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Buster Olney, ESPN: Red Sox Clubhouse is frustrated with Lester contract situation 7-2-14

Jul 2, 2014|

Buster Olney of ESPN discuss the contentious Jon Lester contract negotiations, the Red Sox chances of making the playoffs, and the possible moves the team could make at the trade deadline.

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Joining us right now as promised to start the noon hour on Wednesday as is always the case it's -- only from ESPN and espn.com. Buster brought to us by Suffolk University Toyota of Nashua and Mohegan Sun. -- and extend receive Bryce Harper again thank you -- just give union absolutely have to go with here about the courts from harper cut the line up and -- should be playing more everybody else should be. Playing is this is easy hot. While I've never seen anything like it in covering a Major League Baseball and I was trying to think back to being a fan of other sports. In a fight scene in other sports and it probably happens -- most in the NBA because let's face it the players the most practical power. There's only one guy can hold the ball. And you know when I was a huge lakers fan as a kid and I remember Magic Johnson taking a -- -- head in his second year. And basically saying -- -- it either in the west and of course magic one at that time but when you have a player who's 21 years old in baseball. Saying and it's good -- keyword -- -- should want -- like he just said. You know answering the question -- we -- to be a line up well if it -- me. I think Ryan Zimmerman should be -- you know it would be left field he said should be. In left field. And he mentioned he thinks that anti rent -- -- should be at third base. That is really really eye catching and you know I'd give Matt Williams credit. He -- -- military family. He's very structured personality. I'd be willing to bet that behind the scenes that word should probably great in on him. Coming from a 21 year old but yesterday came out he told reporters say there's no rift between us. I get breaks his back the whole way but I got to believe that behind the scenes conversations might be a little bit different. All bets as though private conversation yeah. Be willing to guess now the other thing is. Would help private conversation is between Jon Lester and Boston Red Sox -- -- report. So today he is -- baseball's quickly refuted by Lester in the Red Sox I don't believe. That you would just make it up and I think it's at the point now maybe early stage re engaging directly from wrong. It is no need to include Jon Lester until it gets serious where where does it stated in which come with that report. Well it is no question and Andy in at some point. It recently the Red Sox indeed you can argue that it on Saturday night was it a week ago wouldn't do you have any way to read document trying to get that thing. At least you get to a point where they're putting an offer on the table but I think the worst of the barn door I think it's all but over the Jon Lester is going to free agency and I think the only way to play. Circumvent that is if the Red Sox do with the at least two years ago -- Cole Hamels and say. Okay sorry about that. We're totally wrong and were willing to give you the top of the market deal. 440. You know 150 million dollars and I think there's no chance of that happening. I think that you know the Red -- effort the last couple weeks. You put an offer to automate the bottom line is that -- situations change I really believe this based on talking a lot of people know Lester. Including some of that cry about it they'd gone to -- in spring training -- said look. Would you do something like five years a 10010. Million. Which. We -- in that context. And and Clayton Kershaw again and toward fifteen million Felix and an 875 million dollars last year that are that are that are. That would have been nice fair teen friendly. Middle of the road deal but that's not what they did. Now it maybe that in this current effort of trying to put that -- you on the cable company into 200 million dollars gets what. That that you know timeframe with three months ago he now happily through his glad he didn't. Before becoming a free agent on top of that Homer Bailey who is a fine pitcher but he's not -- Lester. Got a 105 million dollars from the reds. So the landscape has changed. Quite frankly -- you know it -- that -- -- let's issues and I got a seven million dollar offer. From the red -- that probably be -- that they may be in the same mindset which is you know what. We're not close. Let's not talk about it don't give me an offer but but not have a distraction now. Which is played out in the beaten and then I didn't have to -- against other teams and my question going forward is. Given how important to the -- Is -- in the end I think one it caught in the Red Sox a whole lot more ripped him. Because of how important he is. Then it would have been if they'd just given that offered to bring trying to. -- all wasted money that's actually less than pitches not as good and doesn't help they're not quite O'Donnell estimates of comments that over the weakened to a congress -- -- kind of a snide comment when he said well Red Sox protocol we don't talk during the season. And from what I heard there was some pressure the end of camp almost like hey listen. Is this is our offer what do negotiating camp in the Red Sox I'd almost trying to corner him and now he's got -- reverse that and today your guys that won it's that would not talking during the regular season. Did the Red Sox try to -- recording again can't get this thing done. Well I think dad and I I don't know for sure if that's the way it was presented to it's I mean let's face it the two people who know that for sure. Are whoever was talking with would accept Levenson is represented in exactly how that cat but I. I can tell you that. That there is any level of frustration on lesser side. Animal that John himself for people around them because I've never. I've been around a negotiation that got more attention from other players in the team in this Lester talks the frustration level. The other guys on this team and the red -- about how this is played out he's at 89 point five at a ten. Because they don't get it on and I you know there is the perception among the other players and it seemed that the Pedroia contract last year. -- almost