Mar 6, 2014|
Mikey and Ryder talk with Hall of Fame baseball player and current analyst/broadcaster Dennis Eckersley. Eck gives all kinds of insight into the Red Sox current pitching staff and how valuable a reliable bullpen can be. He also talks about how the game has changed since his playing days.
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Are back here and a planet Mikey show our number two and Lenny Magglio that didn't let him exist joint in his in his studio gentlemen along with it like John. I'm in an award winning fashion but I don't know does anybody has the credentials to talk baseball. And there is as meaningful as hall of Famer. Dennis Tankersley who's on the hotline hello act. Like I was a -- man -- your -- your winter and and how does this weather kinda suck. Where you want it -- year olds I'd have to -- Here every year -- -- better that's half. Oh OK Cutler that's where god the -- And you know I knew that would -- -- even ask that question you don't stay you know you don't have that. At lovely bronzed and from being -- New England in March that's for sure right. Not -- -- I've been working on and it's pretty easy to do out here and great. We have yet that. What do you like so far jumps out at who jumps off the page at Jack anybody. I don't know if everything and so I hit it -- that yeah like there's nothing really. All that exciting I -- other Red Sox feel they've been here today I'm in Jupiter right now. They're there they're here today and and and I thought yesterday and I guess the story more than anything to me it is is. It's probably Bogart's in middle Brooks and and Bradley I mean that's pretty much the -- I think picking looked great. -- how. Yeah lines up pretty -- you know that starting so we are retirement literally the starting five let me repeat it no matter who -- at the bottom your of your five man rotation of -- -- -- -- brought him they both have some real luck. Upside. Oh absolutely I think their five starting pitchers are good as anybody I mean there -- exactly in our division you know and -- our bullpen is concerned. -- -- You are if he can he be the same guy I mean. And now I mean he was incredible last year but. Big guy and I love the fact that you know the Dalai it is is the real deal along way and -- is a good deal. Yeah you got three guys that can close really. -- much about standards you know to me the big guys. -- Miller gonna do what he did -- all there for a time that got people we got excited about Miller didn't get the way through that. Here you are yet it is striking out guys at the rate of you know more than one parading. And his stuff looked nasty that he has that weird foot injury. I Greg when he's about to bust out as it as it left stadium left and left -- stopper. You know in the middle read a middle relief and -- you know at least put Breslow and then they have Workman as well potentially. You know it could be regarded here. Aren't out out of there and think about it and you know about -- -- -- -- guy because nobody can is more qualified the -- talk about what we closes disposal look like I said it last year. We talk about Mariano Rivera was no longer you know in the major leagues but you look at the the body -- work that he put out there overheads and many considered to be the of the greatest of all time but what what I saw from coaching last year was as an individual season act better than any individual season does that. That Mariano had an interest save for maybe 1990 where you let out what zero point 61 for God's sake. You walked four guys I know other than that I can't think of any individual season even Willie Hernandez. Where the guy was just so lights out. And you look back and think I'm -- -- -- absolutely phenomenal. It's not about the last twelve months nobody did anything I'll discuss. I mean that's almost seems like a given but. That's the manager's dream. To have something not yet you never even got a heartbeat would discuss this -- -- night getting a career for a month. I mean that's incredible and I think you get I don't think he's going to be that good but he didn't do it again. I've ever happy no he's 38 years almost can't watch him on me if they if they take care of them. He could not be may not duplicate it -- but I expect them to get good anybody. We didn't -- his -- at 38 some people worried about that act but to the type pitcher as he's not a power pitchers so. -- -- You know he can definitely got a whole lot of fitness. I mean yeah I mean the way things have gone up in what he stroked well get -- -- up and god put it out here -- he gets right down businesses. Yeah out Sammy Sammy hit hard to do quite what he did. But it does that experience. And even machine. And you're gonna take care now there could be better be careful. We talk about 38 for him you know and every soul worked for -- pretty -- from this week can be as you said he's thrown nothing but strikes they all know always gonna throw nothing but strikes he's not thrown more than 89 and ninety miles an hour at the most. And and yet no one seems to be able to put the bat on the ball is it is -- voodoo. I know I mean it's related -- everybody talked about a lot beat like that the adult. You know what they're solid dump them there means a little deception there but he -- the greatest four ball the most consistent -- -- I've ever seen. You know -- anytime you want but it's there