Jul 23, 2014|
With the non-waiver trade deadline a mere 8 days away, Buster talks about the market for guys like Cliff Lee, Jake Peavy, Koji Uehara, and the injuries Dustin Pedroia might be dealing with.
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Luster how Loria -- offer coming on to join us again this week. I'm doing great epic countdown clock or eight days ago but. Yeah it is to start Cole Hamels or is that off the table now buster. Well at -- You know it's -- -- on and hey look at that that and he'd tell me that they've essentially been told by the Phillies -- not available. You Ruben Amaro the general managers command said look there's no untouchables on this organization. Will listen to anything. I think it's probably depend on and I know how you're interpreting the statement because. Other teams feel like the Phillies when they make trades. That they're not in touch with -- reality. -- -- You know they have a player -- -- -- money and they essentially want the other team to. You know take on most of the money all the money and at the same -- give up top prospects and other team their their mindset is. Look wait -- second. There will will take on the money -- to take on most money and then we won't deviate high end prospects. Or we'll go the other way you guys keep the money will give a little better prospects but you're not going to a bowl and they feel like the trading with the Phillies you really complicated. And he didn't go through and look at. The options for the players involved you know Jonathan Papelbon. Cliff Lee with a twelve and a half million dollar option for 2016. On down the line Marlon Byrd with a vesting option -- round with a vesting option Papelbon with a vesting option. They have more crazy options than any of the team and they really mitigate the value of the players that complicate. The trade process because all that money and potential money yet to be -- it. But someone not losing to run for the Sox -- is complicated bench -- mean. Obviously they're two way maybe you would hear more about Koji and Andrew Miller but even hitting to a quarter what does that do for guys like Jake Peavy even a Johnny Gomes. Well I think -- they have enough gap. Where Decoud do you know serve all pitchers they could say look we're still trying to compete this year. And at the same time we can begin to turn over the roster a little bit like for example. -- Matt Cain going down with the Giants this week and being placed on disabled list the Giants really have no idea what they're gonna get out of it and -- here. Because he's getting inflammation of the elbow and reportedly he's got bone chips and the double. We noted peavy -- the past relationship with Bruce -- you from the San Diego Padres. He'd be a great fit there. And that Red Sox clearly have internal options where if they trade -- The lead -- that would make it you know could have other guys -- and now. You know what I've heard is is that. The reason why you deal with the Cardinals didn't happen was because the expectations -- the two sides are different the Cardinals. Basically we're telling them look we'll take on the salary but we're not gonna give me any anything in the way of a prospect with a Red Sox were hoping for something a little bit more. I tend to think that the Giants to be a little bit more aggressive. If they see good -- -- -- can you guys -- there are so he's so that is three starts before last night were better in nineteen strikeouts in nineteen innings. So maybe -- he would be the guy. That I think they can move and I think -- he's kind of in the same boat depending on what they wanted to do -- that you know their young outfielders. If you wanna use the last two months to ensure that fact. That they're gonna give those guys playing time down the stretch began that. That only try to win this year that focus set for next. Here I aid -- so not to look too far ahead but obviously I just can't resist this whole Tampa Bay David Price and David Ortiz we what do you -- We expect to see an IQ we talk and fireworks are we talking just saw a whimper. Might stand did that mean that the rage right now. Are in a position where there every game. Every out in every game means something -- -- literally. Hanging on offense and what to do. In terms of whether or not to trade David Price is the only trade price. If they trade price they're probably and it trades overs to probably get a trade Matt -- green about four on down the line the truck pulled back up. And you know we saw the rays two weeks ago. There are totally focused right now trying to get back in the race in their. 24 elevenths since June 10. Two right -- think that this thing will be deferred. And now are there hard feeling it's still there absolutely but I. I don't think it's going to be the time of the plate that -- And they related to the plate were for the hoping to player the last time that. You know I maybe I'll I'll be surprised I don't think so I think they'll just focus and -- adrenaline. Yeah -- -- Iraq is a price it's democracies going to dejected. I'll be like yeah spelled his Jimmie talk about it setting up a war. He just doesn't feel like after being around the -- it's something they're really locked in on. It'd -- get suspended -- than they fall a lot of it it's up the trade a player that suspended now. Do they they still feel like there in this thing is yeah it's it's Tampa Bay right in this how they built their team the use a guy like price and rebuilt for the future. It they can still get as much in the off season. Now they definitely wouldn't get as much because remember he's a free agent after next year and GM really smartly appointed that said to me the other day that if they wait until the off season. I don't trade him this summer than what's gonna happen every trade conversation they have with you know the Dodgers the Cardinals the Cubs whoever it is. What they'll say is. Hey yeah we we've got this trade arrangement before we do anything we have to have a window. To negotiate a long term deal and battled mitigated value now right now you know the -- can have conversations with -- And tell them look