Feb 21, 2014|
WEEI.com's Mike Petraglia and Alex Speier discuss the latest news from Fort Myers, including Larry Lucchino's comments on the differences between the Red Sox and Yankees.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
Welcome back to jetBlue park in Fort Myers, Florida home of Red Sox spring training 2014. This is day five Arab Spring training. For the defending World Series champions I'm joined as always by Alex spear these senior writer for the Red Sox in Major League Baseball. Or WEEI dot com I'm Mike the trial yet. Here's the story on day number five. We had John Henry speaker earlier in the week we had Tom -- speak on Thursday today Friday it was Larry Lucchino is turned and he did not miss an opportunity Alex spirit to take yet another shot at the inevitable New York Yankees. Poke the bear the old fashioned in a minute or New York Yankees spending ways. In in discussing the contrast between the Red Sox and yankees. I think that often times he's tried to manufacture a difference between those two organizations and how they conduct business. Frankly I think that a lot of those distinctions were falling by the wayside. At the time when the Red Sox weren't losing that were kind of seeing their success diminished. The Red Sox were jumping into the deep end of the free agent pool. Failed on Teixeira got outbid by the Yankees signed John Lackey go long term deal Adrian Gonzales talk Crawford we remember what -- -- all of those. Turned out but the Red Sox have become a leaner operation model and so. Now when when Larry Lucchino says it where a very different animal and his term incites the old fashioned inimitable big spending ways of the Yankees. There's there's something to that because the Red Sox aren't paying anywhere more than sixteen and a half million dollars on the roster right now and it felt like the Yankees signed about 25 people this offseason who cost more of that. We should also point out Mark -- yet again is start dating New York Yankees have had a horrible run. A -- with that Mark Teixeira or lack thereof or have today because that's the nature of the long term gambles fair point that's a reason why he why the Red Sox have kind of embrace this model. In which in in the -- -- terms there is a rebut double presumption against signing these guys. To long term deals it is for but have also they will make exceptions Lucchino said. But by and large they feel like they've found this kind of sweet spot where you're better off if you're gonna commit to a guy for the long term making your own guys while you while he's in his prime years. Now yesterday the news that broke that the and David Ortiz and his agent -- -- and finally we've got a new -- the -- he did indeed as a matter of fact the person I'm speaking to right now. Broke that news so -- it's all a team it is all a team here at WEEI. But yesterday with the news of course referring to is that David Ortiz bench Harrington and the Red Sox formally sat down no deal offered today. Larry Lucchino said indeed. We'd love to the -- David Ortiz. Finished with a Red Sox. We wanna see it may make it happen obviously there is some work yet to be done. But and everybody knew that I think Alex I think that's safe to say that the other name came up today certainly in terms the long term future of the Red Sox. Jon -- those two names how Larry Lucchino addressed it. You encourage discourage that you know they would like to get long term deals done with Lester and you know extend David. Pretty clearly the answer is yes on both Lucchino said that the Red Sox are quote eager to resolve and quote. The situation with Ortiz. Even though they take nothing for granted that they'll be able to find common ground they they do think it. You know I don't clearly because the parameters in terms of length are pretty clear. -- there doesn't need to be that much negotiating right that would go on with Ortiz but. McCain also said that the team would sit down hopefully -- was hoping to sit down with Jon Lester and his agents later in the spring so so I think -- As we've said all along. Given investors expressed willingness to sign for something that is less than top of the market dollars which you know -- that one of his highlights of the off season. -- is expression of his his passion to stay in Boston for the duration of his career and you notes two it's -- the idea of free agency in order to. In order to see if he can keep this relationship with the on the organizations have played foregoing. Baton. I've always been under the presumption that they would probably find common ground sometime this spring with an announcement shortly after opening day. That may or may not prove the case but obviously the fact they're planning on sitting down with him gives you some kind of indication of where things are going. Now Larry Lucchino certainly made it appeared to that he felt that it was very genuine. Interest on that on the behalf of Jon Lester that he does wanna stay he wants to do whatever he can't make it. Make it -- get it done. But you have the opportunity to ask Larry why did the deal with Jacoby Ellsbury get done. Right well he said that there is this rebuttal presumption about whether or not you can sign players to long term deals why didn't Jacoby Ellsbury rebut the presumption and his answer was sometimes the markets this takes you to a place that is too far beyond you know beyond the comfort zone and so. He noted it. -- ended up with a really nice contract essentially bad. I don't he didn't of course want he said that there are players who you really want to retain to whom you sometimes have to say goodbye. I think that's a fair way of putting it the Red Sox are in position where they. Probably got the good the negotiations what -- -- up from the Yankees would've taken him to a place of some discomfort. And moreover they had a replacement in their organization a potential replacement in a guy like Jackie Bradley junior. The Yankees don't have a center fielder like that on their horizon. At all. Larry Lucchino is also addressed or asked about I should say whether or not. He wants to become commissioner and there was a presumption in the answer in the question that was asked of him. That Bud Selig. Approaching eighty years of age would be stepping down. Larry Lucchino as answer was pretty fascinating I thought first of all I wouldn't assume Lucchino said that Bud Selig is stepping down. At