -- right yeah I mean he's obviously -- a Smart guy I. Really like as far as talent that your real time Doug Martin as a rookie. And Ohio and last year he got knocked out the entry. -- So yes it -- definitely is a guy now I think to. He's been slipping into the third round draft out of that you can see that anymore. Now I would agree our let's get into. Your article on drafting -- reverse which is available -- dot com right now. The first segment of rise so that it's that part one of four parts yours yet and part one is subtitled. The undrafted about what part she's going up today so. Great do they -- -- -- -- that dynamite so the undrafted these are players that. Art being drafted as deeply as 264. Players deep in -- in my right Pete. -- basically what we did is in. In the past week we made the cut off. 240 -- and what that represents just so people understand is if you're in -- a twelve team league roster twenty players which. For united sort of the standard for fantasy football or what you and I like to play yet on in leagues like that address 240 people so. From. Our old standards to forty anybody who had an ADP to 41 or higher technically just isn't getting drafted. It mostly right but because of and it felt hands. And other bigger leagues and dynasty formats were seen deeper -- eighteen now so we've actually moved it up to sixty force and now. If you meet people in the in in the column that report put up you either have -- -- DP. Right in -- drafted at all or you have one that's at 265 -- OK so hopefully that makes sense for people. Anderson talent here. That's the point of the article right that the fact that you've got guys who is this good who aren't getting taken. And look I'm sure that the next couple weeks some of these guys will be moving up. I think archer just office first game -- archer yeah who is you know a favor of -- on the shares up paper rookies. I think he's being largely disregarded because of the state I think I know why though. -- He's a shrimp are. It's art I mean for what what are you saying you you think are we to -- up. It will not altitude Heineman just like I had some concerns I mean you know right. Is a big guy. So does that look I I see the talent I'd be devastated the cultured nurtured right. I see the talent and I know your high on him and I like them too I'm just a little worry it's only to take the floor -- on well. You know. Obviously his size is what caused him to slip into the third round a case of I think. You know this but the anti size fives whatever you call it's already baked into its third round. Track position in the NFL draft I also think the fact that you know everybody was I think. It's sort of an overreaction in the other direction after what happened with him on Austin last year look at that happens to your theories don't say yeah I think I think if Austin wasn't. On some level of Boston in overall last year and he runs we -- sort -- people yet. On the demeanor is not talented you just don't deliver expectations and it doesn't mean he's knocking over performed this year and a lot of people now -- in Austin dog I wouldn't go that far and keep the guys sleeper. But you know I think. Orchard definitely has paid a little bit of a price for what went wrong with him on Austin. And quite honestly -- -- football oh he has better instincts he plays the game a little bit more gusto in my opinion. And I you know I just think he's. The better football player and -- on Austin and you know we watched a ton of film on this case. He is extremely personal loans outstanding vision he's got speed. That is just off the charts he's half and you know he's he's got his hands are developing. So this guy is hybrid weapon. The highest order we don't see him as twenty carry running back so you know the size concerns. -- relate to. Volumes -- now is is he a guy that you want -- -- -- -- when he comes and now looking out now it's not but he's also a guy if you get the ball. Six times. She could go -- always on the right team to the Steelers have a history. Of -- getting guys like this that are very personally can move around you Randle -- comes to mind the -- Stewart comes to mind. You know there's there's -- line that I brought up before. Happy days when rich is getting you know picked on by the local street -- -- -- and you know missed you know mr. -- says -- just walk away. And it's just like or what if they went to follow. The backup app after app at and it's just necessities to Connecticut who has followed but he has no -- -- the Connecticut to catch you up -- -- -- -- You know as. I think you know. Tree -- is the kind of guy where. He's gonna catch you. Live with it -- -- he's not just get that's going to be a tease he he's the kind of guys gonna take the top off the defense he's the kind of guys gonna take the corner and take and go the distance. And you know and and the Steelers -- the kind of of the kind of offense. They don't mess around and and you've already got your hands full play in the steelers' right yeah they've they've got small guys on the outside and why. With with brown and with weak and we got people don't realize -- -- -- how good he -- -- right so they've got their small on the outside but they've got a lot of atlantis' him. And other bringing these huge. Handed ball running backs right use -- -- Levy on bella to cut and they give him arrestor -- Garrett blunt yeah. So we it's it's blunt force trauma the running game right nobody can Duchscherer rights of the Steelers are gonna. Amber you up to gut the gonna challenge you -- atlases and still on the outside. And then they're gonna bring entry -- satellite player powered defense disposed to account for tree archer went -- got their hands full. And again it now look at your quarterback. You're gonna quarterback that's hard to knock that have very athletic he's just tough as nails out right -- so -- they've got the ability to keep plays alive. They've got the building out -- mix their backfield up with guys who can knock you over and guys who you can't touch so it's. I tell you what you know Todd Haley were not the biggest transit Todd -- is an offensive coordinator right. You know tapers get a handle pal -- and fast -- extremely elegant censure right -- it but look let's get let's give some credit where credit is due Haley did a better job last year. That offense definitely. You know picked up some steam. -- archer keep it and -- you know if you go back and look at -- history he's tried some of these smaller players for yeah most recently with Dexter McCluster. Now he's had trouble making it work. You know I think archer might be that guy or works. Interest and rights of this couple we don't have a lot of time he's an exceptional athlete he is electric if if anybody was in that -- does this. We're not a project shall I this this this show has not seen tree archer play go to roto -- Go to on the top toolbar the wrote about and read the scouting report. That's this guy's a special talent and at and you're actually erection is small and his injury risk and that's why we're not telling needed to draft this guy. You know in the middle you're draft later late round value sure exactly this is the whole point with this and again in this article is that tree -- -- -- at all. There's no draft that I mean -- this year. Marjorie -- don't support in the drafts over the suspect that good to know. Few seconds left and wanna just a tease some of the names that are on the undrafted article Cody -- -- number with the Broncos that's a big. Marlon Brown receiver -- whenever I think Cody -- should move up but yes -- Latimer is a guy we don't like code Latimer would love Cody -- is on the problems right and the fact that he's now Peyton Manning offense. Cash. I mean if if you get one injury. Cody -- -- if there's an injury to any of the people ahead in the depth chart he will be a household name a couple weeks awesome in coming up at. -- -- is the second installment of drafting reversed look for that they'll be up later today. And that's a wrap -- it's the Tennessee football hour here it features the conversation between you and I Pete Davidson the chief Tennessee football writer for Audubon dot com thanks so much.