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Red Sox Road to Redemption Round Table Discussion Hour 2

Oct 3, 2013|

Mike Salk, Michael Holley, Kirk Minihane, Dave O'Brien and Mike Mutnansky preview Rays at Red Sox for the AL Divisional series starting Friday at Fenway.

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Our part to Howard -- the Red Sox road to redemption roundtable with a different group Michael and I stayed here. Continuation of salt and Ali I don't -- that we have not added some new some new players to work gangs here. We got Mike -- asking. -- -- Dave O'Brien all with us together hi guys how -- what's up tremendous. I expectancy so don't give a look at your basement hand. Yes so then to say I know you're you're talking like about five -- -- Did your back pocket I'd do it I was sorely to our. You're you're you're first -- -- well yeah. I know it was you know you talk about the red -- the first hour it was so lovely don't you know I think one you guys write well B -- into this -- it was a sure. How okay I'll tell you who's not breaking at this Joseph -- -- that does not with child out that our I was just may never be made it very very clear how he feels about the wizardry of it domain he should spend a few minutes and met his office. Which is really an education decision -- the first thing you'll see if any of you were basketball fans is John -- it's pyramid of success of course -- -- goes from there and then you do -- the bottles of -- all of which are upscale dramatic -- days as well -- rules but -- fascinating -- I know that there -- you sure about that are you sure he's pulled the wool over people's well Brian you know -- why first of -- veto yet he knows his stuff. Nobody nobody really believes John bands appear -- -- people just put that up so people can say 01 yet he believes that in the yet he believes that in the jump wouldn't ever have this garbage is -- is go look good for business so we're okay -- job -- I. I way to get these morons that -- -- the -- -- -- Involved -- got other players -- That's been an -- talk about great you -- love Joseph Maddon. Call out John Lackey this year like nobody else called body hit Joyce. And it comes off the field after the game it's as bad -- that he may and I was in the Red Sox players agreed I was up the Red Sox players. I think they felt the same way as it is rarely read some pyramid of success as they call out other players in the journal -- -- -- sources I don't care. What goes on -- the other -- -- I'm talking to my -- guys through the media and if I need to crap on someone else then Soviet -- why you're here I thought LB good time to talk about those world -- Cleveland Indians that you were so afraid of what were you thinking last night watching the Indians completely unravel. Well -- unlike the morning show feels like they flat fell flat on their face they came up a couple of short bases loaded can't score first and third nobody out can't score. First the second one out. Can't score. They were all overcome throughout the course of that game ever give up with a big hit and that doesn't mean they got dominated in that game. Audit beat up on bad teams down the stretch but Ortiz who gets away from. Winning the game you can typically you can just say you're making excuses for the Indians that lets update the public big hits but it would be dominated Nike did they really. No it's not great mother lost for a million base runners they can get the big hit that's. A failure for the Selkirk and hardware problem W. Another bloody obvious I would note that you thought they failed -- like Mike really watch that game winning the game -- for nothing another going on the other teams moving -- so yes I think they're -- runners -- position to -- waters all by -- up with a -- as a team -- a failure yes wow I hate to say the sabres all on this oh you -- me you know much like your -- this -- up -- the Indians failed last -- that's a fairly. -- -- Outfit all what I thought what a lot. I'd like Ron Kirk what they're watching presidents cup highlight and instead I gave up. Why I don't care nobody got it up you watch the game point outlets and did -- -- not in my you have to say like I did. It's over the -- Could shape the head to a solid -- America doesn't -- he won't do you know what it or some -- and pretty high up the -- gate deal could use the -- -- deal backyard that we're able to. Put -- back I think we all agree although I know I don't -- your doors off the rail at the thought I'd let him hurt I would go back and they aren't colonel Dave agrees. That tip is gonna win the series. That are yet to get a win the series in five games it's gonna happen -- speaker second that I believe him more. I believe the price you gonna get those guys retirement this if it by the draft all the -- -- -- -- Ramallah taken those guys -- I -- so Reynolds I am so close to agree with you. I'm so close to picking religious -- disappeared I was -- I can't quite. I agree with you on on one thing in that is it will go five -- yeah that's that's my gut the pitching is too good -- every game -- two to one -- nothing. Three to 243. But ten of the nineteen games were decided by two Angeles it's gonna it's gonna be that kind of crunching series -- The home field advantage means something here it has the Red Sox since 1999 a particular