May 27, 2014|
Rob Bradford is joined by MLB.com Ian Browne, author of the new book, 'Idiots Revisited,' to participate in a word association exercise involving the members of the 2004 Red Sox who are returning to Fenway Park to celebrate the world championship club.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
It's nice secret. Not -- things that interest. So I wish my chest. And just sit there and it's okay. Episode of this and to be who would wind you know. Usually rob Bradford. Welcome to another edition of the brow approach those sponsors as always by schools distinctive clothing the people make you look so darn dead. And hope to a new insurance. Do you find fine institutions that you go fine institution we have another one right here stating here at Turner Field. Ian Browne mlb.com. Does fine job covering the Red Sox but more importantly at least on this day in on the day with a 2004 Red Sox. Are returning to Fenway Park he wrote the what -- this highly acclaimed. Really critics to -- this book. And it's called -- revisited it's all about the 2004. World Series on for the Red -- ten year anniversary perfect timing. Ian this is I know you've done a ton of media interviews but this is probably going to be your best one you agree by far because you -- Being you know you know what made this -- so appeared Theo made all the questions asked. I'm also in the tree in knowledge -- as well I should make that perfectly clear so instead of just talk about the book there's a lot Guitar -- the book and it's just good stuff. But I wanna do something a little creative. Because we have the 2004 Red Sox returning to Fenway Park. It's a great time for the book it's a great time to talk about this subject so I have a list of players who have committed to coming back to Fenway Park. So what I wanna do is go through some of these players don't go through all of us that there's so many of them but I want to give you'd give me your favorite memory. They Camby from the bookie can be in the book for the first in the comes to mind so. -- we're gonna mix it up this not just going to be -- David Ortiz -- -- -- It okay. Ellis Burton. Ellis park and he he came in with with the high hopes there -- some guy who's with the Red Sox -- late eighties or so to speak great homecoming for him. He was gonna platoon with Ortiz against lefties and seems kind of crazy now. Quipped that he wasn't that big factor in the clubhouse even though he's never really helped me put it Terry Francona always thought he gave that team a great -- present a great veteran presence. Specialists this -- that's great today and is the type of stuff you get greeted by the book it's great because. We think of Ellis Burks and so many ways at Red Sox fans. But really got 2004 season was unique for parks just because of all the things you just said in. But he that's what's great about this book is that it rekindled a lot of memories not just the memories of coming back to the Yankees but a lot of different things to keep marching on here Orlando Cabrera. Orlando Cabrera just -- -- this team with his energy in me yet I'm Manny Ramirez and lime green Manny where the guy to check out some times. And that Cabrera challenged him in the middle pup plus one day when many -- is trying to pull plot line company said that -- -- -- my paycheck right here and some players and that's him at -- just dropped to my sock. Cabrera -- as many like that then next thing you know Manny was right back in the line up. We'll pages out on. It's on page -- 123. Fair enough Lenny DiNardo. Where it's an arbiter of the rule five Ditka picky he finished -- game at Yankee Stadium. That it didn't really do much of that team to be honest again I can't say that that he he brought a lot of magic to that if the edict to cut the book. He he did not make the cut -- left on the cutting room floor about. It's along that we remember other other memories from what we do and starting pitcher in. Sony opener for the Italian World Baseball Classic team in the first -- did that L members. -- Emery was you know a tough lefty. You know through through hard he he had a big -- -- he would always take the ball a mile as a specialist he would go against lefties. And right -- -- was you know what I'll always remember he was the guy standing on the mound when they won game seven to get the last out there so you don't always have. I know the guy and a bullpen Keith bowl. Kids -- people that know at the time what personal problems who's going to bury his wife basically informed him. -- before the playoffs as she was leaving him and he told me a big motivation thing and the -- passes -- wanna go home casino who's going home to an empty house. To this guy to throw a hundred pitches in three straight days over three days in in game 45 or six. Of the ALCS at -- the most underrated performer on the team considering. Well he did that they've never when that fails he has about Tebow doesn't ever stop them -- in his that's the type stuff there. The whole divorce story and and the defense sees -- vision again in this book him. And fortunately you're getting right now from Ian -- on the brat throws show by the next one -- Jack the hitting coach. Papa Jack and he was a guy that Johnny Damon went to win when Damon was in a slump. In the -- in the ALCS there and Damon and bounce out with with the Grand Slam a three run homer in the apartment Jack always had a way of kind of keeping guys optimist he had them feel like there the best hitter in the world even when they are in a slump America. You know Damon talked about how Papa Jack kind of kept him going. And birdies out Damon did in game -- When Jones. -- gets a lot of media and -- a lot of excitement there the first base coaches box when. When Dave Roberts stole second there but that didn't didn't cover a lot of I think Agassi well we're gonna allow Marvin Jones start. Yes that -- the university Aaron -- -- for his obscenely huge glasses that. -- -- -- Dave -- it was like the team psychologists you know I talked him through