Oct 19, 2013|
John Henry joins the guys to discuss the Red Sox post season play and the future of the team on this special edition of Red Sox Road to Redemption.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
-- ago before first -- -- off rob Bradford also now joined finally by -- -- it gets off TV you'll be with us. For the next hour and a half or so until we turn over to the pregame show Lou. Good to have you sending books he's your expertise tonight I think pairing on the -- playing. Whether we do that we we we have series we'll play discussion to have as much as we trusted rob and know when asked about who I wanna ask the principal load up -- -- to -- it -- -- you to guys aren't. As I mean that's what they do blood because not a hobby and I thought I. John Henry I was walking by the -- your -- park without we would bring him in here have a conversation before we get into some of the theory on bunting at setter. It just to take a step back and in this whole idea of a road to redemption and and we've used that phrase. Throughout the playoffs here on WEEI but it just seems to fit in so many ways do you feel. That sense of of redemption with this team. I just I do obviously because last year just such a bad year. But I I feel a lot of things I ran in the Dick Flavin who lose. Resident poet here and he was saying that he's been Red Sox fans sense. Since you know slaughter. That plan rose to 46 or six yeah. With Johnny Pesky he was saying that used to be used to feel like that. But the Red Sox teams something something always happened to them and now they make things happen and that's sort of how I feel like this we have a group. Of players here that make things happen not just players and coaches and manager and general manager makes things happen. -- but the crazy thing about this team is -- it in front of our eyes it went from kind of what do they put together. To Waller a great start to -- last two where we now to best team the American League. When it going in the post season he knew that these this starting -- beat up in a series by no means is over. But it got to that point which seems like the beating credible did you. Best -- ever get that even at the highest. Of optimism to give a feel you'd get the point where you're the best team the American League. I think. We went through that sort of -- that that sort of metamorphosis of the U. Outlined. That's. Well the the delicate. Personal cause for -- about personal John thank you for joining us because you you could run away from me images that would put that they're gonna literally look at that thing -- -- -- Uncle Fester to let you know that. After the after the all the way you know -- I talk here during the celebration. When they -- Of the playoffs. And you have said that this felt different then anything did it you've gone through since 2007 this sort of celebration that he was because of everything that you had gone through the -- past years is that accurate. Is it it is you know we still on the playoffs every year feeling like that we had the starting pitching. And the offense to really be able to go through the playoffs. And so we get used to. Feeling like we should win every here and at least make him and we stop making the playoffs the last last time we had that feeling of -- of really for woods 2000 -- a long time. I wanna talk about the guy that that I think is is centrally responsible for the turnaround this year and I think he should be executive -- year that's been sharing ten. If you go back a little bit. Keep your relationship with him and how he was able to ascend from where he was. Up all the way to becoming the general manager of your team -- at the two days into whatever was the brief stint as a general manager and -- walked away and and came back. But what is it about bench Arrington that allowed him to rise to that spot. I think we knew for three years that he is going to be our next general manager I shouldn't -- think we knew for years that he was going to be. Our next you know manager. At one point we even talked about you becoming president. Allowing them become general managers so. We knew. You know we spoke. His his background -- so diverse. We spent I think a lot of time trying to ensure that he worked in different parts of the organization. On the baseball side of things. And he was really ready has that type of personality. To be able to handle this kind of job you all have some idea of what that being general manager. It's like here it's it's a tough tough job. You're at the trade deadline you'll get a guy like Jake Peavy shut it meant going to kind of jumped ahead by three weeks. Q do you have any involvement in even his followers I don't wanna mortgaged the future war or I would like for you to go out and it may be more impact -- guide you to sort of sit back court. There's been sort of run things -- used well here. Those things bias so so you could say we set back -- He runs things lines we have discussions. Most of the things I gamble with our strategic get a little more involved in the dodger. Deal last year because financially it's such a big deal news it was a big deal and it and it really began. Because of their ownership and there their present. You know it speaker of trades you traded for John Farrell and that doesn't happen a lot we trade fermenter. Were you confident that this was the right guy and that's why you're willing to allocate not only money but also player or players in the trade. That this was the right guy in his anything he'd done has done surprised you at all the way he's handled the managerial. So early and I think we always thought that John be our next manager after. After Tito -- and then get a job we actually did try to bring them blossom trees here. And in fact we felt we had a deal one point but it just. To work out there won -- buckles. Who took it -- -- -- Clarify. Is no other pitcher. The