Oct 22, 2013|
Mike Salk, Michael Holley, Kirk Minihane and Lou Merloni discuss the Sox in the World Series.
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Appear to me you missed -- the meals lately and now it's unnecessary I -- tell -- what we put on the three guys. We want on -- this under the -- and supporting the Pirates but I I look at. -- c'mon I'm sure it was really. It was 193. Before I left and it's a 198 right now you don't run with -- and knows how horribly run on two and a half marathon Sunday mornings yeah. -- and for like a year to do happen and on -- amateurs are going to have marathons and it was 7:7 AM will be their normally I don't are going to be there I might run the first three or four miles when you went thirteen and a guy you want to you know with the -- now. I saw I have this morning I haven't run they have better. -- G you know you play penalty if you are you are miss. Characterizing me I have run a half marathon but I am not for now we don't want it now face to face us all right now. There are that you're that good exit I got no problem. Exactly yeah. On and destroy you -- what are we doing Gina where any low calorie diet yeah and you guys would know saw all those guys the guys now we were just talking about MVP candidates for the World Series and -- I know the guy that that I was talking about who who scares me the most. From Saint Louis perspective is a guy that you like look at that's Yadier Molina. -- absolutely. I think that he is a big X-Factor in the series today. It's not just the running game like -- -- here or stolen bases. -- attempted only 46 stolen bases against this guy all year long I think -- these numbers like 113. They just don't even try. Wainwright game one starters don't 240 innings 34 starts you don't base stealers are against him three for six. Six. I mean they just don't do it it's not just the base stealing its. You know secondary leads Burton -- get a big lead at first base wanna go first to third scored a double. -- that -- rubs off victory of ticket to advantage of a ball under second third -- -- we we go rally. When when you get a guy like Gatti with those the ball so quickly to first base and pick off he just yeah it's almost that you can't even get a big secondary lead to take advantage. I hate to cut you off with a -- at Fenway Park right now we'll come back and break down right after Blue Jays had made you -- in this great situation in Toronto. And going to what the media was reporting on. As a possible bad situation in Boston given the last place team. The opposite obviously happened. Did you see this coming did this did this surprise you that it's been so much the opposite of that where did you think this was achievable from the get go. You know I can't speak to what took place in Toronto this past season. I knew that. When it -- been set out so. Execute his vision his plan and the players that he was able to identify that matched that vision. And when we assembled teams in spring training in Fort Myers it was clear that this was. A group of veteran guys that have come from winning environment so we are getting a core group back that was healthy. Guys that it had won championships guys have been all star caliber players. In as the season unfolded. The tight knit group that we know today started. To experience some things and answer some challenges that. And we felt we had a good team and that close knit group has helped us overcome some of those challenges. -- -- Hi John not only a little bit about. Your experiences from most how they can translate now you manage every day but the post seasons a different animal and this is a different animal entirely what did you pick up maybe. From Tito and 07 that's helped you through here could help in the next week. I think the one thing that stands out in and having to live it now after the first two series is there's. Probably a little more sense of urgency to the decisions you make particularly. With matchups on the mound. And sometimes she you kind of go a little bit more -- gut with the way guys are currently playing as opposed to the the approach you might take during the regular season words -- in some ways maybe a little more numbers based. In the way guys respond to the post season environment you know that that's the one thing you're you're reading on reading or getting a read over the giving guys an. That might be where some of that gut feel comes in the play with some lineups that we've used. You know particularly with -- on the field situation or making a change with Sandra at third base. And those are two examples that -- Think time in the back. John how did you know that no one Davis is the right man to be your pitching coach. Having been a teammate of his -- kept in touch for them over the years. One he's an intelligent guy. But more importantly his genuineness. As a person. To me was. The one thing that would allow him to connect with players and that is proven to be the case is a very good pitching coach. And I think the sincerity in which he comes to work with every -- guys feel that and they trust in his message. In addition to all the other things -- much about him the person and that is the intelligence that he has he can dramas on experiences. You know was a top flight young pitcher himself and unfortunately injury took that away so we can identify and have some compassion. Towards those who might be going through a similar situation. I can't. John Kuhn -- has been done today at this time you might have the rest of the rotation and some thoughts on what