you know you're gonna get David Price for two pennant races there isn't going to be any kind of window and probably just -- practical terms it really isn't. Going to be an opportunity do that. There's no -- with a great playing well that if they continue when the trajectory over the next five or six days. Then I think that they'll hold off because remember they put a lot into the pot for this year thinking that this team was good enough Delorean. And they were surprised early on that they didn't play well. So what they're doing here over the last thirty by games that they get closer to what they. -- you know how they evaluated themselves. So like -- think that if there within five games. In the wild card race to four games the wildcard race six games seven games. In in the American League east I I I think doubling and they're contending for the 2011 they can overcome that. Are talking to buster only from ESPN espn.com baseball tonight -- you're everywhere buster and you always hear us on Wednesday at noon. So up Peter Gammons came on earlier in the week with Dennis and Callahan. And that the deals that he's talked to said at that the Red Sox -- on interested in trading Koji you are are when they were called about him. -- -- you hear the same thing one and do you think he gets dealt before the deadline. Now I don't they get dealt before the deadline lucky can't. Be in the red flag positioned. -- where yeah you're certainly not so far out that you have no hope you're close enough that you at least at some hope especially given how well they played. And what kind of message do -- -- the fans at the hands. Who bought tickets to the last two months and it ends and paid yet made up their money. You know that that would be a difficult thing for them to do because that easily be trade Koji. That the white flag and that would be really really tough to sell the fans I remember 96 when I was covering the Orioles. Peter Angelos killed two deals. Trading David Wells and trading Bobby believed that exact reason he felt like that you know what I've got to contact with people bought tickets for the last two months and so. Even if there -- -- and chatting this and I think they hang onto him but on top of that is not necessarily a great market to trade closers right now. Because of the volume of relievers who were available the other day talked with a. You know one club official and asked him to ranked the number of the positions according to the volume available. In other words which one is more than buyers market which was more than seller's market and number one and inspired mark buyer's market was right handed relievers you can go get. Rocky story or Joaquin Benoit. These these check. Maybe grant out for the rays wind up selling you can find a reliever and that means that the red that's probably wouldn't get as much as they want to return. Buster only what is from ESPN espn.com. Buster two parter here for area when it comes to Dustin Pedroia are you at all concerned about his lack of performance of late and this is I'm glad -- for sort of a national perspective on this. When we talk about out the Red Sox they're being buyers or sellers at the trade deadline. If they were to give up some of their prospects to the people outside of new England and let people mean general managers and executives and so forth and other cities. Did they have the same high opinion of the many prospects at the Red Sox have that we do here covering this team. Unique take -- player by player. I think he's really like -- -- and I you know I had conversations with guys that it seems and they -- me -- scouting reports about Betts won the day that he was called up. They think he's going to be good player. They have are developing questions about Jackie Bradley approaches the plate they loved and -- Bogart's. They like their young pitching so. You know I think did you know big picture answering your question is generally speaking I think they like the Red Sox prospects. Is much as the Red Sox do. On Pedroia have. It and it just think that the beginning of the record what he's like Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera and players like that people with other teams love them. And they wanted to do well and when they -- play. This year they cringe. And they are concerned and because. In a -- key guy who goes that plays hard every day and they assume that he played through injuries. And the other part of it is that they see someone who plays with maximum effort all the time and they worry about him wearing down. And you know because of his dedication to be a lineup every day that. You know eventually. He may Wear out faster than other guys because of those dynamic because. He swing at the Mac separate swing because it is the nature value plays at the Max separate thing. And nothing is gonna come easy for him. And can be playing a -- look like this what are -- from rival value waiters. They think that he may have been shorter shelf life than you know other guys you make a cut themselves to break and drift a little bit. -- received about a -- region and the big debate yesterday Ortiz vs Diaz Ortiz vs Jazz better it's not buster. While I think hot dog I go out on this roster wow. I missed out by raised for the rest of the week I I wanna -- that it's a big debate. Well I mean -- the better player for their Red Sox to see Diaz who follow the guy is a littler is Sammy without a doubt probably has more. Moments that were gonna remember. May and then you would be -- reason why David ever get called for a number one reason why is because is unbelievable post season moment he created. There's probably no hitter in history baseball. Who's been more clutch in big moments and you know I'm not a big fan of that word. But it is come up with -- more big hits and David Ortiz he's been unbelievable but hey. You know what. 3400 hits is 34 -- hits and yet played a long time and and no one is gonna play more and history the Red Sox and him. I'd buster thanks all for coming I'm really do appreciate it -- catch him but he -- and getting me up on that yeah. It is great walked I'll tell you Laredo laws a thanks --