Oct 27, 2013|
John Ryder looks at every angle of the game deciding obstruction call on Red Sox third baseman Will Middlebrooks. The call was a shocking ending to a game that had many questionable decisions and strategies. Can the Red Sox circle the wagons and even the series in Game 4?
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Boy what a way to -- it. They have seen that before this. In particular in the World Series. With a with a series chatted wanted to game three a you're not gonna like this. Here is -- -- like this information at all. Well the united most -- -- as most people listen to showed -- way that finished and I'm guessing the tone of the calls. Will be against that that called interference to decide World Series game -- -- Tough way we've seeds have tough finish a Red Sox fans of seized up finishers Aaron Boone we can go on and on -- -- This is brutal World Series united the other game three winner -- a World Series as one sixteen. Of the eighteen series this according to -- since 1969. So Norris or try to buck that trend you are not gonna -- too much here I wanna you're you have to say out there and receive full form lines let's get right to want. Here's a man forever it -- Hi John Cook -- -- that -- I don't need to be talked awful -- you know maybe -- call will be but. I just have to say I mean all the men in my fifties I haven't played baseball organized baseball with a seventy. I could have managed a better job of that and -- trial did tonight I mean the mistake he made were myriad. But at the end -- why not when he's gonna do a double switch bringing in David Ross the plea defense. Especially since Saltalamacchia. Has blown two games on the net defense and -- -- throwing. You could argue that not only in the ninth but nobody even earlier bring in very arise or you could even question Matt starting Ross you know it. I saw this yes I -- we are ready I forget allay talk that whole -- back forth the right. L I I saw something I read something and I can't remember where to repeat and so many different things but where. -- we're Ross -- and I know the -- a bike he's got peavy more. Led to in and peavy other than that early in the game of bounced back to Michigan out of a bases loaded jam granted you get the pitcher and other things but. Is -- RA would -- sketchy uses two runs assault -- Mike uses two runs higher the rosters but you could. You could argue Rossi was starting were definitely in that game and at some point. Oh yeah I -- and he hit better than not help you not talking market you know that could hit a patient barrel with that swing. But I want to the point I know the people going to be talking about the mistakes I just had to quick point I wanna make it to get on your other. Callers one is. He blew Felix can brought tonight didn't you -- that purity which could have kept the bullpen going you know maybe not. Have been you know forced him to overuse. Either work -- or. -- our. But then the. Well it did it would be I would think Dempster come in I would think they could still use. Do Bryant. Maybe for an inning any any wonder how much Workman will be able to go if they need to go to him and and even Franklin Morales might be in the mix to -- people who wanna hear that but. The second part one -- which no one on the television coverage is -- Why in God's name when it a Beltran would be you know he is -- -- -- hitting -- would like he made no you know. I -- -- well first before that. You know I wanted to answered abroad thing I don't like going to no I can understand. That situation because. He he was up in the seventh inning remember he was due up to the top of the seventh that pitcher Jonny Gomes and that's why eating lobster from the bottom of the seventh. Lopez led by you can if you can't. Today -- later on why why not pinch -- to Napoli for workmen to Aurora. Like opening up pandora's box of areas but he took I don't think this final -- they give the calls you on that and thank you for taking this but you Papa I want to make. Why did he not a lot in protest Beltran. The point the Nolan brought up as well with David Ortiz talked to -- I have a -- excuse me I don't think he would be encouraged as we know we don't get on the. The southeastern Massachusetts that Philly we ride it. He'll be people on call yet but that part of you touched on the what David Ortiz. Talking to Beltran about because daddy heated argument and I think to myself why didn't suffer I'll go out. And we can get the umpire can make that decision on what he did that he made no attempt. To get away from that throw in an otherwise I would. I don't leaves you know that's true -- right at it at -- to make Jon -- -- real quick at some time in the game. I'd love to see them put a ball right into Beltran -- All right well to wanna get you know it. There's good times -- it -- we've seen this not only uses. You know Cardinals to I would Beltran but but there's been times that that was the case would victory donated by the pitch amend that. Would be tough for -- got a way we've seen him just beyond not move we've seen that plenty in Major League Baseball these days. Our right to opt out continuing your phone -- as he lined up here but here's will middle Brooks. That we just got in the locker. -- Obstruction obviously. Had to dive for the ball falls pretty inside. -- -- As the original series so. You know Rondo for a dive for the ball there there endorsement ago go to get -- -- on top of me so. To a new orphanage there. So. I don't know it's tough. For. Us -- -- I was gonna -- myself well. And a -- it didn't matter. -- me you know I just I'm not. I thought process from Armas so. I don't know I don't agree that he. You know suffering say I don't know how does not done I