division series in particular they've dominated at -- I think when he got Jonny Lester go in game one. I don't matter so much to me who's pitching game two but that's where it starts Lester has tremendous numbers against the heart of that lineup. I love the way they gonna get off to a great start in the series and for me game one as -- Thank Caracol what what does everybody dimension as you said sorry you draft in the Red Sox or the rays pitchers or the pitchers in this series. The rays have -- you would draft once everybody talk about the race -- We're not talking about -- what you do have to hit baseball right it. Well we have yet to analyze you do you do Carolina is very very average to extremely extremely average app so eager to YouTube if you but it by the stadium. What's the most important element 25 game post season series -- -- -- they pitch again starting -- but did you know they got it to everybody and we've been talking about it for five or six years. And no hardware to show port so -- important but it's not enough to get them over the top this year. I've seen better raise a lot of ups and that's what that nobody you know they've had they've had better pitching now that I've ever said -- they're pitching now -- better than it was 2008. I would beat the Red Sox and -- but -- a little better a lot of dialogue Carlos. -- at that point do what you had out there still and they had -- but will Myers at the numbers are pretty damn good over the second half I mean it took them a little bit to commit any reenergize the team you guys -- you guys are talking about it today some his numbers in the second half I mean he's put up the kind of numbers -- he -- -- -- over the whole year -- be talking about -- is one of the better players analysts fifty. If you can work around now part of the order -- James Loney I just don't believe I saw is act it it for Boston he done for a full year at Tampa. But I take my chances with him I Yunel Escobar great defensive player but I take those at bats against him. I feel like that's that part of the order of the Red Sox starting pitchers can work around those two Longoria and will wires the issue with this here. Longoria to twenty career against -- lesser. And as hot as he is coming in the Red Sox have figured this guy out I think of it will find out right away but he used to be a Red Sox killer. The last two or three years his numbers are pretty dismal against Boston they have filed holes there there -- holes with will Myers. There are holes with Yunel Escobar. If I told you take a look at the Saint Louis cardinal out of we're watching it right now against the pirates with a dodger lineup not many outs in that lineup but I think you get a guy like Lester and Buchholz at some other guys who are really good numbers against this Tampa Bay Atlanta. They find those holes and they exploit those. Product until about we we talk about this -- throughout the year and we talked about it last hour John Farrell he's a our rookie manager but he's a rookie manager in the post season always won championships the Red Sox as a pitching coach. He has been there in the postseason as a pitching coach. Do you think that will be a factor in a post season mean he is taking on. You know cutting back here in this series and in Joseph Maddon -- will he be able. Match -- with the. Are you thinking then there's a possibility that John got dom. Between 162. And. Friday and I'm dumb but still get a post season and -- it either elevate you to put it to the next level or it exposes you know was dumped by John Wooden. Not putting -- World Series that your success. Three of the I was I think I like -- I like -- I'm off I'm really sorry you mention and John tonight is -- and I -- -- listening LA terrific management don't accelerate our dollar helped push -- -- that -- -- is terrific -- -- have been trying to -- -- Think barrel is gonna do everything you did during the regular season not much is going to change and I heard the debate about Stephen Drew not out there right now that Stephen who's gonna play tomorrow. Stephen -- is going to be your shorts. Putting pressure -- a picture though not quite as -- they -- I -- -- -- I don't lefty reliever Gary what about Saturday and luckily enough I guess they don't like -- different as he has not done that before now that is a major change I said it after the Baltimore game a couple of weeks ago but it made no sense to let drew hit that spot he let him hit after they bumped -- allowed -- to hit. Andy said aren't well if that happens again I may do it differently so. I go into a situation where if you've already used Gomes as a pinch hitter may -- haven't so he's the obvious candidate to do it do you trust Bogart's that they want Mel Brooks thinks a game one. The result report restrict is dedicating game two I guess a more realistic. Hostility that's your weak spot align right this will little books I don't think there -- any easy out so that all you could argue David Price against against drew certainly is by the way I think if the Sox dropped game one and its price. Against drew in game two. That's where you may see -- start. I agree over ten lifetime here against. David Price and -- to show what he came man. It would hit lefthanded pitching -- is the guy that is most important series that we are not talking about. He's