Nov 2, 2013|
Kirk and Rob wrap up parade coverage and look at the legacy of Red Sox slugger David Ortiz. Which moment of his numerous postseason performances is most memorable?
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On this little late race here yeah I don't know I'll tell you now on the -- -- think -- It's baseball -- on our number three -- and rob Bradford here that -- park -- There's nobody left I see people now taking pictures with. Tickets and I I realize that -- took more pitches people pitches Ortiz is no question is gone. Out you know sub point it was like screw it. No more pictures did not -- -- hate this I'm going home series is really going to have to go to my kiosk. Out streak this thing -- felt at fifty cents of every every dollar has got to test for the rest of his life this question -- talk about this week. -- John Jerry myself. We're over the -- I if you miss those days of the sort of you know really -- pitchers they've won here the century. Would you rank this among the most unlikely I would still put 2001 Patriots number one I'd put this number -- You go -- we were talking about that in the nest it's done. And initially I thought Patriots but then I think it's this one because. Takes a lot more. To do this than it does for the Patriots and this is such a longer season there's so many different things can go wrong. Over the courses -- did your best player not hurt the wrong time. -- with the Patriots I was a believable if you're asking me which was the the most shocking or got you most of motion from the community is still paid no question even more than 2004 Red Sox. I think I think people first vote for Red Sox were really. Yeah and they were great little mistake away from a pivotal win the World Series Marcus Florida did beat. The Yankees but that was held to Gerald loaded plus they added chilling -- going to -- those for a full Craig Gordon 2004. That team is expected if there were three teams and grocers I was one of those seven another good. And in 2004 you swept the Cardinals it was like you swept the whole way right and it was like -- Sun -- is one. With the Patriots is. You really didn't think they could actually in this whole lot they came -- five and eleven they were 02 they lost the one guy on the team you thought they could lose well they were also going up against enormous favorites. Right doses but you got to the Super Bowl I think people thought the Patriots can win. But I think the moment Bledsoe got hurt they were -- to looking to a 14313. I think what you got there to hear this was still licences were a surprising remarkable stunning. It's still a team a year couple months removed from 35. Under I mean I was still want out now I think week we didn't give it up proper credit. But different in the web -- -- nobody thought. Well here here's a come back the Patriots where I think the biggest thing when you look at widely elicit the most emotion. Was because what was the last Boston team to a championship he was 86 Celtics right so they asked -- something said for that right right. But yeah -- this. You're saying with 2011 middle years of the Red Sox are very very. The thirty games or 500. This was would -- be turned over roster. In large degree we don't. Pretty much yeah I mean he kept a lot of core guys old dusty kept the best hitter -- kept their best player I think you would say is Pedroia if not kept Ellsbury. You kept. Buchholz kept last so he kept sort of pour. You know you're right I mean you're right in charge and has done an unbelievable job I mean he can't he can nitpick but the closer stuff but he's done. An amazing job they got a great break from the Dodgers but you know take advantage great breaks in. Coach signing the best trees on his dues yet yet as I wrote I used to write for the site that -- the time. This. The best you write that just free agent signing it's such streak that is not the right I didn't I. That's not even -- caucuses there's nobody else who else who else you got. -- want Ortiz I don't count Ortiz why. Because. Think there's going to be any good sound flippant. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yeah but with Koji nobody they think coach used to be really good pitcher of the bullpen in a key part of this team when they signed -- pitched six innings on opening day. All that but do you think they thought it was going to be good of the patrons. I thought he thought he could be a pretty. Guy six or seven thing that you worry about -- Right -- they have higher expectations for Cogent 2013 Red Sox. That -- expertise in 2003. Who backed up Jeremy Giambi. It. It. That was still feeling out Ortiz but they didn't obviously he didn't think. He has so those that goes right -- the two -- like -- Manny. Or -- -- won a couple of championships she's she's Stubbs -- but that's fine. -- worked out that one right Welsh won. The that the with the Red Sox before. That Epstein all the great free agent signings -- the early days of free agency. What you title Bill Campbell guys like that we're gonna say all the guys ever Torres not great the eighties when they bring. Tony Perez. -- that big trade for Baylor. They did -- my keys -- right. You right in 86 he was a big free -- suburbs. Really the biggest. Yeah Jack Clark that was well -- -- fast -- one good year vertigo at social. I was -- vertigo. I've -- David -- I would say frank viola was not a great free agents -- -- now now. -- coach is right there you put Koji Ortiz and mainly also have to