have to dive for a ball. I'm on the ground and there's -- there's nowhere for me to go through. Don't pencil and I have to dive for the ball. -- Now we have talked but it just commend. You expect -- through did I was there. And though it is that I had to go down -- and it into the -- and just. I don't know. And mr. Monaco was meant. Or did you know I get an explanation. Well I was excited at first as we know we know to go home and though the answer was called first so. Four summer in the home plate. You know massive -- and and to go play it because that's who we thought with the -- list and no we didn't think there's an infinite the -- -- there I was -- of the -- based on had to dive for. As I'm getting up to troops overran. I'm a little -- the freedoms and if you personally. So that's Elvis that's the -- -- runs in the minutes -- -- -- -- produce it's pretty tough like that the way of club back. Against good pitching and that's that's -- something I don't. When I'm happy about it. Yet you guys but. And we always do well is to win and what to do about so it was good to ready for tomorrow. Both teams have shown -- job of bouncing back. The Cardinals definitely did. We'll see if the Red Sox can they haven't yet. After the game two loss not a game three loss this heated war more crushing negated -- any loss is tough for the World Series. Why did anyone ask him if he intended and -- -- here from the they get screamed about Melbourne spirited no one asked to -- did you intentionally. Mean to obstruct him. On that play into announced that it that some might ask him. That oddity is potentially kick your leg at -- that's that's tough because you -- display over and over it there's really no right answered whether. You know he. Couldn't get out of the way whatsoever whether he tried to impede Craig there. Would it would kick in his leg up I -- laid for a break I see full form wise I'll get to your calls will also have John Farrell and it what he had to say the media will become an up. Oh laughter one. As I roll on until 2 o'clock we'll have rob Bradford before the show's over -- run of the program from Saint Louis but. I'll be of Soria and will get right back to calls after this break. Here's the pitch and he swings -- ground behind -- that I think that it's not. -- line into the corner can't produce cars they'll try that Barrett he's going to score though is that proud of them might wait till my. The way holiday goes to third. -- -- Cardinals. Voice of my -- -- except here and I see try to get through as much of that and your phone calls as well and coming up. So many people and holed it for awhile here. I'll get to a couple calls in end Jared Saltalamacchia. When he had to say. On that controversial finish here's David in Salem -- David. They -- and go right did you. Let's let this whole year. The Red Sox have prided themselves on one thing -- felt was let's not gotten any calls Andy hits. Any anything that happened tonight. If if you can't put this behind you and come back. And neither team that you are. That you're not the team we thought you were anyway if you I guess I guarantee you these guys. Don't think about this. There were down 21 all you do -- still want -- and he's still two away it is similar to -- 122. And your ace goes up against their race and you win you come actually to work up all year we've heard this team but not worry about the game before. And what happened so we're about we're about to see that usually get it here and complain. All we want. But the game is over it's decided. We're. Don't you -- yeah well I mean I can understand people wanted to talk about it not I period gave thanks to the called they've they've been extremely resilient. This season. It bouncing back now they -- bounce back here he gave three it was a wild game three chaotic finish. Two game theory we'll see if they put it out of the real question is what will buckles give them in the rest of the pitching staff tomorrow -- -- that they'll be able put this behind them it's more. You know what what can -- Colts give them you know a much less than a 100% buckles in game four here's David West Palm Beach -- David. Yeah. Capital letters all paid for it -- our. Yeah this must be your finest hour David -- Farrell was that some mistakes. I mean you beat up on the bench now -- want to pinch. Hit it -- the -- and ultimately. Get to do. -- in the inning when they don't want it -- -- Out. I would have pinch hit the -- And then. Coming through -- comedy -- that I -- it. I outlaw everything pretty much did that could garage and pretty much did go wrong with the one exception Metheny helped out a little bit. I don't like go to. It was demand is there that turned out or around who delivers the base -- -- tied it -- I know that seems like an eternity ago right here is Jared Saltalamacchia what he had to say on the call. And explained to me explain -- to do on. And I guess at the time I I didn't see it no matter what you read. You know so Phil. Yeah it was it was a play you know for -- -- for two. So Q so what's -- -- -- Fleming from us so. You know will was playing on stomach. You know he'd. That through his head but it meeting with his body -- and try and jump out of the way just laid down a stomach. You know ways was on the inside part of the base. And try to jump over. You know on trips. So that's obstructions. Laying on the ground and it means the Sixers game. -- definitely it was. Yeah I mean you know you don't wanna lose. And I have to have the -- I don't know that the rule book says. So the rule book says that's obstruction and then -- -- you -- you walk off field and in particular command. But I don't tone of the rule book. With. Great dignity but. As a during game you -- -- that. All of