direction might go on with the roster wondered if you do. Right now no roster changes. As of today we're gonna go the same Tony five that we finish the last. Series with so that hasn't been adjusted. -- like to pitch game two. And yet on the weekend you'll have got a little more clear is like it's closer. Red Cross -- to. Oh thank you -- He -- just wondering if you push you that you managed Blue Jays for two years just wondering if any relation to out there anybody called -- message you to. Offer congratulations and wish -- in the World Series. Yeah there there have been a couple not only. Some people in front office but the couple players as well also. You know hopefully through all the change of some of those. Personal relationships that you do forge don't go by the wayside despite what might have come out of last year and appreciate they reaching out. You can have a long questions Steve could have forgot about it. I'm always -- when did you know that I want to ask you John about that the tragedy this city went through in April and how that is impacted you was a person. This team. You in New York in 2001 the Yankees -- them through something similar obviously the tragedy was much for enormous and it happened late in the season how has that impacted. What this team has tried to do is to help the team come together having a cause in a sense. It it has and we we spoke a number of times about. That event being somewhat of a galvanizing force for this group. What's been most impressive is. Some of the individual outreach well by our players without any. Public acknowledgment without any. You know the genuineness in which the players have done that whether it's hospital visits whether it's leaving tickets for individual families -- first responders. I and I think all we tried to do was pitching in. Two there were rest of the city. To help those affected. And so there more than anything not let that day go forgotten and I think our organization throughout the course this year's done. A great job of acknowledging those who responded to those who have suffered. In and I think more than anything just. We've become a little bit of a vehicle. -- to keep that in the forefront. A lot of people's mind. And John is somebody with a a player development background how much you. Like the idea that the World Series has two teams that have a lot of homegrown players the Cardinals a few more than you guys but that both organizations have tried to. Incorporate young guys into their -- this year. I think it's. It's a great example of a lot of work of by people that might not. Gain a lot of notoriety. Or knowledge meant that you know that's the scout who's out in the northwest finding a young guy from that territory or. A coach at this entry level in rookie ball. And there in -- is on the players that have started their career in that original organization and and I firmly believe that the players that come through that path they and they have a maybe a greater sense of ownership because it is their original organization and that might translate into. The difference on the field with the way they compete the way they go about it knowing that they're playing for what they know was their home. In pro baseball and no one doesn't as well as the Cardinals given the number guys that are on the roster right now. -- Having been the pitching coach here can you reflect. What. Journeyman was for Jon Leicester from recovering cancer patient in 07 to where it is now knows. The number one starter and your staff and how much of what he went through personally do you think made him a stronger person to see that number one pitcher. Well there's there's no doubt that his personal story. Is a major contributor to use today. You know thinking back to 07. When we sent him out of spring training and I was seven so it's a start back in Greenville in in the South Atlantic League and and work his way back up to build stamina. I had to build some endurance he came to this was sent back down to act as you've been to Portland late that season. Interest to see his. Progression to regain the physical stamina and strength but ultimately culminating in the game for a start that he had. You know. For for so many of us it was it was a great experience when rosters. But for Johns case. It's it to be on the mound in the clinching game in World Series environment. I mean that's stuff that stories in movies are made and to see -- come today. There's there's no question he hasn't forgotten the the journey he's traveled. And I think he serves as a living example so to many that. Don't take the field but share in a similar journey is yes. But to John how -- -- -- presence affect choices you're gonna make. Well he's he's a shut down -- on the plate -- by the number of attempts against them this year. But in addition to his ability to throw a baseball you know other pitchers do very good job of unloading -- what they're loading times as well also. You know we were worse and still trying to get our arms around trying to you know maybe be opportunistic in certain situations we don't know when they're going to be yet. But. He certainly a force to be reckoned with back there and you don't wanna take chances particularly is. As well pitched games as that projects to be with these two staffs. You think it might be a little run game and and. Outs are premium. Shot Jones is our call that that game four start was kind of came out of nowhere. What do you remember about you and Tito. Deciding to give him the ball there and it wouldn't put aside from