deal with you have to deal with if you win. This total another conversation speaking of Ortiz yet Ortiz whole thing. I woods. I didn't -- -- this if you're glad it didn't vote. If you have all the right guys in. And based on his numbers and -- in his postseason stuff now he now has to going. If you asked me two weeks ago so pistols and now. I think he's actually now dumb enough where if you're gonna be the guy you factor in the post them much I think you have to. I do it -- does that mean Schilling then I yeah I've I would vote Schilling. We knew I missed those columns of -- predict them all to get those. Negotiations it -- get there thank you -- what you for Ortiz you problems. I think you know and he guided them -- all of would you vote you can put them and you get a vote. Yet I I agree with the -- thing I agree with the ceiling. Conversation that you have to factor that and passed it really is. In this World Series is incredible for Ortiz we wouldn't even though he -- Marty Barrett stats getting thirteen. It's right well he can -- times that. It is the it is the greatest World Series performance by a Red Sox player ever. And now he's won three championships I think the conversation. Four -- becomes this is he. The second most important player in franchise history Williams my answer that I bought is all I answer yes I wanted was more important that. So why is it two all star right -- and I think Williams was such a great hitter his numbers are so amazing you have to put him. Number one but in the -- if steroids wanna throw that out right now put that aside. I think Ortiz moves ahead yet moves ahead yes it is. Second I -- -- yeah I think it franchises. And people leave just a better player. All around baseball player obviously means a great to -- You know the these people wanna hang on to 19670. That's where it turned around. And win right they've worn out three times Dave Ortiz. By the way as a court he yet indispensable player yes yes and that the Grand Slam. Is that the most dramatic moment in in team it's about life yes mr. history. Depth yes well at that time I would -- receive -- but they didn't win it the other way. Immune against Detroit the gap probably because I -- that you know when that series without it. Brian -- last -- it. And the last week you know as John Jerry that was support moment post season to me it's there's -- it's its first bite. My secretary acts I mean if he doesn't hit that home run. We're presuming. If Verlander is gonna be Lackey and they are not coming back foot only it was a Grand Slam down 51 after losing game one which -- the series is over right right they're gonna lose in five games. Games of course in any of succeeding in the World Series and we did nothing else in the CS. But that was the most important. I was in the World Series in the -- the World Series and in it it is surpasses risk because Fisk get into the next game write what you didn't win. This got into the next game and then you won yeah I have to be. I don't Callahan -- victory knows Grand Slam against Detroit series clincher but if and when that series anyway so maybe maybe not. Without at all when there's no chance answers separate that number one a -- David Ortiz questions on the -- your sixth -- seventh. 7797937. Let's go to usually first or island Jerry -- out what's up Jerry. They carry tiger I don't that I. -- -- Probably probably. Kind of a baseball -- -- listened -- -- like every bit larger game. But it was so what's on because in the beginning nobody thought about. This restaurant located particular play and Abdul waiting in the huddle and it was just for letting it but until a lot of home. It just looked at you know albeit old guy he's a tall order. So what's on Oglesby and I really wanted to thank -- bridge you can but I do practical point hump. And I -- to I -- really it is gonna open -- they would sign him and really care about the you know quite secure whatever. -- put your big gap that we came into the you know World Series in the player. That and they don't have that talk about it and now and all of the book the Clinton hit. I I would think maybe he didn't point because it wanna show that he could not want to get down the first baseline. You know what I mean he didn't want it. Chose that that he didn't have those skill anymore right maybe doubts that acted like yeah -- -- it -- wouldn't want to Cabrera ought to look at. -- Prince Fielder Cabrera we kept asking that so the report from Rosenthal rob was. Ellsbury arms opening -- the result I was it was it was baffling where. Who were all. About. Ten note I do like dead but also the flurry of Scott Boras client excuses. Did you think others are. I think I think the idea -- a lot of guys I think the idea that -- One I think it was reported dusters and beauties. Not tough in these away supports the which I thought is. I always thought. It was two fluke injuries and what I -- a big -- -- -- you guys tougher not like I think that's gone now and I think that. When you look at Ellsbury here in the last -- made the call a point before there has never been. A guy signed in his thirties Ellsbury is -- 3030. September. I got a hundred million dollar contract problem justify that contract in every day player missed theirs it's never happened put analysts -- million guys. Carlos Lee -- out Rodriguez and Ken Griffey junior. All these guys Josh -- tonight and -- is it never works. And we come back -- -- your guys are these guys with their peak I think you say are great