any time any soon may be this year or the next. -- -- will be the commissioner in 2150. -- even if he asked to. Get out of his own grave to do so now now he's I think that he might have kind of found the secret. The secret to longevity and -- and eternal life. Well it still fascinating because the question I tell -- he be suspended for PD's if he has indeed found -- I'm sure he'll be tested -- but anyway. -- the fact of the matter is. The name Larry Lucchino is going to be out there in terms of whether or not he's interest that he said today he loves -- is he has no interest in the job. Of being the mr. Major League Baseball. You're -- your reaction to that not surprised look Lucchino has done an extraordinary job in Boston at this point he has. He's been a he's been -- an essential part of three championship teams at this juncture. He's also 68 you know I -- so. That's probably not the state that's probably not be ideal age that you would identify for someone who's about to begin a new job that is meant to be a job. Not just for a year or two but instead you know in the case of Selig is now entering what you're nineteen exactly then why couldn't Larry. Take on the job. Well I don't think Vince you I would I don't think that they're -- they're a lot of people who plan on working. Past the age of 85 which is what your -- basically suggesting. Lucchino would be doing if you were to Stamford nineteen years. If you were to started now so I think that. He is pretty happy about his legacy is pretty secure look he got the most he's that he was the architect. Or at least he you know the orchestrator of the construction of the most important ballpark. In a modern baseball history. He was the he is now overseen a franchise. It has gone from one that couldn't win a World Series and 86 years to one that has three championships over the course of a ten seasons spam. So I think that. He's pretty comfortable with where he's that ends. As much as he is driven in his job and here remains remarkably energetic for everything that he does. To ask someone who's in you know -- at this stage of their life to uproot themselves in order to be the commissioner of Major League Baseball. Is is. That that's hard to fathom moreover whether or not he would have the support necessary to do it is another significant question because. As he acknowledged he's made enemy. And he's made friends and he's made enemies and he definitely acknowledged that so. That is essentially his acknowledgment that may be it indeed is not. The perfect fit for him. At this time let's move on field Alex and that the one name and one bigger name that's joining the Red Sox expected on Saturday after he arrives. Friday night hearing camp presumably Chris capture one of 35 year old. Veteran lefthander. I'm a native of West Springfield, Massachusetts. He is expected in camp you expect him John Carroll would seem to think to start in the bullpen. Absolutely. He would he would represented a kind of sixth starter depth option at the start of the season. He's pretty interesting because for the last three years. He's been a very credible starter he's been roughly. A 500 pitcher with an ERA right around for so a guy who's been. Who if you if you're a believer in the -- of the RA plus which measures ERA relative to the league. He's been about 10% worse than the average which is actually roughly what the Red Sox -- it didn't -- from Ryan Dempster. So he's available to them in that role as the depth starter but. Unlike Dempster where there was some question about precisely how he might -- in the bullpen -- Plano has had some pretty interesting success in the bullpen. And specifically in his career against left handers -- he's held to an on base percentage of lower than 300 this guy does a chance to be a pretty interesting. Left on left option or full inning option. At various stages of games who. Has who has a meaningful role whether he's in the rotation or the bullpen gives the Sox. Kind of dual layers of debt protection as a result. And also to give the Red Sox at least to start the season of the starters are healthy three lefties in the bullpen with Craig Breslow. And also Andrew Miller expected projected I would say it's safe to say at this point. To be on the roster absolutely and so you know the fact that -- is coming off of an intense workload that went through the post season the fact that Miller is working his way back from a half season. Means that having that third left in the mix -- is quite beneficial in terms of regulating the work loads of the other two guys. While the clouds are in the sky for the first time here at Red Sox spring training back. No clouds in terms of the perspective. And the approach to the Red Sox are all true it's all sunshine didn't you hear Larry Lucchino tell Dennis and Callahan and and tell us at the press conference. This is camp. Feel good it's camp good vibrations he's a big Beach Boys fans so that was his way of -- that. Yeah I mean there and look there are. It is but -- Spring training. Well almost every spring training tends to have the -- the tournament not a thing the fascinating thing is that the Red Sox. Have had the last two spring training as they were nightmares right or at least not nightmares Lester -- actually a very productive one for them. But one in which they had to kind of address this baggage of the past and in which they had a straight up this defensive posture. Obviously not so this here in fact one of the interesting things to me taxes that when John Carroll spoke. He was asked you know so what's what what stands out for you this here and he offered. One of John Carroll's you know papers in a word in -- in this case in a word trust. And I remember what it was like two years ago in 2012 and Bobby Valentine showed up here there was -- well he explicitly stated. This is going to be a difficult atmosphere in which to build trust in so. Did the two year life cycle of the Red Sox are you know the 24 month month cycle the Red Sox. Is a fascinating study in contrast but. Are there concerns yes let's not get carried away in kind of suggested this is the next big red machine right now -- Yes certainly. Certainly the Red Sox have more based fewer requests and that a lot of other teams in Major League Baseball at this stage. All right -- five is in the books he's Alex spear -- Mike betrayal yeah. From jetBlue park in Fort Myers, Florida WEEI. Dot com.