whatever. Motion was involved for cancer survivor -- be closing out a series what did you see from him on the mound that made you think. You know that this guy has the ability to be a top top of the rotation guy going for. Without. Recalling every. Factor that when we enter every contributing factor that went into the decision to the two appearances he made the ALCS one wasn't real good and fun right. And the other was I think to the third innings over Cleveland where. He was powerfully as dominant. And and coming out of the ALCS and I'm trying to remember if there was no with a starter as we bypass in that situation. -- it was like right in time we felt like it in the altitude. You know with the knuckleball might be a little bit more of an issue there. And we all felt that stuff power stuff you -- to get hitters out within the strike zone was key and know coming off that second appearance against Cleveland you know Jon Lester was it was a clear choice. David John Mike -- was asked about the Cardinals way how would you define the Red Sox way. That there's so. A relentless approach to play complete game every night. And I know that can be used to selling a broad brush but. You know we do we look to be relentless and every aspect of the game and that's a mindset and attitude that we've. We worked it worked hard at creating. And I think that attitude is what has allowed us to come back from Somali. Deficits this year. And never. Give an at bat away and certainly played to the 27 out overnight. On national formally hands -- similar to go Johnny. You're gonna talk about -- white and what kind of problems might keep presented Wednesday. A very good pitcher. A lot of strikes particularly early in the count we know we're gonna get -- three pitch mix thrown against us that it's in when he gets when he's when he walked only 35 guys and you know -- -- -- forty innings. You know you're gonna get a lot of pitchers across home plate and not just. In the strikes on somewhere it got very good command. As we talked about with guys that are on the Detroit staff its power stuff. He has ability be unpredictable he does a very good job of -- running game in culmination of yadier. The key for us is if we get pitches on the plate in the middle plate somewhere -- not to -- At three on the middle and there. -- -- One of the biggest differences this year you're -- -- a full run better you give a lot of credit the one you this earlier. On to the guys to the -- your stuff Buchholz and Lester are you close when your pitching coach here. Yet to either may be worse seasons for them individually lives here. What do you attribute and how much input did you do you think he's their bounce back seasons this season. Well I got back to their original or they're more consistent form I'm you know coming into the is start this season. Jon Lester was still going through some adjustments to his delivery that he he ironed out in spring training and gain that consistency. It's a performance he has which is back to it in the 08 to 2010 form that he showed before. And Clay Buchholz who was coming in the spring training. Not restricted physically you know -- it come off a situation where his -- back and prevent him from being as effective as he was. Unfortunately his season was interrupted because of shoulder issue. But you know those two guys -- more than anything was just getting back to add to their original form and when we're able to get off to a good start their confidence grew. And I think the remainder of our rotation was able to feed off of their leading by example and but just giving them back to their original form. Perez John -- meet with the media across the street at Fenway Park we're Jerry Remy is Mike -- Michael -- -- Linehan and boomer Loney as well while the news that comes out of it. No changes there to the roster for the World Series which means Franklin Morales will stay on the roster still bit of a surprise to me I'm not sure what value he has for them at this point. And then John Lackey will indeed as I think most of us suspected to start game two of. Yeah I was gonna be shocked if he would -- Clay Buchholz of the game two starter just because of the rest involved. It would have to talk about buckles having stamina issues. You wouldn't bring them into you start game two with four days' rest so it just makes a lot of sense that you're gonna have Lackey. And game two starter that you -- buckles game three in Saint Louis. Could turn this thing on her and I are on their rookie. Four days yeah I think he'd like to have him start game -- he -- because that's the only real game to get a day off after. Because now you look at a guy that's going go five innings he pitches game three public Jake Peavy with who really knows. You know in the three games back to back to back and still doesn't asserts but he needs a rest there I think he needs a rest I think ideally we get in five days then you probably was -- game Q could you like to try -- next day. Hitting off the body can use your bowl and all you want now. Do you use evidence and he's got five incident at this point and if what I seen the first couple games. First few starts here is it's five is eighty pitches in the -- then you better get somebody up -- -- that quick ball. When -- does come out in the sixth inning the last time we saw what was Franklin Morales who came in form I would hope after what we saw what I have to see that again and yet he finds himself right back on the playoff roster give me a high leverage situation where morale is in the picture this year I