all the pitchers did on -- job we've we've learned a lot of ourselves we went out there and they're -- me two bases loaded no -- get out of it you know he really bounced back from the first thing. You know they just found a way in the end to do. Hopefully. It's great that -- do you can see. It created. Yeah I mean he's he's not been running well obviously see you that he's not going to be speed and end. You're taught to make the tag in and look so it made the -- on. And looked up song that he was nowhere near thirtieth halfway there so Tim made a thorough. You know for an office and in -- and it -- slow. Garrett Willis -- every field. Is supposed to. Speak. I mean I promise you one thing we're not gonna come back tomorrow thinking about tonight's game. You know we're gonna come back tomorrow we're about we do tomorrow so we've done all year long and. Plus change now. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But better that there is a game tomorrow night just give you get right back to it than those sit knotted for the gators so. Tried to labor break yet again but a lot. We'll after the break you right catcher calls will also have John Farrell and his press conference will do that up next that's right John -- we're red zags are VOA as we roll line I'll knock -- but -- -- to -- How will get to it a couple of phone calls a couple of text messages -- so many of those commitment. They'll get you back to Saint Louis for John Farrell's press conference that we'll get back to the cause. So for a step back to the calls we go here's Philip demanded a -- Hey John -- and hang in -- our youth. All sorts of Marshall looking back -- booster -- count this Beckham -- soon yeah. I've I've I I knew those. References would be coming up through some different references boy did on some played both so far this series and no more than so than tonight. On John assembly. I think -- the thing is patrol on the. Yeah that that's where it starts amid the Saltalamacchia bad throw I can understand why he threw at some people are saying. Phillip B should held it there -- -- you got a shot at him at third. I was at the last game at Fenway Park before they went to Saint Louis and even warm -- and so on the ball. Not even reaching second bases on a bounce the original between innings and some occasional. Look -- -- -- -- the Adam losers yeah. The thing is also it would seem that when you -- America -- to a National League strategy. Between the managers yes. Saint Louis so little bit better than of course -- essentially it's reasonable course he'd. The relief pitching we we don't sit dead -- -- -- You'd better. A you -- -- be still -- great series and I was upset I was to the umpires Joseph Torre. In to get together and maybe change that rule no approximately John would need to stay on the he got to be kidding me umpires should win the game should be pleased to meet common sense was equal to get out away. Even if he got up there. I think you know -- -- interfering Greg as well what I could understand the press -- -- well from the -- who played the post game show was -- -- never heard the the runners create their -- baseline never -- it's a little bit. But the other thing I -- I wonder field that you would take David Ross would be -- -- you know Saltalamacchia is cut the bulk of -- distorts. You you wonder if Saltalamacchia starts the game and Ross comes in once once -- has done really submit some fascinated decisions again for tomorrow for John Farrell. Or rugby and then of course we use the -- tonight and I thought earlier today you know regional talking to people. That if you would maybe goal with four. Quite putting goal but 23 innings whatever I mean strategy change bring him or else tomorrow what do we need to get. Out Dempster. Dempster is probably there and I still think a lot on the I'm not you know. Bryant give them another inning and I think he could probably get another inning I would think. You know tonight he he ends up going. 25 pitchers. Right John tomorrow you know when I know what it is a teaching but -- huge. One out of three get a stepped up and wait. In critical six and seven I like our chances are the thing is very unfortunate but again the DH Jon Evan not Ortiz and and -- Or are you and -- and interest and thanks for the call Phillip has always -- but to he had Napoli taking some ground years and it's horrid before the game I never thought I -- Heard about that. And that that was during the pregame I guess didn't go too well here's Kyle in mission -- he Kyle. Page won -- major but -- pay that our -- -- accurately R&D com free anywhere on line. But until I don't think there's Craig ever post own plea. I've had a few -- in there let's but dead you know win the call being what it was. It's pretty much academic. -- I think corporate all right no no problem injury has at some point I'd -- I'll continue I icu waiting patiently appear on the full lines Brandon -- Europe next. But here's judge John Farrell what he had to say after this excruciating loss. And what was your argument to the umpires and what -- you told. Well. He he was awarded home plate. After the obstruction call third base. Tough way to have a game and particularly the significance when you don't -- trying to dive incited to stop the throw them. I don't know how he gets out of the way when he's lying on the ground and when Craig trips over. I guess by the letter of the rule you can you could say it's obstruction but. -- -- said let's talk -- wall. Talked about. I decided yeah opportunities when you order or not he's Napoli especially in the night knowing that brand was coming out of -- not have a whole another inning and left him. The -- -- you know hindsight probably should double switch right there with