players Ellsbury is not as good as any of those guys is peak. -- you -- very credit for coming back at it use year but -- to a year ago before. This isn't as though he did a very good it was a bit of an important part of the holes you absolutely. It was great for half is great for half that you know if it goes to Leicester conversation if that's all -- has to do. All all Ellsbury had to do this season was do what he did he do it right and he did speak on. All Leicester has to do next year. It beat you it does speak it right you know you'll have to do it didn't play if he goes -- if he goes to the unity with -- 34 ERA in there at such missed the playoffs he's home. Yeah its start 33 times against the Eagles were to order still fairly young UB 31 time that -- -- team to start a serious injury history -- seems like guarantee for something I think the Red Sox. Won't be that team it's two. -- to go Fall River I would rather go. -- you guys what's up. I don't know why there is an oppressed and -- say -- but -- Jacoby Ellsbury they don't hateful Pedroia. A little bit some people what I QB -- April quite a bit compared to what -- -- And -- that MVP season it is all that the production. Probably never got to be repeated. Just like Jacoby -- -- and all thirty all whatever they -- is big -- that won't be Pete. He he may not be and brought home -- I don't know but. Was able to moderate and Steve Steve -- -- give my 150 million dollars. I wouldn't give 150 million -- I don't know that anybody else's -- but we know we've -- -- the same thing not all of my. Each match that play that he's a nice play in -- go to bed at night. He's a very good -- -- get players Steve and I think that. You know I think. If on the Red Sox by offer my drop dead offers probably I go for years I was 64 win every one. I mean that's that's fine -- overpay by 10% for four years that's fine where you have to be careful. It goes back Josh Hamilton conversations last year. Which was. If you can make a move doesn't matter what you pay but if it prevents you from making a move that you want to make. That you can't do it but the position now where that should be the case right financially if you look -- right now yeah I'm just saying did you go through Victorino contract. When he side that didn't feel like that was -- hamstring them from going out and try to get Cliff Lee right or make him run it Josh Hamilton. That's where you have to be careful don't make the movie say that's it for us and all the Sun Bowl and that's -- with a lack. You sign Lackey now it's worked out for them this time Lackey and in some other guys come on the market probably be better or Cliff Lee was one of yet not right yet and so you're locked in Essen in nowhere to go. It was must have had this much financial flexibility Vegas last year Q but I mean it seems like. They kind of do is always Smart about ball the next next year they have financial fox Lackey. Don't know lack of Lackey drops down from -- They keep assures -- That's a five year deal he pitched. The city yes well he's an option yet to -- -- -- right so but you're you have you lose. -- use peavy used last year potentially right. -- -- -- wait a year away from Victorino you presume Ellsbury is gone too which is -- little more flexibility it's so you you've integrated Bogart's integrated Bradley junior. By that time you figured that the rotation you have a couple more steps started to. Buchholz is under the buckled contract. Is it's unbelievable. Is -- to be under contract for two through 2017. You can sit Wesley what you want about their ability but to have that type of pitcher. Under your control through 2017 at that rate. It's the same thing with Pedroia and toasty from Fall River dislike but but still you're not killing yourself. In a -- eight yards. It's not make it 23 now he's 38 buckles is one guy that I think a lot of people out there. Feel maybe not less then. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Question pressure to. The sparkles and you the kind of guy who carried through postseason roster yes yes but after it at the right. In the post he's so I don't know policies on May. That's yet to prove exactly but if you ask that question in June. Yes but but if you have a -- -- next year again in June nobody's gonna say oh he's death race this late yesterday at the same thing -- you brought you on some runs this year and everything else -- was rotation next year. Last well last Lackey. Lester Lackey -- brought up holes. So Dempster will be traded. Yeah you know I'll be surprised if if they flow PP. Because you'd trade you out of the team might get more for people in Dempster. Yes -- -- -- well it also is strong likelihood. That at the trade for peavy. Actually have a good enough you for all. So oh well that factors that you don't think it was offered them off. Six what 77797937. -- in the -- TDs of Bellingham all your calls them or we get back rob Bradford along with -- -- here Fenway Park. By the Fenway Park Turkmen and rob Bradford six what 7779793. -- we're here until 3 o'clock and then after us of course his -- Somebody. Probably by themselves and it was somebody else that we goes on next Greg. Boston and Johnson other after struggle aren't they -- mustered just say no. We've always won and you always wanted to on the basis. I have this run on the base yes I do with this on plane back medals. -- when you -- you're in sixteen miles and I did you in sixty -- beat the traffic beat the parking. Yeah. I looked at at