don't not possible no time. Mean to what does that tell you what does that tell you by putting him on the roster Sevilla man bullpen era is only gonna come in and then when you're down five. Yeah do you need to kill inning somehow. Yeah he -- you have more valuable when you already have two other starters on -- particularly in your bullpen -- -- more valuable -- an extra -- I -- I think you needed though. The urgency of the unity it used to brought -- -- Do probably piggyback and all these guys we look at the cardinal starters idea of the numbers against lefty righty is. They've blocked and only go five woeful -- peavy peavy goes the other day that he did you only goes three and as you go right to do brought. Can you switch it up lefty righty on the real quick in the middle of the game early on in the game and cut the chase change the things around. We want DuBois already but do you wanna burn him blitzing game to all of a sudden game one out of nowhere right big jump all over John lack giving anything really happened you wanna protect yourself. This may be a stretch you could tell we what you guys think about this. May be part of the reason you have. Lackey for game two of -- to game three in addition -- the splits for lackeys better home. How about defective -- to register eighty pitches so -- -- National League park. You've got one less guy to worry about -- throwing to the pitcher maybe you can extend you can get more out of Buchholz because he doesn't have to face. Even weigh hey and as typical lineup that and actually part of that a possibility. Yeah that is also Leone did you form early in the game we don't feel so bad right here he's still remain in the black is actually dealing he like really gonna waste this starts in -- -- from in the sixth. You know me oh the seventh inning when he can give me another inning of Buchholz you know in the sixth inning and he's sitting there on eighty pitches you know probably because you know he's probably done anyway. I'm disappointed in the guys in the press first the ball nobody asked Carol what the differences between being up one -- -- being down 01 after the first game -- that we have to be there and asked the question to answer yeah. No I mean unfortunately. He and Tony you know very very sad and I have much preferred to ask my genius question. Harrell are coming up here -- view -- I've been so Smart that you picked against the Red Sox in both of us. The series they -- to explain yourself when you're just gonna do for your pick for the World Series that's next we got a minute and number Loney -- -- -- -- on WEEI. That you want to put runners leading the way. 24 year old lefthander deals and actually get a ground ball up the -- at it but I'll try it. Back at Barrett's stay. On the ball was right behind the back of my kids get that back. Iglesias was very good about where that. Second baseman was crossing over as well and everybody say. Think -- is that it is -- momentarily but that -- out of the bases loaded or -- victory you know. I don't know that it the beggars not in May have bit. He had it in his glove and and on the get a charge you with a -- I was a tragedy just hate to see that. So sad for more Jose and all of this great followers and supporters across New England. -- off Michael -- Kurt -- -- Loney 24 hours from now will be giving away tickets for game two of you listening to us tomorrow at 530 while a couple of tickets. For game two to give away guys that you just heard John Farrell. And be on just what he announces regarding his rotation John -- game to. His roster which we'll stay the same as it was the last two series. I Kirk I wanna get your thoughts on on why you picked against them a second as well but just come back to his word deferral used relentless. It is a good word to describe his Red Sox team is usually now when you hear in terms of baseball more of a football term he is in terms of baseball. What exactly what they do don't we just beat teams down time after time after time that's why he did beat Detroit I mean where the ball well they weren't starters out to get to the bullpen. It's an underrated thing you talk about law before series start now we figured out they do that against the Cardinals pitching help exiting reason they didn't change green. Or you know the against the did that happen. Are -- here and little have a decent arms that we had there not a sweep. No no problem and an utter lack of respect for the Boston I don't know not that I could see I -- the Red Sox to a 74 games the regular season not bad because colon deal reversed -- I right now in the first round there and -- -- Detroit and now picking Saint Louis for the same reason I picked the two series before too stupid not stupid. I believe the two stars for Saint Louis won -- two more than one into the Red Sox about 34% Lewis -- great. No I think is really good the lineup I think it's pretty good it's a damn good competitive series seven games. There yes it's gonna go seven games in and be miserable and be here Michael -- -- that's right. It's getting us that he's B yeah it is this is the better team why did you swing back home. After your show -- at 2 o'clock you know go back home. Hang out their forum and -- we didn't do an article with the when you guys 6 December 20 and start to telecast well maybe -- say. Don't know I joint don't know zone or Chargers I write your nose for the Somalia for -- it's not what we gonna follow me and you know we get destroyed in the city it's a stock. I'm Xena does everything -- get to a helicopter around for