after softening and a final out the previous inning with. Work we come into the game. Felt like. If we get into an extended situation which that game was looking like it was going to. You know -- held map back. In the event. That's spot came up again. I guess in hindsight. Having Workman. Hit against -- -- a mismatch recognize it. But we needed more than one inning and work -- Know. What porosity catch. Right here in front. Jonathan can review a play one more time. Did. -- to me make even -- a call on contracts -- was the interference already ruled at that point and -- -- sort of called interference. And and basically it and awarded him home plate. So the play in as far there was no play at the plate period. Not at the point -- the play continues but. We've thrown Craig got to the plate. But he was -- home plate after Jim judge awarded him home with the inference call. Obstruction -- couple more. Came right over here. John Stevens you had another couple strikeouts this he's still salt in -- -- -- -- for orderly we have David that we would just walked off the field I haven't thought about it. -- -- With Saltalamacchia rate to make that attempt to throw down the third base to get shot out of. To bang bang play. You know as it turns out we. We we are forced a couple throws at third base that have been a proven costly. Tonight was a costly throw. Or more here. John if you would also comment first on Jake Peavy and second off until Kelly and if you felt. That maybe there were fewer opportunities for you guys that may be just sort of left on the bases tonight yes -- -- regards to that. Yeah. I thought Jake you know he gave us everything he had you know they they came out this one about. Right out of the shoot against some for the four base hits and -- in the first inning but. In a bases loaded nobody out situation that forced him in a number of big pitches to get out of it without any additional runs given up. You know I thought in the third and fourth inning we started to get some opportunities. That you know he's got great stuff he's got a tremendous arm. And yet you know we didn't have a whole lot of opportunities that we were building. But when we did you know they and they found a way to make a pitch and and keep. Keep us off the board until we're able to chip through with -- was manner you know it with a triple later on. But to just I thought a hard fought game and you know -- -- back out here tomorrow night. -- -- that that you have a chance to review. -- the play on video and when you say couldn't get out of the way it looks like he also raised his legs up a timer to. In the you know while it was on the ground. Yeah I have seen it's I'm. Like I can't say the legs are being raised in an effort to impede his progress. Boats. You know and again it's. It's a tough would have a game and he's on the ground the tees they'll be tries to raise up then he's clearly getting in his way. You know -- for Craig to try to advance -- -- but you know they get tangled up with the men and that was the call. One less fun if there's anything. And. -- the microphone. The fact that it was Craig coming home does that. Make bogey -- marked the fact that he's running with their approach. Just one when John -- to -- You ended up obviously using you are there when when -- on. Let's John Farrell at his -- press conference after the game you know I. I wonder if will never get the answer to this either way whether middle Brooks in and it was good question. For more of that report awards where there. Middle -- put his legs up a couple times was just Bob and was he trying to trip up Gregor not or is that just natural. You know I played in that you'll never know. From middle bricks -- will also never know I wonder of Jim Joyce that plated into him call -- obstruction. Whether or not. Let's. A couple of text messages and and then we'll take column we gonna get to a breaking gambit -- Techsters his -- needed to watch Jay in a ninth native -- Napoli for Workman bad game for the Sox manager. You questioned. The pitcher's spot due up and already some pitchers and players used. After Saint Louis they didn't have too much coming off the bench that's my response to the taxed so yeah I can be dead argument. Of course and wants -- fired. This is Carroll leads to be fired for losing this series -- series isn't over yet and -- tough one tonight. No question but -- candidates -- dramatic. Another -- I felt compelled to give mavs -- to the final call it was clear from press conference that the umpires defensive on the call a couple of the consistencies. George said the ball went straight through this guy goes on and on. Usage Joyce said Craig was right on the track he wasn't he definitely wasn't there I agree with it and it -- it's a book this -- texted -- but thanks -- the next. I'll get to some more of these as they continue to flow in but here's Brian and Corey Bryant. -- eleven event no problem. Aides say first of all -- Cooley to blame credit lost. Why he doesn't include assault the two weeks striking out left and right I don't know and then let the work we get this course career. That in in the top of the ninth with one out in the World Series that also which opened -- You we are -- should only go at least five out that it not. You gotta you gotta play the wind -- it throughout the score on. Annual and that guy get his first Major League at bat that. He had no idea of I was surprised at that news and then he faces here is he sees straddling him -- and an Easter. -- on Adams gives up the bully and a bloop single but yet you could've. Definitely pinch hit the air and no question I was wondering about that I died about that more than anything. On everything that could go wrong did go -- he ends up hit