nine you know me I am now 39 years old. I spent no time blocking it poet running for a third -- about that that's pervert you -- has -- -- I mean my way down there. I would never at that point but the women my age mechanism. Built a public figure that yeah you -- there's just a case -- what falls. A scenario that. Also you -- so obviously. I -- -- of those things where we you know you start and you race each other. You're probably underrated corporate tickets to you like Eric Davis. Yes a lot of people today I mean a lot. I think people compare him Magic Johnson but the Magic Johnson -- check it but it it. Imagine what the other way. -- -- go to Rick and Rick what's going off. I'm not too much as one -- -- point -- sure. Where guys are quite -- I know there's a lot of comparisons about. Could be the best in there. Weird sport radium bird. In this town Williams in baseball but. The one that what David Ortiz is at this point out who won three world championships. But he didn't have a lot the world and support ignored on the big stage like. Elway are far are pretty you're gonna -- him and. Well -- immediate penalized Brady forgetting so yeah. On the -- and land on. An up or Brady spent the five Ortiz spent three of the -- -- criticized. Pretty for being -- ones and -- be fair here about Ortiz who it is been a great hitter for this team. May very will get the hall of fame I don't know depending on what people think of this stuff. But David Ortiz. I mean Brady is one of the greatest quarterbacks in history. Ortiz is not one of those guys. We're talking -- portals here. You'll also -- Albert play most important. Close. Respect sports these plays in a hitter by. Do you value. Compared. Apples. He. Also interesting. World Series of the world's yours David Ortiz. -- It where one player. Carry them to victory. Ortiz -- the central figure of this year's pro -- with Lester yeah yeah yeah yeah secondly obviously if Ortiz. -- -- for the kind of -- that wins and the -- Eight times. Mean you need Griese. The -- -- -- the MVP for the other. Yeah Manny was not where Ortiz walk -- actually deserve that yet. And I mean there is no doubt Michael. Well but only because Davis let -- -- literature a -- -- You know -- -- the birth of that has that happened. What I get what are we going to read the book of the -- there's there's no way were. -- at the -- so. I -- write a book about the Red Sox. Ordered full pages on about this. It. Yeah. We -- -- beast of the hole which books the quicker off. It's going to be you're at the summit right Ortiz again all. These. Are the book Lugo. I think we get a higher love will be like ball for it day by day it's going to be like the -- And B well you'd -- our post game mark. Okay that's good and I think -- but it Japan. You have those globe girl oh these these. Those -- -- of -- But every back you -- sports team playing at the other guy. -- rule that was all it was out like Christmas right ankle he read it right. He's crazy. So the answers yes -- for the oh boy with a work and -- -- working to us. This story or two of our product. We -- the audio. Ought to go oriented. But he heated bolted. In. Morgan Freeman -- off. He -- isn't. What's up. They -- it. Yeah I was just wonder what you guys thought about -- they're all event this morning in this stadium but what. On the -- gone out on the field. I was an outrage. Wouldn't. Yeah I was upset about it like that -- -- upset about the -- -- what's going out in the pocket -- rubble -- left field. Right from the CVS I'll give -- that. Concerned about the whispering. We didn't. Raucous rock rocket people yourself it was pretty crazy. -- and I didn't seem to feel honestly honest at all last good -- finally have some ups and I have not seen the field worksheet. Is right now. Pocket right in his November what year. People second degree at times like it did donuts in the movie in -- morning you know -- -- for him but he soccer's popularity. This is. -- got to write a book the groundskeeper what's what's the what's the big deal looks fine I. -- playable right now shoot at worst condition. It's true -- look at look at them look at first base all the way out there you know to right field looks like regain her distraught and Joseph Wilcox Randall. Security was on us and did everything he demonstrated it every week not to mention now -- -- in. He started he started and now that. And look at Satterfield through your right. The course looks like the apocalypse steroids thank thank you for as -- -- naked woman that left -- take a picture that. Yes easily fitting so far apart. Let's do what Peter Carr -- Peter. Hey guys I gotta disagree with you about the Ortiz Grand Slam vs the Tigers I would submit that it's not not only did not the greatest postseason Red Sox yet. It's not even Ortiz -- greatest postseason red sock it. You gotta give it to go home run in game four against the Yankees because it's that it all of -- won the game. And it was against the Yankees and I'd -- looking from elimination because that was the start. That gave us that first series and quite. It's about the guitar but the how does the walk off the 2004. You gotta get that memento and I would need to get excited about this series because out that was the -- Davis that I -- and yet. Q was tied in the argument -- that definitely -- you have not all of run down you got to run down. You you hit a Grand Slam to tie the game your insulin. If if the Red Sox have won -- basics they didn't. They've won and 86 -- you