something. -- helicopter in or better -- bring him in here is how you do some trick or treat her right around ten more to become. Output in Jokester Leona but it requested Dumars feels -- -- we can postpone Halloween for missing as he he never forgive you for this if you don't and hopefully -- -- ever forget our our work he's full years of -- if you can our dialogue because -- -- best please -- -- zero. Like I -- that I haven't seen -- I'm going home I'm going ask -- ground ball but I don't. I think this is the years his walk and Torii Hunter turned bad yet this up I'll be rock and how credit. I I I this is here. A relentless approach from her commitment and I I happen like that -- by the way for the Red Sox accurate I think it really does describe how they attack teams how they attack the game. And it's not just what they do at the -- -- sort of what they do everywhere. Well it in -- one of the things do relentless. You know. On the -- pass and I think the that's going to be obvious Giuliani really of these can be difficult to do you know we just were double for the Ferrell. You -- aggressive on the bases just stealing bases you know it didn't secondary leads school first to third scored from. From sex first base that double it's taken to pitch in the dirt taken off we get the extra bag and Kelly yet he keeps it close to the back of a secondary busy picking off. You know she did -- take my choice to play you think you know young second base personally didn't matter what -- you wrong you had to be real careful when you secondary because he can pick you off -- a heartbeat. But there relentlessly will be an -- at at the plate because when you look at these stars this isn't. -- don't have Justin Verlander go to -- when he five you know pitches in the game that they don't have that. I mean Wainwright to get a -- 110. You know some of the guys have gone one hand a couple of times. The -- 95 pitches seven innings that that's not gonna happen here in his World Series. -- his lineup out someone asked this yesterday so who -- better and who would win the series between the 2004 Red Sox in this team I thought 2004 in a pretty pretty much a runaway right. About five games maybe six games you're just look at the construction of that team. Okay here's the point. 2004. We were saying the same things about the Red Sox and the Cardinals remember that cardinals' lineup. -- 105 gain what you did better than this one yet -- three and Mary had Larry Walker obviously Albert Pujols Edmonds to Jim Edmonds was in there at Scott Rolen. They were they were loaded. -- the Red Sox still to this day didn't have to pitch in no I can't believe they'll hum the Red Sox. Pitched to that team mission from now. I can't think with this lineup now it's I think everybody's good in the Cardinals and there's no superstar lineup. But this is the kind of line up where you can you can you can neutralize. I was thinking about that I -- is -- guy you fear in his final Belgium that's it right stud. Clutch -- is absolutely. Is there anybody else know that's it there's not a guy you say it I can't pitch this guy in the situation I. All they aren't you sort of players if you if you make a mistake holiday ultimately I think got -- -- you know Koppen -- things underrated be getting the lead -- guy bases early enough that TO keep him off the -- -- a good player. He's a good player but we know they don't they don't run and and it's surprising to me. Then this is the first time that I've seen the Cardinals team. That doesn't room. -- -- And edited the at a more athleticism I get I don't run explained that and I I don't know I don't want to look at what a lot -- -- lots delighted loves to just off the table right now personally. You know this lobster when I first started here about seven months ago said that if and when the Red Sox made the playoffs and went to the World Series. He was down a gimme lobster dinner but I didn't realize I was not to cook the law to myself I don't gonna go cook just until -- -- very exciting let me just make it clear that it was Mike Salk who said. I'm sitting here looking at this lobster looks like Max Scherzer and I would -- overlook what -- I this kind of -- you put a lot different probably don't want all you want a lobster in front of brilliant that's not. I can't they had kind of given you the evil I have no one album. Are you afraid of the lawsuit. Iowa I'm not crazy. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- they consider the lobster you know I feel bad for the camp yeah I'm. -- put in some boiling water and the guess it seemed fairly painless I don't the spelling -- it is Lito and probably won't like that to finally get to -- while I do not like getting my hands -- that's -- like a warm -- confident. It is one of the many things Kirk and I have a comment you know we just start thinking about all the things we have in -- that's just one of them. Neither of us through the experience there is a true yeah do you think I'm that guy I like to go get my hands thirty -- -- a -- after all her opinion and if you don't want it. For -- -- -- -- -- -- out of hand -- -- -- do is -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I've been pleased about where we're talking about the -- Cardinals and speed which is pretty well nonexistent on that team. Is this almost like the like the race situation where you circuit don't -- Longoria -- and in this case it's Beltran. And everybody else OK pitch with some level of caution but they're probably not going to rise to the same level Beltran. They got a much