this -- He broke down the characters are pretty much everybody in the team he knew how to relate to these guys you talked about Curt Schilling a lot of people thought he was an approachable wasn't a great teammate. Opposite is that the spent some time with Schilling. He's at peel back the layers is what you had to do because he knew which you know I don't want me to these guys tick. And he did an applicant that bonded the team and Arroyo in a lot of ways that the people that know about. -- skipped to the you're probably going in alphabetical order may throw you for a loop here and I Kevin Youkilis. Kevin Youkilis to an -- when when Bill Miller hurt his knee twice during that season and Youkilis and remain as Major League debut with Zambrano. I hit him now home run in May is in his first game in the major leagues and every time Miller went down -- -- was to come off the bench. And and play well in the -- was kind of right in that Pawtucket shuttle that'll -- -- yeah seriously he's a huge part of that the team that won the World Series -- 07. It is one and he's coming back I think you might but he's coming back pokey Reese. Pokey Reese elected by the -- early in the season when -- and had a lot to smile about that weren't playing that well. On Nomar was on the DL. Trot -- -- the on this guy may have played some of those acrobatic defense you've ever seen and I still many remember catching me on a Sunday night game against the Dodgers. Where he left so high that you could dunk the basketball on this -- All right Mike Myers. Mike Myers came in and get to the lefties you know they didn't like as an every once in a straight lefty specialist -- is really what it is today you just brilliant for one or two guys. He was the last acquisition because they've got Cabrera they got me -- they got Dave Roberts mid August Theo -- goes on waivers and he's he's my mind sitting there. And he gets the report not the team down the stretch. Withdrawal to you which I have fond memories of an role remember for specific stories. But this your stories might be completely different than mine I suspect he will be Scott Williamson. Scott will. Concerned he was big and -- three class for the team and I thought he was going to be kind of they're set up man in front of smoke. You know more and then if he gets hurt earlier in the year and pitch well when he was healthy then there's the biggest event New York. Where you know Williams and pull themselves out of the game bench -- only touch on some in the middle of the clubhouse and he says you know we don't do that around here. But into the kind of felt bad about it up to -- it. Williams it was it was genuinely hurt in -- having surgery and you know it's very much -- that's that's the main thing you know where we're going some. Of course I remember him or seeing dose of the Benoit hotel I'm in Saint Petersburg in. And I'm a little -- the you do not to a ten year anniversary book of chasing Steinbrenner the 2003 season Bruntlett Williamson definitely -- been a lot more prominent in the you know three book. I'd Cesar Crespo. So is -- -- -- -- or the best spring training and a cigarette sites where everything is it something like six Tony I've. Then it every year after that Terry Francona always cities -- -- spring training stats and you know as you Cesar Crespo has an example so he didn't do very much after return. -- give back to tennis some of the regulars here Mike Timlin. Mike Timlin was the leader of the bullpen in a folk was that was the cause of a timlin was with the guy coming gives guys a kick in the pants and they needed it. If he had already had that streak Drake -- -- 12 rings with the Blue Jays. And hit that -- that championship credentials. And he also get big outs for the team in both those three you know four. Right to be good story from the book for many. -- man that's good stories ever -- you know Camelot was talking about how. No one to one game and Anaheim -- to remind. Manny that they had a game minute because he said man they call the mayors on his way I. Some two or three hour drive in California where he wanted to go buy some antique car symbolize claims that many productive demonized so -- that many to turn around and came back. We're basically you would do fertilizing the entire books I've haunted by. Hours of the book -- to these street Gerald -- we can do this time we're gonna keep on nov march and on through here. But Trot Nixon. Trot Nixon you know people remember about Trot Nixon for many years that this squad was really messed up I -- he didn't play very much during the regular season. In a couple of doctor Aoki told that he thought it was a reach that trial would be able to be back and it's not the playoffs when he went on the DL again in July. What's Allen to Boston University pretty much every day it was Scott while one of the trainers have worked on the track. And every week at the back and I only come back but Trot Nixon had some big games in the playoffs especially game five. Of the ALCS against the Yankees -- made two diving catches. And it they hit the set up at the game time around it's I don't think this team wins a World Series without Trot Nixon. Tied. Now we get into the starting rotation Pedro Martinez. Well you know Pedro is one of the obviously being the best pitcher Red Sox history of wars a contract here. And even he admits to me that he was a little messed up mentally at the beginning -- -- -- -- he thought the team was leaking some things about his arm -- and his velocity going down trying to you know averaged. In the contracts that he said that once he finally just put that out of his mind he decided to me that he was gonna become a free agent. That is -- on the rest of the air remember Pedro bring the midget has meant it for and then in the clubhouse I think it's a little person but that's OK this is a podcast. Need after a tough loss against the Yankees he brought as little as little personal friend into the clubhouse have. I kind of alleviated some of the pressure the team with -- through. At