court worth bite bite but as also the way you know that he. Q you want him eventually -- be image you know. Where you think he's going to be good manager but even in all -- he's done has anything surprised you about what he has been able to do or how he's executed. Yes it's been I think it against so many of the players have talked about the first day spring training. And for me it it began about that time where I realized he was much more of a take charge guys and I realized that he really. Did have a very strong presence with everybody. From coaches to players and on up the line so -- he had been pitching coach and he really. Was was very good friends with Tito did not want us. You know say that my 22 this was running things but he really stepped up. It's been awhile since you guys -- through three years now you know in the post season. And it's. It's stressful right the game of baseball in the playoffs it's just slow enough for you putting too much thought. Between pitches right what's next pitch going to be what's the next move will be bringing in next it's just slow -- the stress -- out. Did you forget how stressful was -- has been a few years watching these games. -- remember a lot of stress for I remember 2003. Remember 2004 those were those were just distrustful. But it but you're right you're exactly right it's so slow sometimes because there's so that the liberating between each pitch -- the more clear speeded up today he's been pretty quick and so far this year. Listen you you thought that that he would be better he thought you have the right man after the right channel man earned some some good new players. But did you ever think that we be sitting here rated to clinch. A game six the American League Championship Series because it's a process usually -- Things don't turn around. Well I know most people we're gonna finish last but internally we felt this was going to be five team race. So. We thought we would be in position and we felt we have the pitching especially after we acquired -- I think we've really thought we have pitching. To go through this this playoff victories healthy and there they -- healthy so. It's he can't say it's expected because we thought five teams could land. But it's not totally expect that John Henry is with -- -- WEEI -- all -- Maloney rob Bradford as well as you walked through the through the concourse here that's Hillary ran into you just sort of walk into the concourse. -- shaking hands mean some of the fans out there. How of those conversations with fans changed over the course of this season. Well personalized and I was meeting fans okay it wasn't open hats that's -- with staff. Who are just six as excited is yeah everybody -- you're selling hot dogs and -- and just as excited as as in fans but the the fans have been quite different than what you hear on the radio throughout this whole process I didn't hear. From fans last year of the kind of negativity. I heard in the media so. Fans have always been great news from I think from day we arrived here they realize that we -- fans as much as they were. And and committed to winning so the fans have never. Really changed it and how they -- reactors upon months. Note that this organization you know I had a bunch of success -- him or thinking after 07 you just won a World Series -- young players coming through. In the next few years can be great beacon to supplement it with a few free agents here and there. That -- trade not just reset you guys financially but reset the whole organization because again you still have some great young prospects do you -- same spot again. It may be went. The wrong way in a few of those moves did you learn kind of some of those things where you went wrong because to prosecute -- reset here in this organization the future it movement for the next two or three years do you think. But that. In May of last year we we had a long talk about our philosophy. Our core philosophy. And as part of that we've decided content it's he can't think there's some things you just. Can't ignore and we have certain advantages we have resources. So we can't ignore it. Some realities in baseball we did we just decided. It as a senator and made it. Basic things sort of like. You know we talked about I think at one point. Where we were -- decision that we're gonna concentrate on having more in depth study of spending 22 point five million dollars for player we're gonna go might get. Two or three players and making sure that if if we have. We have a great shortstop and a great third baseman we have a really good shortstop or third baseman -- back them. -- I think all teams in all sports underestimate. The the impact of injuries. It -- me to my next question I actually saw you last night because I was watching TV. As much in the movie money ball whether it the guy who plays. The NF SA and hit it -- but it made me thought inept in fed babies are thinking about it though about that time in going after billion. And that we understand is over -- to it was too dramatic the whole thing. But you said in spring training about -- maybe leaning on a guy like Bill James Moore Alex -- just wrote a great article on base running leaving on Tom Tippett allies. Do you feel like you guys get back to that not to say that that build jeeps running the organization but do you feel they can get back to that that leaving on some of these other guys like that little bit more. I think so glad that -- that the real key here you can't get away from. The way the players this year have approached. Blues greens you can't get away from the -- players approached played this year you just. These guys seem to be unstoppable and you can't get away from what John has brought to these players -- this team to the organization. And that the people that then brought them so. I think all of that is true. But he hit it in this is the greater point at which