better alignment and then in Tampa this is not long goal and nobody else I mean. I feel David Kris talking about a guy that I know he's banged up his ankles are all Jimmy. You know but it does -- tuchman MVP I don't know -- Allen -- gonna come back and do anything with the time that he missed. But he's an easy guy that you don't let him come back to be comfortable with the same thing -- brawl as always I can be right. Adams got some thump Yadier Molina not only can he pitch you can hit a possible motives and Hendry indicated that this lineup. I know this this is the best lineup you've seen. In the best bullpen you've seen. Was daughters that maybe aren't of Detroit's caliber of pretty damn close. That's so I think and -- close -- not check yet they're close yet Michael walk is a different plan. I don't know and Wainwright and I don't like -- right now walker is pitching he's a different planet right now I don't know. I don't think he is a first round pick I don't he's a guy they got when they lost Albert Pujols they drafted him with that slot that compensation pick. I don't know what we did you don't like yeah -- you've got. And saying well this is only at somebody asked me how long deletions in a -- extinction is gonna wake up tomorrow awesome because in the moment and not be good though. So but I don't know if they get a bowl I don't I don't know how good he is -- -- I know right now is good but. Who apologetic let me talk they're going to facing better competitions and the programs right now -- -- -- -- -- Compared to somebody in the major leagues right now you probably can't have you seen him have a -- that yet doesn't get an -- ever seen and then. Oh like oh my god this is a kid you're right now maybe wondered if -- wanted to million and compare to anybody because. He's going to be a superstars -- yeah yielding to Rodriguez I don't bore a hole is I think he's got to get out the other good hitters are getting stronger. We'll see its flaws more when he plays next year your tires. Until the -- here's what he did get from him you do get to see him against very good pitching as good pitching you're gonna see song have taken bats against guys like scherzer you -- those and they were great. The one thing I can't -- about Walker's and he's pitched to an American League lineup. I haven't seen him pitch to a lineup like the Red Sox have assembled. And that doesn't mean he's gonna go into shall be afraid of the moment but to show up here at Fenway Park in this environment in game two may be his team is already down a game we'll wait and see how does -- reacted to come combination of the World Series Fenway Park and a legitimate American League lineup that -- -- we can run in runs this year. I think that dodge -- pretty good very good and I don't know -- I know my attempt wasn't there. But that's a very good line. -- I just. Still play some NFL he's a two pitch guy though that's the only thing -- fastball changeup but it just the angles he throws of that that there and the change of the curb balls -- occasional show only you know shall we -- first pitch. That's about it rather nice fastball changeup. You know nothing you've seen it's I of this of the guys in the NLCS in the NL DS and regular the regular season it does is the World Series that much greater than an LCS semi it's a bigger stage yeah but. I don't see Santa Bogart's just go into a hole would give me bad at bat just like I don't see this kid just grab. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Know every start learning experience and you know find the backs that don't draw something -- that'll hopefully help me tomorrow then they'll be great. I was Jon Lester game one starter earlier today Kurt -- bloomer Loney or whether assault and -- On WEEI the Red Sox road to redemption roundtable. Continuing on second time we've done this year Jerry Remy isn't great food good atmosphere good spot to come by right by Fenway Park if you're gonna be around tonight tomorrow the rest of the week for games one and two. Good spot to stop by now I assume you guys saw Bobby Valentine's comments on reds this morning yeah -- have to read them right I'd like just think he says that if I came back for my second year that given the changes and improvements. I would have been able to do the same thing and -- a great job this offseason rebuilding the team. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before usually a team. We'll go after one or two free agents and hope they work out when you're signing seven -- guys and they all work out and blend in together as well as they did it. That's amazing to me that's that is Bobby Valentine saying that if he were a year they would still be in the world's. Yeah -- nonsense you say his firing. Was a necessary step to. The change everything that's going on here at this that that is absolutely ridiculous it's delusional and it's pretty accurate with the way he's been to be perfectly honest with you. There's a chance and now their playoff team the same as the good yeah free agents agreed to come here he's still the man -- -- assistant defensive Valentine which I don't wanna deal with US Bobby Valentine that question is he supposed to say you know -- -- -- -- I'm incompetent we were gonna win 69 games with a donning their jobs only leaves open and if nick guesstimate but Nickels over wakes him up and -- some of. Question yeah he's gonna have to answer about why I don't know. I don't mind him answering the question I just think he's wrong I mean. That he has to protect himself and he should believe