and it mostly down. They just don't need to pick that up about like this guy came out of nowhere you look at your numbers at all career hit there yet and doesn't walk anybody. And he gets it done and sometimes I think Jeter close. You know and get beat up -- you know who knows but according. When you're not a closer you know yeah well I think that helped him out a lot there. Now is it a maturity confidence thing with a guy that he's now you've been around a long time and you and by the way when you were 37. You had there's that the sickest I'd be the MVP. And the Cy Young award winner. At the age of 37 so is there a maturity thing where -- do you know they hitters you know exactly where you're going Wear them. What's your gonna throw what they can't hit and your eight year old businesses -- -- it is screwing around with B&Q. It's about OK hit this and if you can hit this you deserved it it. Oh yeah the media being I work my way up to that the year that Lester had a -- year. But it looked like -- -- mean I had all that extracurricular. If I had control galore yeah I could play. You know what my fastball. And -- didn't get it becomes everybody thinks you're gonna get them out. You don't have a talented like he can pick them out there -- -- it -- that the way it's supposed to be and that's what I do OK so everybody go along with it. In our -- and that Al west. And picked up how what lacked here for them. You started as a club as a starter we all know that and with the stat that I bring up was the one that the late Ken Coleman brought up when we had a party for you at Fenway Park when you ride I was stunned by that -- -- -- a -- -- Cy Young had 511 wins and seventeen saves so he was involved in 528 victories but you know if you don't have a different way. 197 wins 390 saves 587. Victories. So you -- possess. All mapped. It out like you know well I have big game restraint -- -- that's what forty years whatever it is. And you know the way they've gotten specialized and and I just felt the tiny wood incredible. When I let my career because. There was no way I was -- accomplish stepped up elastic knee went that well. You know I was. You know I was ever going to be at 23 any you know closed gate doubts about me. I took advantage of awaited game is gone yeah and yeah -- saint immediate. -- don't know I'm out game this thing is overrated you know. Is it you out days you've got to have I think he'd have three closers but you know that's not a probably the most important part of staff now. -- that have that depth in the bullpen. You mean 789 inning guy a guy that has the same basic function of shut them down in any of those three innings is is almost in your mind is is important as the last night. Absolutely not -- had a tough job last year what does all that I didn't know wind up so I would go to every. -- -- and and they got on him every time they get the upper deck I was just better than anybody last year yeah I mean you really. Yeah do you take Toronto where I'm symbolic of value like viral load because they're in a and he got like a buck watched closely man that guy had a cup there's job he's coming at six -- guys on base. But then also you want to get you know -- -- the next night you'll ever. Right right and you know not only did not know the phone was gonna ring act but he may not know what they were saying when he picked it up. Yeah I thought I let him go without -- I -- -- I mean I want. Yeah. Well some of the -- -- Red Sox pitching wise is now because I'm looking at the lineups here and you know the Yankees have made some moves in and -- some people in it. And this American League east of the Baltimore Orioles go back to what they were a couple years ago. This can be a very very tough division for the Red Sox to duplicate. What they did you played on championship teams and great ball clubs is there ever. Even a subliminal orator in our area psychological letdown for a team it's going all the way. Where they don't even know their -- a slightly let down they just come out of the box and the with the littlest Jews. What -- -- -- that the starter would not -- here aren't we got -- boxes and we liked what he -- you know in that really helped put the clubs need to find out. Kind of like that take pressure off him he wouldn't work. But you know obviously the -- -- that he could -- you start to look around on the Yankees Kirk. Obviously are going to be better what they did score your run last year which is like. You got to hit it. They're definitely gonna score more runs -- -- they're picking it up in the air. Piniella scare me ball well because we don't play good against Baltimore right you know and then I thought they -- gonna make a -- they get -- -- not the end all but at stake if they had good pitching. It didn't stop thinking that we have and their bullpen it up in the air. -- -- -- -- -- you know. Yeah Wright always talks about Tampa happened -- ballot that they're not bet he's right in grabbed the starting pitching look at their is five starters. Right and I don't ski they can Babin after they -- all you need to know a lot of put together. And look at them they're probably that he could be. They explicit in Chicago that tell you -- relieve and we you'd told decision new job or did you seek it and when it happened. What we have thoughts what. Well I left Chicago I -- straight right in the spring of 87 and the guys that