that time -- one of the things guys are most -- in this book is -- Terry Francona had Pedro pitching game seven Yankee Stadium when the Red Sox. Candidate to one lead in the Yankees made a strong run there in the crowd really effective against Pedro still has no idea where -- and it's -- -- don't know about it. You know -- -- really give me good explanation Lawrence still. It's still mystified as people. Speed to Francona want to be some -- Francona stuff from this book Francona was it was great talking about the situation earlier in the in his very first game he was tested when. When Pedro Martinez not only get shelled in the first game of the year with that left the clubhouse early before the game. And you know Terry talked about how he really had to be stern with Pedro. Until they can get away away with that kind of thing and he was surprised when when Pedro had a different version of events and you know Pedro tried to say that yet heatedly that part about that was actually -- -- in the family room it starts errors that well. -- you know I let me something like that up solid I want to bring attention to it. So we have Terry where it was get a talking about how he kind of kept an even -- but he was going through struggles earlier in the year or some managers might have panicked. He did the same thing when they're down 30 in the NLCS for a lot of managers might have pushed the panic button and juggle the lineup around Terry said that he -- the only way these guys can win -- at least -- with the guys who got their own there. The Bay Area you think back that was his first years. Made first here's a manager of the Red Sox are young right now negate that like you said that first. Day and then to to do what he did he generally been in the playoffs as a manager either so. -- this study did you sense of when you're talking to Francona that he could look back at that in and understand how new everything was to him. Yeah he well you know he -- now that he was a little naive about the whole thing and he didn't really realize how -- these games were. And Boston until the season started and he also talked about you know the top thirteen inning loss they had a New York the game when Jeter. Dover in the stands and Terry was outside the clubhouse after the game when guys are coming in patting him on the back if he's upset that at the task is still upset -- -- criticism from media members -- You know accused -- them after a loss he was saying I had to tell these guys they're giving good effort tonight to keep the mentally in the game he thinks that that that. Came back and help them but you know Orlando Cabrera -- -- over this team doesn't win with any manager rather than Terry Francona said he was the perfect manager -- -- team. I'm in a row through some names here who are going to be at Fenway Park. For the 2004 celebration. You want to give me stories that I suspect you don't have a lot of stories of these guys you just tell me if they I've been one single reference in the book ready. Jimmy Anderson. Jimmy Anderson and memory they they call them up after like a series an extra inning in -- that nobody in the bullpen. And you know I really have no idea who Jimmy Anderson wasn't to be reminded me about an hour ago so he's not so it's not the book bag is not the book that I'm glad for him that he has a ring. At that both nights Buick you know the Anderson family I randomized to receive the book at a policy is in the book because when Trot Nixon has gone through a slump. I'm after the NLCS earlier in the World Series. He -- that he had out of highs to go to the kids that -- Saint Louis before I game three of the World Series and he's an out of -- do soft -- them -- throw batting practice for about an hour. To help get a -- so that I did did nothing but punts against them I do. For about ten minutes that he said bunting was a great track device. For trot any say -- that applies to from making himself available. That's a great at a surprise you story but -- suspecting -- the next two games your gonna have great stories about distant like you know they're not the book to says -- -- that a -- that's fine Jason shield. -- out Jason jail or uzis either you trade from San Diego right you is. Theo Epstein want to run when he was getting a lot of Jackson sandy and that now is one of them by now -- I couldn't tonight keep it for the team operator Clavet in remember it was a four still sizable. -- I remember him being at the hope levering ceremony with very excited to get as Raymond wasn't so that -- -- -- that I remember is actually on the afford him. The last one is the last question I ask is he spent all about an hour so it's argument Ortiz at bank. And tell me this thing bill Ortiz said they were like wow yeah that that's a really is story I didn't know about that and that's going to be a big -- lot of money by putting this. Mark there Ortiz really talked about how personally. He took this -- these losses in the playoffs when they're down three you know they senator members like late in game three seeing some lady in the stands crying. And it wasn't so that when he realized what this is doing for people it's every day we get a we have that these people smile again and he really. Put the team on his back he almost made a hit happened single handedly. For a couple days and just to see him still doing that nine years later we did the class last year might even be more impressive the -- I do know for. As a man enough not receive another guy who impacts this team quite like David Ortiz did. I -- doing this interview today it was there was the best. Book podcasts that we have executed so far. The book is 83 visited you can pick it up anywhere all the bookstores. Go on line. It really lower you in the Amazon ranking. Art house gecko does that -- three digits -- they were. More but -- just last I checked for we can get to three digits that rigorous physical or you podcast so -- that's our goal folks together and -- three -- -- -- tied to -- with a look at facts are thank you.