one of the guys who helped this team hit lefties the second half -- this expense OPP gets lefties since the all star break it we're talking about that we were talking about our -- Will little Brooke's gonna face lefty lefty -- of other lefty David Price comes back or that or -- -- That report to -- you guys they're little Brooks has figured it out but he came back from Pawtucket. -- -- your -- is that more time and finally I literally how would rather be in the minor league and they do it I don't that the most god what a -- regularly. Do you think you've figured it out coming back but terrible lately -- for fifty yards but do you think part so. Figured out the daughter got them particularly Gephardt so what do you think what you think meadowbrook is a liability. I think is a guy like Dave said that the good pitched and we talked the other guys in the plate discipline was really good for -- while it -- -- -- -- just one walk and abstraction that was intentional. That's what concerns me when he walks a little bit he takes a pages seems to me. He's more productive he's a guy who's got that you know he's got to take some walks like it's our would be that he does lead when he first came back which apple everything -- gonna play two games here Fenway Park what he really got good. He started. Drive the ball the other way had that tough hole brought all opposite field home price okay now he's back. Lately it feels like that big swing it can't try to hit a fat weight David you know it starts to go the other way this first hit is that like drive it right setter. You'll feel like he started to progress past apple we're not gonna go until you what's -- -- five. Clocked -- the other thing -- like he's the mystery surrounding Bogart's they don't have a -- book on them it's a small sample. And that could mess with how they plan for and and by the way I also think middle Brooks defensively. Can be very up and down and they're basically make the great play to Brooks Robinson play. In any could hurt that intentional. Not having great book on Bogart's that it that sort of -- the -- -- it has worked out that way. It might be an and that will be will be calling John Farrell to genius yes it based on he didn't let -- labeling or not him but I don't know what to expect now look what we're we're college that's yeah. I -- -- yeah we -- Carolina you know I don't wanna go back to occur except as the continuation here the Red -- road to redemption roundtable -- all Michael -- Dave -- and and like minutes he always be here until 7 o'clock in the Mikey Adams takes over. With the guys are WEEI dot com you -- the race yet okay. Because of fearless. Replica. Race per I've proposed for a little while -- -- because they're good team they are pitching better I do regret how to -- -- to. I'll I don't even know -- you know that I -- it was after your time in San Diego right. Natalia the guy who's on who's got this Helio doesn't get a silly about to get it and that I -- the race. You -- your victory here and as I said I just I can almost I can almost -- raised I think they're really good team I think it goes five. But what I what I think about the big picture with the Red Sox and we can talk more about. How they got to this point in the chemistry argument that you guys that haven't on the morning show but. It's the multi dimensional part of the Red Sox that I keep coming back to the fact that if they if there there's going to be a slugfest they can -- -- -- -- if they need to steal back and it's that kind of a game where you can run wild. They can do that that you guys in the topic that is titles defensively I think they are excellent defensive team. Depth wise that comes down to pinch hitting late carpet Gomes and off and the way they -- those guys sort of in in a rotation edging closer to top it just they have the edge in every one of those things that always seem to come up and playoff I'm taking a five game series short series the dominant starting pitcher to be wrong. But usually have a ticket prices like that go game to obviously. Don't game five. I mean -- before -- -- unless unless he really pitches poorly I think there's no doubt that Joseph Maddon will have the cachet to say. That or you were good at but it game five on regular rest David Price has gone out assuming guys that if it goes to five. You're gonna see David Price like got to -- that's what I first -- out this series is so what's more important. Then a lot of people or make it out to be -- or we've been out to be Cy Young today -- has been pretty bad September -- control issues that to get back they need to get to him early in this series with David Price -- it to the next four games. -- want tomorrow afternoon. Gave once for all sports sports cliche this once or more threats ought to be about or an effort what could be interesting tomorrow afternoon to the shadows here. Given the time of day if it's sunny it could have a factor here. The Red Sox less that's done that's why they practice yesterday Larry -- and and they already know what to expect from their end goal and we know what to expect to -- because we did. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's the sounds of and so -- expect. After -- has proved to myself -- And apparently the colors of the uniform means absolutely nothing painting a perfect picture they -- was that Paula that's got a couple. Not to arrive till quarter. Who was that and bring to life all the action in the field. This makes no sense tells her wearing red but he's playing in the blue team to victory was wearing blue the plane's center field in the red who's a senator I'm going to -- those victory known right in. Well this is very confusing. The play by play is not going god it's the sounds of the Red Sox as. -- can only can bring it to you he. You really don't have a future -- -- play by play guys out of paranoia that I Shane Victorino has Dustin Pedroia -- look the same from right what can enjoy -- quality featuring against an appearance by Jackie Edwards David Ross sticks in. Who's used to you know some sort of action happening on the playing surface. What an awesome afternoon for baseball to back -- this ends of the Red Sox think hell was that from sultan Ali. So I learn anything there that could be helpful for you buried at call for -- -- the shadows somewhere around there you go somewhere that. I did learn to you know the most wonderful thing about our business is job security. And and I I think I'll go and -- -- fine. I refer Iran over so what are it was really very entertaining and I would have liked to heard a little -- of Jack in there but you know that letter is Brett thanks I'll -- first to say. I was wishing for horses of wall or whatever say that out loud and use -- is a global -- -- -- good enough to this summer voice of the Red Sox. -- -- -- -- -- That you feel he gave this summer voids to -- -- that at least at least Thursday or go to college there. I don't know are clearly out of turn resorted -- -- and -- -- Michael Ali there right now. That was an inside yes it was brilliant to bring you back here. Had been having a debate the morning show really throughout the course of this season about chemistry in the Red Sox are what are really mean is -- the reason that -- -- getting ready for this game tomorrow or is it just byproduct of all the talent that was brought in here -- -- -- conversation coming up next we got the Red -- roundtable here on W media. Offensively but I don't take anything for granted with that either there's such a prodigious offensive ballclub so I see that if you look at the the history of this season has been primarily their pitch he's really been tough for us. Joseph Maddon showed off the fifty cent words -- Ali. Continuing though the Red Sox roundtable here Dave O'Brien curtain and Hanna Mike -- All of -- on that WEEI -- yankees -- today you're probably saying at a salt looks familiar first it was last night Nick Swisher or come up with a few big hits and today AJ Burnett just get -- gives up seven earned runs in two innings. As the pirates trail Los Saint Louis seven nothing right now and predictable -- at thirteen fifty degree ERA and at ballparks oh. That's on up. -- if -- seventh storm erupts it's going to upload it through that going that's why alike with John Ferrell do with John Lackey in play in the home road splits which we talked about this season. And how he got here how we got to this point -- were doing a round table like today for a whole cities get excited for game tomorrow here at Fenway Park Red Sox finishing with the best record in baseball after what was. Just a total disaster a year ago chemistry plays a role -- -- you think it's a huge role do you think it's a minimal role Kirk is sort of -- your deal throughout the year yeah. Well I mean I just I'm ad buy it to some extent was pregnant but I do what do you buy I've by the fact that it's nice not to work with the Eagles I would imagine. No probably are right out of college and I would I don't know how did you ever go to anybody I would have no clue would be nice to find out one -- fingers crossed. But you know I think when you look at that that's part of it is easy but you know it's just the make believe. World where you know the guys grow beards and they start when you win first that you talk about chemistry I think history is littered I'm sure. With 8082 teams that have -- mystery but did have a lot of talent. I think one thing we all did we -- I'm guilty that anybody is underestimated -- the -- her I don't run for the year started. I thought Ferrell was gonna fix Buchholz and Lester in the by -- couple -- -- -- pretty good about -- -- and good but yet. But they're gonna stick that's -- -- any sense on the dummy that they are great and they might have great chemistry that chemistry teacher would back him strip by. But I think it's like Tooth Fairy stuff after awhile just make the data about the games don't think he can win with bad chemistry they have. -- -- -- that -- -- -- those average with Nixon always throwback helmets but I that is always read those and it's not your only 86 those guys I want. And we get along comes a point that he's Tokyo they had the talent pick a lot of talent was able to supersede whatever happened before that with tablet -- chemistry this team this year. It's accentuated a little bitter they had 97 when he would all like each other. I don't know why don't help that they believe it does it John Ferrell is commit here. And allow these guys not to question every day I got shot of the ballpark Michael yeah and my manager said something about now is that chemistry is that stability. What are altogether because last year. That was the issue they showed up to what they're gonna be you know. I think -- interest and everybody uses Oakland as an example of that team their talent level was such that. -- three straight World Series. I mean you got that much now I guess you can't hate -- I'll say they'll do -- the fittest you've only got under exceptional that's an exceptionally talented to let's say they don't have this chemistry at least talk about. What's -- record. 