pitching. Finishing up the go wrong if it's a battle all. An -- ball in the ball that help you -- -- to being not yet caught the collapse in right while the doubles -- and and not you know met all the or -- Or -- you don't explode at third base nannies have been tough the way it should have been in this game because -- at a local market. Been -- and too light they can look at it historically bad call me on the first I Armando Galarraga and it. It absorb your choke I mean everything that happen -- particular. You -- and then and then and how little Brooks Gil why he shouldn't knock on the ball that let the double. Well that that's another point tonight he. You know as it would have been a tough play but it's it's still make double play extra hop on the holiday to on the holiday double. And you've yet to you know he egos for the pinch hitter in mid in middle bricks that Dan. These defense of problems after truth -- the game -- its incredible. It in and even with the Ortiz at first and -- and -- -- and a bouncer there there where there was an error. Or actually wasn't called and errors an infield hit it. But yeah this -- just this is tough one like you know everyone's gonna talk and focus on the call and I understand that Brian but there was a lot of mistakes leading up to that well first of all the Saltalamacchia throw was a terrible throw to third. And the decision making -- previous to that by Farrell plenty of the decisions that probably should have gone the other way. -- -- -- -- I you know domicile like and then he can be great in the regular speed -- quote but it certainly get. Outcome but I mean how much experience does he have in the post seasons for score around as via World Series manager -- -- is a little more to track record with -- -- -- to 6177. Settle Algerian Worcester is the -- forever -- Jerry. Yeah I don't this all right or you the -- I would regret not. Is -- and -- don't Witten by the sword and if they diet that it -- by the sword and not what the final play the game. It'll make any matter that this -- and it probably -- of the day probably on the rest of the irony but you know children don't eat eat a little -- Think this is is this David West Palm Beach calling back under a different name. -- That sounds a lot like. And I have a good. And I have a sense of like a detective with these things. It. -- I will do -- will roll on here and get to Morey calls also continue to get you back to Saint Louis for some reaction from some of the David Ortiz Jake Peavy and and we might hear from rob Bradford before you. Exit here at 2 o'clock so will roll on after this break. Well when though when the play developed after. It's all the markets to -- third base. After the ball head on straight through and Allen had slipped in the third and stood up. To attempt to -- to home plate. Early was off right there and when he tried to. Advance the home plate -- he wrote for the error and he tripped over. No -- right there and immediately. And institutionally I'd call obstruction. The third base umpire Jim Joyce on the a controversial. Obstruction call. Tonight which led to the Cardinals winning game three is 82 games to -- seriously with a 54 victory -- a bag with the utterance I interview and I'll continue with your phone calls. And continue to gain it back to Saint Louis for civil for what would some of the Red Sox players' heads that maybe even Saint Louis manager Mike Metheny bit. First from Saint Louis. The one and only the incredible rob Bradford man of the people WEEI dot com ad Brad -- rob. Your thoughts on how this finish was it was that the right call should be made that call Jim Joyce. Well I did Hawaii you really call a game because he -- a runner trip over a guy who treat you like. But the problem I I would be -- what you're played a little -- -- good -- -- toward the -- -- that. Yeah you're out of the way they're -- responsibility do you get out of the way baker so predictable the runner. We're we're -- for a ball that could not physically possible you know because it. There's a lot of opposite like a lot of people or say after the game in terms of wandering. All content to contain you feel that way you'll want to -- Why -- Illegal about it perhaps -- understand that the -- debate -- trying to create or yellow. -- I thought that was kind of odd to say I mean I understand what they're saying when the rounding second and I understand that but. Yeah my dealer and -- you figured -- according to look for me I would have to look closer to a but he slipped back -- birdie and cup. Overall obviously over towards second but because they didn't move at all that way and you got to recharge hurt. So I would not do a goal that again I'm not quite peacefully and they're a little bit too much followed come back to a good. -- explanation that it certainly -- upbeat about the way. They're as good. Almost all the Danny yeah well yeah -- rather than if he gets out that he's interfering as well so it's -- -- there's only 13 baseman of the world nickel we'll themselves invisible in this Wade Boggs so. Did this. Yeah I had to him he said it's -- but to the out -- like there was so many different breakdowns and is and what. You know even before that. He can't throw at all that oval brawl. -- yeah like this certainly. Yes I know I was I was just gonna say RA you know ever it's going to be and they have been so four on -- was mostly but. Concentrating on and and on and on tell export volumes but there was. Right a bad throw by Saltalamacchia. And this game was mismanaged in fact. You could you could say or and I'd like to hear thoughts on that weather was -- wasn't some some instances but he fifth. Metheny Brady administered to have that now about batting left handed so there