put Henderson's home run but Ortiz. It was. Refresh my memory what did you grow up what you grow up I remember had a pretty high priced. I'm headed to cold front was the game either -- that courts were losing. -- Donnie Moore whatever happened. I. It. Real worldly now. It's a dumb question. But that was a great and that's it that's the -- keep him back with Ortiz won I would not have won five of Harry Hooper. Team to 1912. -- -- missed out stuff or 67 this generation people. Thought. I understand all of your young -- that point. You know you -- 1111. And in nineteen. Where you're gonna get 75 you're a but the fiscal know. Fourteen -- Negative. Are I don't idea it's. Five but people covers you can -- The 67. Red Sox want to find it hard to talk to see any six would be the best example for. Right yet so if they want in the first live it was a no -- there but didn't win 67. Write it -- I understand it 67. Was so beat because I'd won anything special law yet. That's made it so important -- the round nobody deceit and everything else. But -- -- the did not win players -- 67 rub is that group. Yes they do they were gonna get to 75 most of those court that. Yes you know 67 lead to -- of -- sixty -- 35 but it's probably happen and then it went away. When people talk about this team annals and quick to jump on one. Re world championships now nine years in. East is not -- this golf course I heard I heard. Assault and -- -- if you can't coming. Going to this year they've not won a playoff game for you Giants dynasty. These are just what they want to tie it. If they want what next year we can talk. But you can't go forty point 49 at eleven quality -- -- If they -- 69 games last year. You're eliminated from the congress. If they wanted to if -- -- -- team which I think Francona thinks the best teams in the book. If that team won a championship but awkward -- I think guys -- I think if you do you win consistently every single year. And you at least get into the car series in. The world next. Man this news. Four years with a three week it's just being good being like the Patriots -- dies out so. Just because they keep winning they went 1112 -- that bad years again. It's -- the the Yankees were done even though it took for -- Bartoli won again Mike is there every -- have years you can -- 03 years. Three years. Within went uplifting and nine they went three years ago make it right at 101112. To three years playoffs and -- -- Guys that -- Six or 7779. Seven under -- seven per minute proper effort by the Fenway Park. The parade is over we're still here a few minutes ago before -- OG ready. He turns on the rubber attitude to home so. Okay world champions. And the good thing. The World Series at Fenway for the first time in. Eight years. 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They were facing enjoy it there yes -- there Wizards in Compton and hand it seems like I don't beat those because of cellphones I understand but just to be able to make more frequently to see your picture moment right. Right right. Yet like anywhere about the public I would do yeah we could it seems like it's already done it it seems like an -- as a cell -- that we pictures used. You know what more you know when you use of your kids to right field that cellphones. Yes that's but I mean what what. Six years old. We look at -- picture so are on my phone for this season this season will be known for the world championships yet but the the fact that I got my picture taken with offering -- that is a fact somewhere that Anthony Weiner. It's that's -- -- that's brought celtics' health reasons I don't yeah I yes. Com. -- -- and analyze. The early yeah. Yup that's. You know hurt our chances -- I was that is it was a good. -- -- -- You miss that you missed that completely missed some -- weapons -- classic record wasn't a couple months ago. Well it was in the Georgia all thought Georgia I take a picture it now with a good -- the guys in the it was a Daily Telegraph -- -- -- them the best beer in the park. That job. That's -- That's what the question of you've you've you've heard our conversation about all of -- McGwire. Not the just banging into the kitchen German -- in your mind that the body double in and out after it. Twins -- rechargeable tickets to enjoy her all the time he must be insatiable there he must never one to right now he'd. They must really enjoy. With her physically. But it. Let's get back to the calls here and speak. Chris at New Hampshire what's going. Hello what's up. Oh and that's going really well W. Denigrated. I think you know contest on that little David Ortiz. -- -- there. Now with talked about that would have put the hopper and see what sticks. -- -- I don't know off. Don't know -- him in a contest was it means a with a these kids have people -- and then whoever says that the best. His favorite team target French army here and we both we both know he's an average on -- talked. He's elected he reminds me of another good so oh -- -- -- was that Bill Murray. Over the locked up with -- twelve -- -- -- talk about this year. While we're -- confidence. Support to. I guess that's it -- -- -- every day you'd show the broadcast Booth and that's true we're gonna handed over to -- -- professionals who can upgrade here as Greg mustard and Larry Johnson will take over thanks to rob. Doug plain bad kitchen went down there goddess who got almost you don't. It's nice to Jonny Gomes. Enjoy the rest Saturday and we get everybody -- Johnson up next W yeah.