8080 they'd -- if they think it's what -- already listed before a major waiting for I don't. I thought I think you have to I think you have to be. Yeah I think you have to be talented but I think you also have to have some that you have to have some things you have to get the same page with your teammates. You have to enjoy the work of -- the -- -- barbecue at the toxic we heard that were. Our recently it can't be like that right. So I think that's worth a lot I think you're the reason I like Arizona but I would put -- right and there were 75 -- team last -- 7576. And had a just a crazy man. Well all right and if there's one person there's been around this team idle for six months debut could speak this better than any of us can't. The way this -- -- throughout each other in terms of impacting them in that clubhouse and out -- field. While fascinated by the debate analysts think you guys take different angles on this because even been Carrington who came on the last day of the season with Joseph and I. Could not put his finger on what comes first does the winning breeds chemistry which is the chemistry. Read winning but I don't think chemistry is the proper phrase I think attitude. Is the proper phrase this was eight. A seismic shift in attitude and every guy they brought in coupled with the guys were already here pad like minded attitudes and I think that does make a difference in. Any work that is what is chemistry chemistry is whether or not you like each other gel with -- each other maybe it's not that's not quite the right word for it but if this team -- had a three game losing streak earlier in the instantly turned on each other guys -- hey you know what I'm not gonna do the right thing I'm gonna swing for the fences because I don't trust this guy behind me or I don't -- coming early to take extra BP because I've been slumping at. Because there's still going to be anybody else there or when I get they're gonna be a miserable experience because I don't like this guy back diet or it'll feel confident -- like these guys over their -- my back if I screw up. I have permission to screw up because they all are gonna support me. I mean all of those things I do think factories so if things have gone awry early. Good an events that this down the stretch they didn't win all the games they did does that mean seventeen games I don't know that I -- -- they taught me a bit of money at seventy optimizing. Look at what they -- eighty selling goodies so young lady at forty but it's. Ultimately it's unprovable and that's the frustrating thing for me so much you can't prove something that's I mean argue about something gets in the just floating out there so. And I believe they were all clean shaven they were 197 games they're pretty they're brought what do you think -- if the Michael -- and a pair in their face right. In 96 mile an hour fastball from David Price is coming Big Apple is thinking of it right. Changes everything good yet jaded but you don't -- -- wonder if things about how did you ever gonna jump one on Joseph Maddon on this. But give Greta probably didn't immediately got to do a regrettable that's what all he's do. People always say about that the raids in -- earlier he gave Joseph Maddon get the best out of his players. By wet weather at the very -- GB and that was where. And a club house. Whether it's Jack -- -- knowledgeable in all it's a bullet constrictor clubhouse did it all pastor Brad take all those valve has been all that stuff OK it we've we've made a lot of it I've made fun of it all pretty much all day. But I think it batters for the get why does it matter I don't know what really matters for the Tampa Bay -- Let me give you an example of how that matter this is from Madden you can take from it what you will. The players who were willing to step up and calm within three feet or handle that snake. He felt like that taught you something about the fearless this of that player. And come game five come game six come game seven how I choose to use that player how we may respond. I have learned something about his willingness his attitude. And that makes a difference for now I know why can't play for Joseph -- I'm not going anywhere near. Well you and I -- -- seems you know I had this funded that you that I guess the miles -- the -- of toughness of a guy. Baseball player the right snake bit for goggles disabled list it's unstable rock I'm just an underdog is that I'm. I'm here snake around like that you know and I always -- gets you guys the -- in the spot he thinks. -- -- he went eating got the snake go with the other. This guy was not afraid of a snake guy so he's going to hit it baseball. I don't know what they saw a baseball at 98 that does this -- made mega -- may or may inform his decision I gay rights who. Isn't surgery grows grows about printers gravest -- those amounting to put the snakes oh yeah yeah -- What shows your logic but the comic strip between mad -- Ferrell would be that their players trust the supreme right now Joseph Joseph that's gonna show that at work every single day. And he may criticize John lack which -- probably by criticizing the team's other the way baseball works second criticize all guys. Barrels the same way I think what you show up that you know you trust your boss. You trust that he's not that we over the boss. That sets everything get a place that's why talk about who deserves more credit I don't -- the -- is grades you give fairly plus chart that today. I agree -- deserves more credit for the way this team has played over as I disagree I don't know he's in Atlanta and I'll let it. I would I would I would make -- change that I disagree I would give it to Jerry did over -- a spot and knock on -- -- to -- one guy anyone an a plus but. -- to broaden the guys who who fit with that system he brought in the guys who were going to -- -- the best out of every single daily show at the ballpark and I say this you are what I think. The people to get short change frankly the guys in the office next to jobs and and that's the coach's office. I think would would Torre's done and what would butter has done it all those other guys is ninety days from what we saw last year under the Bobby Valentine -- when no one spoke to each other. And it was open dislike and contempt for each other. Now all the message goes through via the manager's office to the coaches to the players and everybody loves and trusts each other there. And I think the winning -- built on all of that but I think. You have to give credit to the guys who are hands on communicating inside a -- us everyday that's a coaching staff has done an incredible -- Incredible did you guys would get -- you harm and we know what got a regular season had you would give him. Going to a postseason games they are -- once coach gets the ball. Whether it's the -- with -- out in the eight words if they go conventional image implement and I. You feel like it's over why yeah trust him to that point was I was like what Dave said earlier ball -- Don't think he's in the gets stupid in two or three days now the -- and starts thinking two or three days in the didn't seem like the kind of guy who's in the overwhelm. By that spot note if you was the guys I would trust from top to bottom. It be right at the top. Well you've seen too much of it too big of a sample -- now right and it would be a shock to see him. Just spit up all over so well in the NFC so whenever I am I wonder about that I was in the ever this role before me just that especially because it was just the -- that's. It doesn't parents he was a really good picture everything was great except to give up a lot of home -- and he really level we talked about it right it began to get here are the guys are -- and -- the release of our people a fair harassment but he gave Cameron has said look. You're gonna love this guy he does everything great the strikeout to walk ratio is crazy never watch anyone the only problem is he gives up a lot of home run there they're gonna hasn't come -- issue. There were other issues -- 38 years old and the the ability to come back on Tuesday night Wednesday night Thursday night -- very much an open issue. With coaching end of third issue he doesn't throw 95. As a typical closer does so he didn't have that make up in someone's. Idea. But they were wrong. But it's amazing how much he he rose like keep people coming out of -- not identical but if you're looking for for a similar type of a closer to him. -- -- -- instead of a change to splitter from him but they're very similar kinds of pitches and 8890 mile an hour fastball that is this sped up because of the effectiveness of that changer in this case the splitter. And who has the record for most most innings pitched in a playoff season by a closer. People well he also has the. The record proposed -- references to fans. During his tenure here. The other guy besides coaching by the way we -- talk about its progress all right because. If you double -- -- you guys you trust Turkey talk about the list you make -- just more it's coach you want it and Breslow was put up. -- G numbers without the Koji big -- coaching high fives he's going to be so war because there's going to be games where. He can't go six -- -- so resolute gonna have to get to three. He's been so good the second half and he has the -- good again because that's not the one of those two series so weird thing I don't either I or rationally do not -- Although Coburn. Look at the -- again are right handers well Brighton and he's tough -- on either side of the plate equally but I I'd like he's got some gumption there. The -- doesn't get rattled same coach he obviously but those are the guys you gonna use in the eighth and it's been a problem for the global season long. And still lives in my opinion going in the post season. Now that the differences coach he's probably gonna work a lot of these cynics a lot of -- -- ninths and John will not think twice. That's the voice of Dave O'Brien -- -- -- -- hand -- that it appears is with us as well the Red Sox. Road to redemption roundtable we are right across the street from Fenway park at Jerry Remy upstairs on the roof deck it's been beautiful appeared today as Michael -- test has just been perfect weather they got the the date on things out now they're now offering -- monitoring this is for you who did you begin vegetarian eating gluten free menu here John now it's not well now we -- It does yet just under six six of those over airport there I had. Other hockey night in Fenway 50% off all lap aside appetizers tonight and every Thursday every time there's of these game. During bruins' power play you gotta wait for the power play and then order whatever it is you want if you don't why do you think. They chemistry is impossible. 