reset the expectations of Red Sox ownership and let's make it clear you know that the front office. In a lot of cases of the one's dignity and ultimately we need to contract this this is on the Red Sox ownership not on you know bench Harrington and his staff. But there is -- feeling among the Red Sox players some of them at least. That the -- contract reset expectations. Four Red Sox ownership in what they could. Get away -- it is probably an unfair trade but it probably appropriate. In terms negotiate with a role players beat Atlanta set in the wintertime he wanted to stay with a Red Sox. And maybe the Red Sox ownership was in okay so -- gonna give it a complete bark in the way Pedroia did. Now that that that hasn't that hasn't been -- weighted it's worked out. And they -- they kind of frustration among the other players -- this Edmund finished and they understand. That what it would mean to the team if in fact Lester -- signing with another team which seems to be distinct possibility at this point. -- -- Listen every week we talked view when we start talking about how Boston can get into the wild card race how today though -- maybe even win the division. But now I think we're talking about this the wrong way because here I am looking at the schedule I'm looking at the other teams and eastern division and now getting word about a Tampa Bay Rays. The Yankees have lost more -- the rays have won seven of their last ten. Should the Red Sox -- more word about British scene last Nelson especially seeing how well the rays have been playing and what their capability is maybe they can get the wild card spot maybe they could still win the division. Now I really think that it's hard hit -- project that would any of these five things we gonna do because they all have such. Awful flaws I think the one concern now. Did you the read that -- yankees and the Orioles. -- the trial blue jays in the Tampa Bay Rays it is. The three teens who are in the front in the American League west are gathering steam and they are moving away and of course what that would mean would is that. If you're gonna make the play out at the American League east as of today. The most likely way -- gonna happen is to win the division the only way perhaps is going to be by winning the division because the Mariners keep getting better. And better and better I think -- now. 38 and 25. In April 22. The top three run differential in baseball now -- all those American League west means. Oakland one Seattle two with a -- angels a third. And so I think that that now becomes part of the calculation if you Tampa -- with David Price -- the Red Sox. He -- articulate and we're starting pitching -- What do we trade assets to improve this team when actually it's now make the plants are probably. Shrinking because the wild card spot went up my -- might want to go out of that division. What can always turn away a pitcher the caliber Bud Norris again Giancarlo Stanton former white. But of -- our -- our cost her you don't Monica's blue and I and Kristi we've had a fun time with this Houston Astros story I'm curious from your standpoint which general managers do you think have the most explaining to do when it comes to some of the offers they allegedly were willing to take for Bud Norris when he is asked to -- out there. Guys -- is an interesting the last couple days because people in baseball -- -- that says I would regale us that. That the Dodgers -- yesterday in the deck Frankie was all of this convicted you know fascinated -- the internal conversations that -- -- I didn't think that what we read in that report. Reflects what you hear from general managers all over baseball. Where they're saying making -- so difficult because. In the current. And it generally you know -- generation general managers and columnist on of money ball. They are you know started out -- -- the most ridiculous proposals so you know if you are eighteen and you call. You know the answers about but Norris. What you get back is giving huge three best prospects. And that drives people crazy. And that's. Kind of what you see -- those report hidden in the and that that leaked information that those requests come out and that happens all the time -- baseball. It opposed to waiting used to make trade do you know a couple general managers go out have a couple drinks. And maybe this way to do it now -- better but it's certainly more maddening it certainly explains why the -- -- made when you read those documents -- some trade proposals are not. They're ridiculous though one more trade proposal to throw at you you're just because I do think other skiers that David Ross got JP the other day that those get the best out of Jake Peavy was auditioning and it just kind of the way I looked at you to -- Jake Peavy. To be traded maybe make one more start or even the coming weeks and and who would be possible buyers. Well first up and they have been having conversations or at least they were they -- last week which is teams nationally just basically poke around -- he would day. Might be out there for them. You know I got to believe that I don't have specific information that the cardinals are involved. But there are scrambling to get back into the rotation because of the injury to Michael -- and I mean Garcia and and Jake is. You know someone that they're gonna know I think the Marlins are -- that are are looking for help at the back in their rotation those 22 places to me. Would make a lot of sense to Atlanta Braves are scrambling for some help with the back and because they've had some injuries as well. And I mean let's face it if they wind up trading Jake. And the way to deal would work would be that the -- -- to eat a whole lot of money they probably get CCC plus prospect in return. I do you know who dug the rhetoric people who weakened that they feel like that there are mechanical fixes. Engaged to be made and it's now like an -- seated in the fastball velocity that it's not like -- stop it completely disappear. And they feel like -- his breaking ball can get better with more refinement to date -- the other option in the rotation that they may. Decide you know what the -- moved him at some point. Buster thanks all for coming on appreciate it as always have a good week we'll speak with the again next Wednesday OK you guys -- I think that's buster -- And -- MW EI.

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