in themselves -- you're right what I did wrong note how many of these guys actually show up but he's the manager he is a -- is the right word command is -- week -- was don't want a couple times if you -- -- the -- -- the guy is absolutely. Nuts it's been threatened punctured. Now he didn't throw the chalk it surprisingly didn't didn't didn't get to know we don't want to diligently and eventually give Laviolette more time trying to had a second year and come back for second year right and got -- talked occurred more often I'm sure we'll learn that about. I think if I ask this question earlier. Do you think Red Sox ownership understands. What happened to me -- do you think they understood what it all worked out well for them. There's going to be extra money for the reds are thought that there isn't in it for the money but -- extra money for the right -- -- this postseason run. Seeing all the great things about them Jerry didn't John Ferrell in the team as likable most of ratings are up across the board. Do you think they know. Why this is happening. Do you think whoever was I don't know -- Larry I don't know if it was John Henry Tom Warner all of them together. Who decided that Bobby Valentine was a guy. You think the lesson they got was you gotta provide resources in the ownership but. We got a lot of people that we hired to do the job. Yeah well listen I think they learned their lesson I think they hired Bobby is a short term. -- -- -- could give them credit pick in the know they hired Bobby Valentine it was such a mess and open up everybody's eyes to make this deal for the Dodgers it was a short term and -- -- always in their odds. And 2000 really goes bad as it did. But I think you learn the regular a lot of by the evening. But the GM -- their manager -- you know that's number one let's start there me to -- On the general manager my personality I want I want it to kind of be a -- the match the kind of guy that I want here running my team and you know this. And as they match you don't think the soft mild mannered you never know in the public I've been sharing deal is that all like my -- like Bobby Valentine -- play -- slicing he was part of that process of understanding of me in the culture change. The culture change wasn't just bringing in Jonny Gomes went hard -- You know -- -- -- to go to change was also. You know allowing -- allowing me to make some calls allowing to bring in -- right personnel get the right players and everything else -- that. You know the way we communicate as a coaching staff from coaching staff the general manager that all needed to change. What's amazing is it about this team that trade was a huge like press two if you go down this team's payroll for next year. Look at each guy I can remember in my life in baseball you could say the Red Sox you can get out of one contract pick one. There's a point that you were keeping every single one of these guys every contract right now. It's a good contract which proper big budget team is unbelievable. Unbelievable Dillon doing with what you -- -- Mike Napoli. Who doesn't have a contract army and some guys you can decide to sign right happily answer salty happily and -- obviously he's gone elsewhere but those are good problems to have and financially especially well. It's a good problem to have because your team is winning but if Ellsbury doesn't -- were talking about last segment about. MVP -- who who could be MVP for themselves or if the Red Sox when it. -- -- -- -- -- That's not necessarily play well and it didn't work this -- to abusing the press conference after the trade was discipline -- -- and Ellsbury classic case. Of discipline you look at that he's gonna want the kind of money in the -- years the -- -- -- -- think pretty clearly doesn't wanna give a player so he walks in you know what. He's got the currency right now nobody's gonna. Right and in some ways if he does end up as you said is the World Series MVP someone who will drastically. Overpay form -- almost makes it easier. For charity and say look they offered him so much money we didn't want any part of that if it was close maybe there's a debate -- -- getting overpaid badly easy to just say look they gave an insane money you don't want us to get caught up with some. Like the idea of all the guys they have free agencies -- -- have each and every one of Beckett receptacle wheels for one year. Each and every right now that you for a one year fourteen million dollar deal to Napoli salty or Stephen -- if you want. Yeah I won't give up a first round pick we almost are holding on -- right until the first round pick -- Josh Hamilton. I'll give up a first round pick for Jacoby Ellsbury. Gonna give up a first round pick for Jarrod Saltalamacchia is Stephen Drew or Mike Napoli the only argument three year deal 47 million dollars that not. They're not those guys to give it all -- off -- any of those three guys and all my propagate any of them for one year fourteen million dollars because I just don't see team. You know we gonna -- -- first round pick it you got to do they can give a full year deal right three year for you do those guys -- good and I just don't see any of those guys giving that they have. Thirteen think about the Boston Red Sox what you wanna give up a first round pick from Mike Napoli. Now they brought him in because there was I don't think not no compensation attacks -- right that's what they look for. There -- only special guys you do that but that's got -- is bitching about right to me please get declined chew any of the client Ellsbury that