22. To determine -- -- -- to quantify you're going to hate when I ask you about next because I think it's almost even harder again it's a question for the Red Sox heading into tomorrow that's coming up. Here RW media. Well the dreaded there to any peak -- him. And of course the good people white lion providing that final soundtrack. Straight out of the eighties was it your suggestion it was not that was Augusta but I appreciated. Like tramp but -- -- North Carolina and it's bigger download it if they were able to run we'll do some for when the -- very appropriate and those were you always I'm sure want -- to do you play by play over and eighties hair band like that'll live on doubt about it absolutely out of game. Brian is you can tell us round table -- when did you -- That Bobby Valentine was when did you know that was a disaster at goes long before September of 2012. Yeah it was it was pretty early in the season affect -- year Jokester united -- -- -- Bobby. Early in the season now wanna see it was the second week of April things are just starting to you know dip. It was a ball quite a wonderful meal with body to rest troubles were rated tight spot the -- picked up. And everything was great he's a wonderful storyteller. Rackets or get a couple bottles of wine at a great -- And it was at the next morning where next afternoon walked into his office it was like that never happened it was like wow. Here's Bobbie the manager of the Red Sox but. He's answering questions that I'm not asking him he's answering questions that somebody may have asked of hours of light. What happened here I literally walked out of the office looking at my recorder to give to Doug lane are currently at my animals we use this -- He didn't answer any questions that I asked to worry that that -- I don't know and that's what -- try to figure route not that's very Bobby any more than anywhere parity has certainly got there's a lot of things I really liked about Bobbi bit. That was strange to save the second week of April misses the second week well yeah so then I figured. Nearly Dixie queries being gasoline but we are you sick or do Thursday. Not that far from the whole thing with Youkilis and not that that was it right what I have read before barrel on -- are -- my right yeah Jack and a ticket right. What do you think the momentum. That's -- if you don't like the idea of chemistry what do you think the moment that this Red Sox teams that sit here sit around hanging out playing and get your squad scrimmage while the rays every couple days have needed to win a game in order to continue on net. Kirk if you hate chemistry is -- they -- a moment a bigger role that -- a -- to distribute -- early tomorrow. Momentum. Is important as they starting pitcher hello. Well you are Ricky -- and Eric Arthur Carlson well I'll. Well -- pitches well tomorrow they have momentum which is like crap they don't have moment it. Write it again we can't quantify something it really drives me nuts president absolutely. But you know you wanna -- moment is focused at that moment. It jumped around all of it puts a Red Sox have momentum they've won 97 games in the year with really no stress. So which one company -- consecutive games to the Indians win going to last night bright I don't want to be a big how well Texas -- directly out over time like this I believe it more in the game and that there are momentum shifts. That occur in a game what you see a crowd -- -- team what you put everybody kind of heat on and enter Johnny -- wait till I believe I believe and that stuff and I don't know that it carries over to these these long off days -- stuff like that. But these these -- gonna have to sit out there for awhile you get cold you get you get out of the rhythm of playing baseball you talk to any baseball players and all you ever hear is as long as it did my routine as long as -- in my rhythm -- the -- -- can't pitch in the seventh because that's not part of my routine that. They've been out of their routine for a couple of. But doesn't this team. It -- the -- gone about it this year. And the leadership that got certain guys doesn't it. Make it less likely their fact about a five days off and by the way the crowd tomorrow which you a question you -- Abraham on Twitter question is -- to -- 7UP please -- -- rocket made it it's what it wasn't worth it well what -- what did -- -- question what was his ways that we get a little -- this it's -- doll -- that it's over here -- -- -- and I are gonna get. Market it's a big just below that it might not be that fever pitch. But opening first pitch for Jon Lester tomorrow they'll be on their feet and Fenway Park this crowd gets this crowd. Understands it addict every chance -- David Price thousands delegates about. Don't steeler fans that