players surprised you the most. Most. To analyze a lot of players -- surprise a lot of people. I think -- -- has just been. The best pitchers next -- is I -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But also putting some stock into the personalities. Of players partly because this is Boston and everything is different the fans are different the media is different. The pressure may be different. Pat have you guys lost weight he lost some of that element of that we talked about with these players have done. It was not something that was really conscious decision from you from your level all the way down. I think that we four. Or the consensus by may of last year that and I think Ben said it well and made the trade we weren't the team we wanted to be. And who so we needed a course correction and it started really again started in May. And it and the trade in August really helped us to be able to. To move in that direction. What may may it may seem early but you can tell I mean if you watched the at bats we have an April and may. You knew five or at least we knew I'm sure -- knew I made this something not I mean who we had spent what ten years. Of relentless at bats we battling grow and grind it out at bats and I think last year we finished either last or next the last in on base percentage so something has. Radically changed so even. Even some of -- more patient hitters were flailing so so to speak at the plate being not. That we've lost our way that. That seems to fit right into that same nexus right where you're looking at the numbers and paying attention to people a patient at bats. And that somehow the personality of the team. Could be enough to take players that do usually have -- -- maps and drop them all the way down the bottom of the league in OB I remember looking back in September at this team and -- -- -- depth of the lineup and you get you big boys right one through four but five through 94 of those guys. Let their position plea to you know pitches per plate appearances like full or the bottom not five guys. And it was just at their position is a look at the first full beach in the bottom five or just grind you out. Every great team you've seen here you know that 89 hitters a dangerous guy and that's kind of you beat some of these teams in the senior year today. You know John. After the David Ortiz game which we -- as the -- -- to import generic Saltalamacchia who got the game winning her credit. But you you went up in the -- think regulations to David in that you weren't surprised. Does that with David. We don't look too far ahead but we have to take just a second to understand. How unique -- player he has. It is one of the most difficult players to get in baseball now. And did it does I don't Aussie do you loosely but do you think you'll see a guy like this available. To the Red Sox or to any team because if you get a guy like that usually have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars. We do we understand what we haven't gave -- -- area. Sometimes I don't think greeted -- but do and one thing's for sure you won't be replaced you go down in history. One of that is the cornerstones. Of the success that we had during these last ten years the cord system so. You won't replace the game has changed -- to -- point rightly so many of the of the smaller market teams. Are locking up their best players early -- there are -- early in their tenure and so the by the time they're available free agency they're even older I gambling on a big time that free agency becomes harder and harder. Maybe you can do with the tigers did in and trade to acquire young player like Miguel Cabrera and then pay him once he's already been on your team. Is there some thought to the future of OK eventually. We're going to need that next middle of the order hitter how're we gonna find that guy if we know we've already made some mistakes and trying to get away spending all the money just in free agency. There's no doubt about it it's a lot tougher than it used to be it's getting tougher every year. So glad you just just like a Major League -- has to adjust. As he comes in as he goes through. Through through through the years baseball changes and it's it's changing the economics are changing. -- the way you have to look at putting -- others changed and speed and and power has changed. You it that's fascinating because I've thought about this offseason I don't wanna jump ahead because -- -- in the here and now the playoffs. But in one respect you have a ton of money coming in the baseball. And by the same time you have how you built this team. And how the Oakland a's built their team which was this take a lot of money for a lot of players do you think this offseason will be more like that. Do you still think there's going to be these big hits. Because there. A ton of money coming days. I think both. You gotta admire what Tampa has done -- their resources and and they've been sort of begin to us that we have to be more careful. -- our resources going for -- and it's so I think from our standpoint you'll see us continue. To move -- lines we have over the last years. You got a couple players and we'll let you go here in just a moment lets you continue to greet staff it's that are. But three guys in particular who who are going to be free agents this year Jacoby Ellsbury. Mike Napoli Jarrod Saltalamacchia. Have there been any recent thoughts -- conversations. With any of those the -- Well they have internally. I wouldn't comment on anything beyond -- term. Well we appreciate your time thanks for stopping by and continued good luck hope we ST win tonight and then on to the World Series in Saint Louis. Looking forward to are there you go Red Sox principal owner John Henry kind of have to stop by the Booth. We're be right back breakdown what we just certainly Maloney it's -- Bradford this year until about 715 on WE yeah.