would come in there is no -- was coming in and they get Matic and Moyer were common in. So I was sort of it was time for me go. I'm in spring training I I think I throughout the -- of the they didn't know I didn't know yet or not I guess -- Bill -- and got what audience don't just sit around and I'll figure out what to do it your belt. Yeah and it just like it sort of found my way it was like. They were meant to be. What started was Duncan with Tony Vento. Yeah you gotta do to get -- and he's got a pretty good reputation and you became the best in the game. Well you got some I I just sort of fell my way up there I still wanted to start you did you know. And I and even when -- -- over 87 out -- out of the bullpen. You know it in the offseason I'd say I don't want -- 88 but we have to we will conduct Bob Welch. And he isn't there -- and I itself. -- what he's like Alaska went 27 games problems with these -- -- night in 1990. Unbelievable. Now when you were starter could you have some interesting stories and wanna verified if -- 21 of them was the obvious the no hitter when -- Cleveland. Is it true. That -- -- think you know you know what we're going this. Event that you got the ninth inning one guides Darrell. And that was it rip you struck out. And that you did you really point to the next guy and say you're next. -- W it's got to live with that it only happened what it's a no hitter that one more out and Bradley was -- -- -- -- -- -- Saturday it was guilt or okay. There's -- one to nothing game there's two out he's coming up aren't shopping at the -- want to pick yet and he's ticketed Bryant comment from the playing. Look at the camera camera guy it'll bother them death. You know they came other camera while their you know -- up or try pop -- -- Longo was that what being on TV. These things refugees as though he was bothered by the camera guy I'd like turnabout that hey they're not here to -- your pitcher. Yeah the last out here you're in math. That's except when everybody is like it. You know we all know that you know what -- need to be as a pitcher in Major League -- you have to have a degree. Especially as a closer. But. Of cocky and this that your ability is going to be one great up from the -- it's come to the plate that's almost a necessity and to be a Major League pitchers that yeah. -- some I could do the level and done and I got carried away but that's how I want to me -- I -- about mound presence you know finalized to. I wanted to make people know that I was competent even know half the time I -- it. Right you said and it got half the battle it is looking like you're the guy that you -- centerpiece did -- to get mad at me up but. Mean I don't look at Matt you know. Did you have to do that just to because you have said and you said it here. But you -- set ever do in the passing need to use an interest and how I mean. It's a dangerous job in close it's all on the line. And you either it never says skid may be both -- is that indigenous of all close there's always that you and that's the way you combat ended by -- hey get up did you're out. Yes if there's a lot of -- Yeah I'm when you're demonstrative stuff like that you're just try to like your -- you know they got immediately so practiced there a lot involved here. If I give up I am the -- yeah. Yeah I mean yeah it's all on you every putt is not a big deal I give it up I gave it up there though you know I took that out the mallet. You know and what might bunt the -- I'm excited about the hurt any -- -- -- yeah I don't hall of fame generally an -- and largely to the closer been at as you said at the distinctly differently defined position over the last twenty years. And depart and thanks thanks in part to Tony La Russa. And his whole attitude about what that role is but there have been some closers that I feel and you know. I'm not talk about Bruce order here who I at a no he should be but what at least Smith getting ignored the guy had 400 some saves. -- what do you think about the way the hall of fame treats closes with yourself notwithstanding. Right I -- -- the next guy up is there's really going to be -- -- Trevor Hoffman yet younger better guys out a lot you know. They have been certain that sort here. At least let you know under the spotlight of the -- ball. I mean what he's he get more responsibility and being -- any any shape or -- eighty games -- Gonzalez yeah -- a bunch -- -- so. -- -- then you know I bet that I didn't get in because like a close game don't know I got in because I didn't vote. Yet yet it's wanna get season he had the no hitter you know you Pittsburgh and by the way I wanna ask you this too at 78 -- to this day. What you don't we talk about the way the Red Sox won last year without really. An overabundance of starters. High paid. You know big name guys but. The one team that I always I'd like that I have pain when I think of how it 78. Especially the end of the year we what are what are light up that team was the Red Sox. And you guys down the stretch when yet had to win eleven out of twelve or whatever everybody wanted. Everybody took the ball went out there did their job and got your guys that one game playoff. Sent to this date is that they knew that it didn't have a better result. Also you know at the time it didn't you know might without thinking man if he can only look -- next year though about not -- -- -- -- cry in the corner bat