was some it's -- decisions are both sides and I. Yeah grip or you have a lot of people focused on health point of view. If not patiently worked yeah in awe agree you know I do that that that -- -- -- value pick hitters. And that he took you could a guy who recruit along pretty well Dubai now those by the -- wanna go play that way and it gave away the crew guys getting pretty quick. By you know he. Respect you're going to be in pretty quick you're not doing that you're here and for -- it turned out to be just one well. So all of the problems no doubt about it in. -- Carcillo that saw all of -- at least straight game yeah even more -- extreme an edge. Yeah and and just tell me what I gave it was with a Red Sox battling back the way they did in in tie the game on two different occasions that it was just that. Now everything in and carols at the -- status -- this season the Red Sox have been incredible we know that from follow and cover the deep all season rob but. Boy you know he he pinch hits middle Broxton and he's at third base you get to. You know Saltalamacchia still in there and and an idea what we weren't discuss with your colleague animated myself for the pregame show -- spear. Whether -- should be starting or not but he could probably wonder if you've been in there at some point defensively so. There was a lot of different things that just happy about it we're really was. A crazy one. Yeah Oriole and figure out a lot in value imagine he could play tomorrow I don't think you'd get some guys were struggling so much and help too much to be wanna call. I if you look at the late game I'd trade it for that. I look I like you can go to jail like a great coach he had -- -- out of it but he could double switch there. It worked for the accurate figure all the good work -- because the pitcher spot the country yet. You know that each -- but he got -- good form so it didn't get it out. And it was now or do you think gave measure arise who think he'll be of their schedule what do you think happens. But what do you think she should have been some other I guess the other. He decision as whether Stephen Drew is a shortstop or not tomorrow. Yeah I mean I I. Think you -- the portly Brewers used -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I guess what -- at the replay and yeah I'll I'll go via the final play there. If you look at it he doesn't make it step towards that he does yeah it may wind up towards second. Which I guess -- might be splitting hairs but we know what could play over and over and over -- but go back spiritual question who can play tomorrow. Children who looks a lot of play I know 202 where. You don't replace him but it didn't make it -- probably would have made. I did you go to school lunch here and it broke guard now that's where a little bit play shortstop Ian played in awhile. So I'd -- if indeed make a little bit and I'll talk about Mike Napoli worked out it. You know working out at third is all there is no way I. Typically they did did that I mean I know. Horry Horry gave some thoughts I know it's still a pregame so I guess he did but I'm surprised I could imagine that I easily put what two games in single -- there. In his profession has started. Got a hundred fail -- -- get to that point. I didn't either we how important defense is rated recruit why. And we saw even though -- another -- -- it was a little little booklet people come up all come alive. Yeah I don't know holiday yeah right I mean it wasn't a routine play but. Again -- welcome you -- your. Now. Now he was a dive but that was what I've mentioned tubby just everything he comes in and then he's in there at third base and then that happens who knows -- -- of -- was still there I mean just a number of different things that lastly rob and in back to the controversial play. I wonder did I stated I wonder if you know will never know the answer to this and it wasn't as to will -- expert. Whether you intentionally. Keep his legs or was that natural and I wonder how much that played in two. Would what is lesbian up late dad after he put into the ground and then when Greg was you know capacity there whether that played in Detroit Joyce's decision -- I -- -- -- I think yeah I think they're. Because -- easily kicked -- like that you're due to react to what -- trying to prepare by the and it if you would reject and by the time he tripped over him. It's impolite -- flat on the ground. You might think you're ripped open extra credit and actually probably. I -- a big advocate it's like three actually not an actual actually to a -- up like that but it. But after all okay you know I don't current age and I don't -- all over the place but -- -- -- all it -- people people wrote out. All the children's series and another one -- -- -- does it help got to look at the way look where or equity umpire is looking. And the initial contact is paid you what yeah so it just -- -- -- doubt play. Which if you where it will break out -- European ought to talk radio due tomorrow yup a year at. Lot has been and -- with the -- already here in the you know and. Yeah I thought realized we're magical called dinosaurs. -- you know it is you can't put an end and with that Ole ego but to the it's it's it's that. What was the book coming -- Robby guys so we'll have a field day at WEEI dot com that back into the last a minute that the recruitment. Could this type of stuff at least. Allah experience they get in on that entire way he'll do a pretty solid. I would hope eulogy yet I don't Wear a little from the year by you I'll do that -- -- to call one record to a day. Why are you are put up starting job of that so what do you expect access and I figured I saw the past couple played World Series history. -- well they're total