teams might do that with the match. If they want those guys victory at the bit. Yeah although the qualifying offers for significant money I'm like those guys and I didn't screw it and -- -- -- pretty good money yeah yeah yeah it's a long way of saying no and we're gonna wrap up. How we already arrived. It redemption. No movement gets -- to go five mormons geez you guys are pros and tickets elderly could. Have already arrived to redemption and is a road have to keep going nobody feels this team has already redeem themselves I think they have put but it's still the process of redemption here right continues I. They're done whether you think you're going to lose you forget about it the Shawshank. -- where I feel like we're there I'm looking around. Red Sox three is what does -- do you always like very early you always quick before job was done is that your sense to me a lot of kids. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Absolutely -- us. It has been redeemed that you might not mean the you know continued down the road to redemption to see the gleaming -- that that the real world event and there is a regular rainbows at double rate that is just the sunshine emanating from Kirk. And generally fall was the only person more cynical but you can't -- that told us that there's a race. Well this is very excited I don't -- I lied about it yeah I was very excited. Yeah. -- -- New York and left -- -- domination of -- in New York QB I think don't you got to put those together more cynical and then again that's pretty. It just -- politically -- go. I try not to you know I try not to specialty what's special. What I want in my business what is special and I've read it doesn't he didn't really cliche I don't know what we're trying to do better I. -- -- -- -- This being great series define Brady to be what's great yeah five and not be great that knows that why I think we just. It's pretty easy just listen for the word that you wanna jump in on and they just attack just doesn't telemarketing ombudsman concentrate yeah sarcastically. People who aren't just fine Ben charitable word we use to describe in director and I -- yeah. Ideally what electric to finally had to plug into a wall. An electric one then they got the -- and about one word now if you -- what what kind of award would you use to describe venture into. Stupid questions let me think one award to the side -- -- professional. -- that competence. Smart Smart guy that's what nine words it's a general manager he made a great straight. Probably in the history of the Red Sox if not the city. And now he'll be bad moves he made. And -- bad move I guess. The only bad move because they got hurt that don't have family deadline this year -- -- -- deadline but overall -- but her and beat them -- -- or doing well and it more important I guess yeah I mean it. Hope we picked him doesn't mean I know general manager as you know is going to be perfect records are pretty small ones are back in and he actually built in. He built he built in redundancies for those right. -- and doesn't work out -- doesn't work out you have to them and -- had coached you who turns out to be the best of them don't get too solid right into the -- you've really built in redundancy I think he's a very Smart guy Michael and I were talking earlier. If you think there's a possibility for him to do this longer and more successfully. Than Theo Epstein did here and I think the reason I think he's capable of it. Is I don't think there and not that the it was a huge ego -- but I -- the ego got in the way a little bit that normally doesn't chariots of. Then was -- -- was first -- what 98. Didn't you can't get rademan guard since he has sort of sat back and watched a ton of things tourney is setback in seen some mistakes he is. You know things now gotten back to it you know he saw what how to build the team basically to get those seven that he basically sought a cripple one great. And a break down the walls and she collapsed and now he's of actually getting back to building another team some of the fact he's been through all that we like to think you live and learn. In it would never happen like Danica. Mean think about all the general managers -- talking about the joy and all the general managers who have come through here. Without being Red Sox general manager Brian -- Thomas on scaffold -- how he's doing their job today. I think that -- this is doing a job outright who is a success cycle where it was you know like Mike -- Monica what Doug Melvin you know Rahal was here. Yeah as an assistant general manager Bruins that diligently for a while. You know I think he may have made these -- their success and just do their jobs they'd still be significant and look what -- did a lot of different guys interject all sort of miserable. Well I didn't I just seem like -- is literally -- -- -- I thought it was -- was colon in the -- doing his job everybody -- only successful they're you don't get a good diet and it's like you don't get gears of the well designed this he's doing his job and to hear your. I don't know everybody else. Is that the intensity gets paid to give anyone -- -- successfully inventor electricity and what is -- what is it like -- -- there any -- -- -- -- and a little Maloney thank you guys are helping out with a roundtable today did we learn. Enjoy your programs tomorrow and see guys in Saint Louis as well thank you very much we will be back tomorrow of course John Farrell will join us as he does every Wednesday at 230. 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