or about it and it. Meanwhile got between desire by April. You talk about it every day lineup you know there was -- that was a no brainer and just threw him out there. Yeah yet for five hall of famers and and a couple more that -- a bit. You are absolutely doubt that was a great team ops in the ninth -- -- -- you know like right today. You know how how was that comes from. Cleveland Boston College are out of a life change you play the old metropolitan. -- -- that place is a crazy place to play municipals that you municipal league spot but it got it I was single I would the mania and there. But he ate the night in me. They actor and a greater part of my life. Two things I always wanted to ask you number one. When you did decide to make up your own language and number true. The next time you mad Gibson asked in a home run who said -- first. Well aren't all that the language saying it yet just sort of happened over the years I got -- myself -- pat Dobson. Really -- passed on since then they'll you know I got a lot of myself from him. So what does not necessarily original I'm sure people get second that they then you are not completely honest it doesn't get locked up Namibia nobody gets sick of that that's I guess and I didn't want I don't -- associate myself with a walk off beat the other -- I didn't quite buy that but I guess I originated that and lead accurately that the -- -- them. I never Whitaker gets in and began with -- -- it yeah that really hurt them and. -- yourself -- -- sell me you know he had a good pitch there we -- look at the tape he went but he was hurt. -- you say dagger blow smoke up -- but for the rest of us like every time you run -- told. Oh yeah hop 200 reported aren't here. Why are you a -- you please give us an idea how the conversation goes. Now I can't that it is hard not stepped out of the many and went over exactly what happened how he went to just walk out back and how -- Bay is way into the game. Yet up but it do look me. You know it hit the ball like his old backdoor breaking ball and I got to live with a level at the plate but I can hear but it might. -- my -- my gut like it you know you're the manager that are -- -- back Brockman at all -- That's us today and had to say that's negative it's like a bad -- you got to live within a matter how painful it is and look at it as you -- it in the course they show that highlight all the time. An accurate you're great on television every knows it I tell -- I've had nothing but great comments about all the stuff you've done TB from everybody and by the way we have a pretty critical audience here Boston. Everybody likes what you do the way you do it to me and tell me it is accurate it's like you are 21. Broadcasting you're you're talking baseball and the camera and the Mike capita beyond is that fair to say. Yeah yup the couple might not mean -- is too careful he kept it let it fly. You're out there that fine line there. And you know what the biggest thing not break it passion. And -- the game united in optic like getting into that match. You know and I and I and I should be at -- regret (%expletive) kidding me last year it was like a dream to be -- into the game. -- you know a part of it really is helpful with all the respect their you know the -- will be eternal -- I I told -- this last the most -- -- -- duck boats. You what you -- Al Sharpton. Were born on the same day in the same year and look at him and look at -- -- every you know he's not he's only -- -- because you know what he's a he's a troublemaker. About -- hours at a -- you look so young man beat his old you are. Like -- -- you know manned -- out 59 minutes it start to go. Opposite guard the ball out the back it's only if you always called doctor Robert Leonard if he really falls out. I know. Word is say a fact I think I thought Mike was gonna say you have a better and it chopped him but he didn't count on their practice and -- -- Well actor you're gonna be joined what to tell what's your schedule as we don't know what you're going to -- and he got nervous at Florida things that. But what what's your schedule going to be NASA and -- and I even be back and TBS and obviously. And at the Indiana you have -- -- of had a -- post -- about that you're six give him and then let me get like ten games. To get -- a break there at some point okay which is good -- that's kind of cool that I'm done a playoff like the first step playoff for TV yet. Well that's good. That's good everybody likes it man you do multi year you know you may and appeal of a -- broadcasting hall of Famer when you don't notice it picked up. At thanks for joining us and that will hopefully we'll see it down there around one were down there or when your back up here but it's a great talk and he. You're very welcome aren't out right at daycare and Dennis Packers -- I was always fun on no matter what he's there's always always been that way too this is monster -- -- he's in deep trouble and it lives with an idea draft by a bigger re directed off the floor. I haven't noticed that I was in from -- looks like he's he's got tons and -- it just me. On the topic is at UC he's got long and many years ago before he has an issue would have to call it the good doctor Rodham Clinton's so you and about the image yet ready yet roughly -- look at how would look who looks the better -- you -- certainly me right how much much -- a you know course.