uncle who. We will open it up double play it. Are you have a little one a playback Pedroia -- would have bit. And then and then throw by -- as well. Yeah. Eric is obviously upset about. I happened to. And he says you know archeology call appointed -- I've. Yeah save it for the show would get that audio around. That as you say seventy to show what we do shows together and -- through the commercial breaks and I Dario yeah. I'm my friend it enjoys -- enjoyed Alou. Outside and I I also -- to where they Kirov rob Bradford WEEI dot com -- -- let's -- -- -- -- wait forever old Seabrook a shot. I was going to -- -- -- thirty -- umpire. And destruction was the right call. And and by the way that I was -- a lot. Now before callers said that you at home plate which you did you said it's academic. Thing it's actually not. Islam. I'm sure he has some sure that he touched and I I didn't see it done no I don't -- to play with. He's he's -- there any stammering and he picked it up and Downey but it's right next don't play and it came grab -- picking up my kick -- so. It's never detailed visual evidence that he touched -- Actually you know what I'm watching said the right now is get the tip of his -- on on the edge of the plate there. Not next to it and I'm not likely to ten times already that I would McCullough I didn't look at epidemic but he didn't touch on Blake broke it he didn't. Saltalamacchia in the heat of the moment did they have obstruction rarely ever called that no one knows what to. The first time. It's a post season game -- ever ended this way. I was never happened but it even and awarded -- the runner is obligated to touch the base and can you put out -- guilty doesn't touch the base which I think. If we let the areas Saltalamacchia couldn't show beyond that. You know looking at the plate so -- -- And like drink and then there's the guy on first is basically the outfield the runner misses second goes to third the throw -- into the stands on the -- the runner the umpire worked and third or whatever. In a -- all the all the result -- couldn't play the runners still obligated to go back in touch second when he missed that and then he can go to third which is awarded. So -- basis and you want magic get to -- you still have to touch the base. I think he never touched that I think -- ducks had the opportunity to put him out. It's very tough because immediately -- The -- united on how well medically it would -- play the well in the heat of the moment people are concentrating on that there either you know -- going out to argue with the arms and everyone's on Firestone World Series. -- that the application of the rule people you know. Hit it right never happen it's crazy that this happened but you know obstruction happened all the time -- it's never called. So it didn't matter you're saying what -- third -- -- -- Joyce Littel look at the plate in the first obstruction happened but when you put selected George is looking right at any point that it yeah that's what. -- well and and I understand the call shot and I mean I I do understand -- I takes. That extra check and. You feel good to me -- going rumblings that the greatest mother's a diving play throwing home plate at the plate he Texan don't. To a third and a. It's it's. And you know maybe interference. It's. -- there. They -- -- on the run to score. And the ball game will be over that's not a World Series game three Orlando. Incredible incredible let's get your reaction. To what everyone and I mean there's so many different things this game -- Felt like four games in one and -- game three years there Richard and charity Richard. Eight. Two things that I wanted to mention I want to the touch on the umpiring error incident that the game prematurely. I don't know what the consulate -- again but certainly and that the game before it should have. But first I want to -- mentioned. How much richer. More enjoyable. More substantive became -- without the DH rules look at how much we have -- -- talk about about it it's unfortunate that we do well managed. But it was a much richer much more enjoyable game without the DH -- And it's like I'd I'd like to DH. Course have grown up watching American league baseball on from this area. I I can understand your point tonight because there's so many different with a double switches everything that happens at a National League game but. I enjoyed it definitely. You know I thought they really appreciated that put the system he's a wonderful at certain affinity. I'm a book on him I am pushing sixty years now. I remember before the with the DH role at me in the American right. -- -- them much more enjoyable game. It's I would like to he would go. Yeah and I can understand that you know on the might of my thirties and I was or I mean the whole time I've watched baseball admitted DH in the yet. In the American League cy like in and I understand that and you know people led. Rob watching nationally baseball whatever their ages. Liking the fact that there's no DH. Yeah well you know big -- for example these incredible athletes and it's just step closer to what you now they're doing what he does but it's not really baseball. Anyways getting to be a premature end of the game it's irrelevant what middle Burke was doing with a flag. Because it's very clear if you look at the replays of the replay that's right down the left field line Mitchell that very clearly. That. Choice but it's -- testimony did not see what Wrigley can happen. He -- he said he thought Craig on the -- Chris -- -- was not on the track he was not on the shut him in the. Third base. He got up and he needed at least one step it's not too in the direction of second base and then try to run all the middle brought. Yeah an analyst Nobel