got to play the -- -- steeler fans. And the desperation of forty years out of the playoffs -- -- was the -- a football hockey crowd at a baseball -- will. They are cheering the game right -- -- that the image of the -- another globe. Writer -- -- tweeted it right Dempster started tomorrow. -- -- a surprise me holly yeah otherwise vulnerable to -- -- another source that says that -- They gave it to get it right it's a lot can happen between now 307 joy you were surprised check with -- yeah. Yeah. Talk about what the -- I think I think what they're regular trip. -- little -- -- the layoff hurts a good team last and I don't let some -- obvious but if you go back to back Colorado team in 07. That it has. All that moment -- I -- -- to that they just kept winning -- -- and then they have to see it and they got a little time to kind of think about where they were -- also that same season Cleveland up 31 against the Red Sox young team on the precipice now all of a sudden. They have that off day there were everybody had to sit around and think about it. Manny made the comment about how hey if we lose it's no big deal and it seemed almost free is teammates not to go out there and win the that's where I think the momentum shifts are a little bit more pronouncement. Is just not that good team and they're relying on something beyond just their. -- but that series the Cleveland series our member while if momentum means any thing. They'll win the series in Cleveland dot spec it's going goal in game five that Josh Beckett simply go back to Boston so case close what do -- do we stuck it up. Should have put his ex girlfriend up there's an imaginary entity that is now legitimate mistake they made you know future. There's over the line I thought I'd I. Don't they look at their overly mellow it out -- -- let's talk about it in terms of lived the big picture outside of raised Red Sox. Just again the American League. Most of the year I thought Detroit was the best team Italy then for a while I was Oakland and violet hill right here best team. Record wise is the Red Sox but he got Kirk who's who's the best -- I think the Red Sox for the best. I guess that if you play the players for this long so I would say the Red Sox have quit but it's not the shorts are taught it to campus they play Cleveland I think that might sweep winning four games. I'd say Detroit to close second -- had -- been up and down at those pictures though. Those guys that line but say they're probably the second best team. That's a Detroit lineup that would I would say if Cabrera is healthy the question right now that Asia with that growing because if he's not I don't think they're better than Oakland if they. I think if he's healthy they're -- the Red Sox you know that they're pitching staffs are are are so close and I think the tigers right now and they they have a pitching staff they keep going to a game they led the American League playoff teams. It double digit strikeout games they're the team that cannot three different occasions scherzer Sanchez. Verlander 123 and anyone of those guys complete game got a strike out 1112 guys I give them a slight edge. Over the right here's a crazy thing -- -- -- is hitting this 20. And it it it does does that surprise you but I thought it was a -- I was still a great deal. Yeah you're you're essentially able to trade a guy who was blocked and you organizational had a long term plans for Clijsters. For a guy who could start a playoff game for. But I'm shocked I thought Jose Iglesias I thought 240 Max fifty. I think the the book is still -- -- and I think Minnesota's nick next year at this time if he's -- 310. You've got a story he had a lot -- and I loved that place -- but it a lot of infield hits 2535. Infield -- before he ever left the rhetoric. Now some and it's his old ability he gets out of the box from that side as fast as anybody to gain. I'm not saying he's a burner I'm dissing -- and explosion right out of my ball. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Steven Wright. Make it a sergeant -- -- -- work but that's the reason they're I like our weather outlook. Would would all of you guys agreed that the Red Sox are in the best shape going into the air post season round. Of anybody and I'll go out including saint Louis the Dodgers anybody over the nationally because of the rest they locked it up early. Napoli swift says time arrest L split has said time there everybody you headaches and. Thank you would go along with -- -- Oakland I don't -- does Oakland have a knee injury issues or anybody that banged -- on the -- deal with Cabrera -- been playing every day so that they have that element. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Boys thank you so much for comedy here at -- we have your pure for pick which is a -- five. Red Sox for. Sox have five. A -- support compressor four are gonna go Sox five as well if I don't forget tomorrow morning at 830 with Dennis and Callahan amid a hand another pair of tickets. To give away for game two of this series that's at 830. Tomorrow morning I'll put those guys stick around this roundtable will continue Mikey out of his joke estate we -- the dorks WEEI dot com Alex and probably on as well thanks -- -- a lot of fun thanks and good holds. Dear Jerry -- here WEEI.

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