institute looked like action late inning -- that that with the current number one. The second -- was made at home plate because the Cowboys placed on Craig. Craig was a bit but bird at that point he weapon how to equate. He had never gone back in -- thirty -- -- went after the second short cut around third. He without its third when I went and helped put the pads on them but -- -- look they look. It'd be interesting next year if if this ever happens. That hey if they can challenge a play like that. It's going to be another interesting facet. Those rules haven't it's meant to but there will be challenges of critic -- Brian in Los Angeles say Brian. -- -- -- Much at all and Brian Barton added an umpire or out of years and I actually at the back in it happen -- Williams wire -- But I think -- -- umpire. I need to do or minor league games and Little League game that started it. I'm thinking that I'm talking about that I can't see everything that result of the game between the bombers in the battle. And look what happened. Is -- the ball goes past him he got away. You can't just lay there and do nothing is sort of -- by you and -- a -- that runner a base. That that is true if the runner dead and look where that all got and he automatically out. Book although what happened the bulk -- And people were saying that you know it all in all incident shocked that's not true he did and what -- -- slid into third. No it says people are saying as referring to -- not about that Brian it's referring to Jim Joyce's comments that he was. Right on the track kiwi was a right on the shot Greg. In the baseline. Well I. Well he was still on the baseline and he was in the baseline he was it wasn't like he was a one and on the on the grass. It was more -- choices comments that he was right on the baseline. Old you wouldn't comment you know the guy tripped over -- interfered and Al. Well look you know we get no umpires here from wherever you know calling up and everything else all right here's says. There's here's David Ortiz and what he had this. -- some of the guys running. I think. It's been -- drummer Justin Wilson disposal and then yeah. It's -- I've been advised by the coming in here I gave -- enough. Put together say good. But coming from don't. -- is to -- let's will get a couple calls before exit here's Joseph -- a joke. -- -- -- I notorious around you. Good -- -- taken the call believe how many people are like last gentleman called and said he was an umpire -- -- used to wrong term lease an interference. Interference has nothing to do that. Now any official I mean it's obstruction or in two appearances in any Major League and the ML on mlb.com of their box score -- -- says -- interference so. Yeltsin who runs. The personal stole my underwear this year you've been there and that's Saint Louis because. I was calling to say that if you watched the replay you clearly see that. One middle books the ball to -- all get to third base at the same place in the ball goes out toward left field middle books felt towards second. The runner stepped up the base -- fell off the based what the second base side and when he landed on his person what his second foot came off the base. I've seen guys at the professional level although. For failing to retake the base for the very same thing and he came straight in from there. So he missed third even though he -- wants he backed up toward second he can straighten that. He made he made a move towards second it was a minor step and then yeah. It doesn't matter we had a guy last year I think goes on the Red Sox I think it might have been nine Ellsbury he was trying to tag up. He was at second base. Fly ball. He headed toward third because he wasn't sure there was going to be caught or not he didn't to us. Traditional tag up lead stand the way he had to go back -- the pace and when he did he slid off putt on the first base side. Straight -- put the right field side. When he ran back to third he did not -- -- second and they called him up for the. Evan it was so it was not I've watched his replay and our budget times -- he can't he didn't make it dramatic deterrent towards those second base do it. You know I knew it wasn't even much of a move toward second he was looking at the ball behind him. I think if middle Brooks had noticed that and -- appeal third base that he -- Then at the very worst on the obstruction they would've -- and third because if you look up obstruction. The the penalty for obstructing -- that the runner gets the base to which he was advancing well if he was retreating towards second even -- was only. Now I think he Republicans were the ball was there -- It and and we haven't heard of that but an Allen Craig might be her thanks for the call Joseph Allen Craig my Pia -- as well. -- is the deal and of course with a foot injury wonderfully Libya planned. All right where we ran out of time I appreciate your patience sorry couldn't get to all the calls. But to go well -- -- wall to wall coverage starting. Starting tomorrow morning. And go all the way up until 2 in the morning when Amman. After game four boy big start for Clay Buchholz and in in the rest of the Red Sox pitching staff try to even up this series. Thanks to -- rob Bradford out and Saint Louis are at thanks to a Craig's shot which. For two and a tremendous job producing is always Laura misery goes help and a -- -- a day. And now our thanks as well to have big daddy's that's for -- coming up clutch they came up clutch premiere at sixty -- -- today did. Western -- -- terrific pieces and subs a -- pizza decked out. So I'll be back with -- it for the pregame show. And my version of a -- -- 720 pregame show officially it's 6 o'clock and also would be after game four I never go more.