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Buster Olney, ESPN: Dempster deserved longer suspension

Aug 21, 2013|

Buster Olney joins Mut and Merloni to discuss the Dempster suspension, the Yankees reaction, and the AL East.

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Set about what's the world coming through. But I agree with his five games and the baseball's got to find a way to look at. -- positional players and pitchers you know is there a way to look at their suspensions and make them you'll feel more even. -- at bats verses starting pitchers who barely missed -- start with an off day. And areas right now our buddy from ESPN Basra only. Up -- let's start there he gets five games Ryan Dempster does was that enough in your mind for Major League Baseball the suspension. Now. And I am thinking about it you know overnight after it was an outside that you know we pretty much know the low end of the scale if you. Getting you retaliation situation and you throw at somebody's gonna get five games they -- it -- very least potentially. Upset your next start. Although it doesn't in this case in on the high end. Already ten games that Ian Kennedy got and the -- street and MLB game in ten games is because he Truman years that great Ed. They really see are concerned about the head hunting is Ian Kennedy hit into the body probably what got -- -- seven games. And I think when you look back at what cancer did. You know he's trying to sort it into that they'll buy it and gains. Was it more than a simple retaliation hit some data but yet what -- intent. And he did it multiple times and on the other hand the ever Portman physical jeopardy from my -- now. So I think he probably should've gotten somewhere in the 8:19 am really surprised to the Major League Baseball which is an and it shouldn't enter into the equation but we know it. You know where they're concerned about the public relations -- all list. We know that there's this segment and that are wondering it is so personal. Vendetta against Alex Rodriguez. And by giving -- a five game suspension he just fuel that. And in a position to where -- they could easily give them more and it wouldn't actually acted Dempster -- in the way to schedule -- Yeah and we talked before -- is almost like a hand shaken awake -- we'll give you five grind you know because. As you dismissed him with a day off Thursday a day off on Monday they would have to give Ryan Dempster. Really like at twelve. Day suspension to affect this rotation one bit and it was gonna work on on on regular rest so it would have affected the team. But I don't think it would have sent a message you know it and I I I wasn't. I just that in mind and be honest with you the -- and hit a rut. But you can't open it up and by giving -- say this that worked up the socks 'cause of the schedule but it's not gonna work out for you on your team so you do what you're gay content. Exactly and they pretty dividend nine and it would have -- it would have been that big deal but it would. It would have been something it would have been remembered by some of the teams and players involved. -- diet -- in the more I thought about what happened and indeed our economy and a comfortable position of Orion is dead unity well I was pitching inside and we're assuming. What his intent -- at all for those pitches but to me if he wanted to send a message I thought it was the first pitch. I think it left handed bat if he throws a ball behind Alex Rodriguez our national television. An -- yet. Let that statement and everybody in the world would have gotten him. And he think about it he handled that way and you would've had a situation where he complicates. You know gamer Europe facts. Potentially or create a rally for the Yankees and he wouldn't put himself in jeopardy of being suspended. But handling it the way that he did in taking and that next step. To be honest I don't blame Joseph Girardi can be -- I do think there's something. And William stood in that box in a way to not too gutless to against -- I 95 miles per hour. It's not as simple thing to have a guy throwing repeatedly fastballs and have her own target to make. -- I understand that buster and I understand Joseph Girardi is got to defend his guy W been around Joseph you've interviewed during games you've been around a lot during his playing career is -- year career. When he says things like what's the world coming to about a guy again our own -- over -- it's it's a little bit hypocritical for a -- o'clock for fifteen years that the act like it's never happened before that he not -- -- clubhouse or been talked about happening before. -- and now what I I agree with you I think that was rhetoric what but I on the other hand I work. REE spyware in uniform. And out and never will be. If -- were in -- position I can understand why players cannot be -- from there guys on the team who don't like -- retreat they don't like situation. But he made them angry. That in their eyes had a picture on the other eighteen. And it just didn't throw one pitch behind guys need to repeat -- shot at a and so after the game that's why. They were still angry Joseph Girardi was still angry and I and I told the story earlier in the week mean I covered -- supplier. -- not. Used profanity. Even casual conversation. And aggregate market drop to eat pieces of the earth and we could run at eight. A -- -- down from the field during the course that it -- -- hadn't gotten that much because he was hot and I think it's that. First thing you think about the I think. Whether you agree with him or not I think -- put words in appealing to a lot of people like. You know what goes Ryan Dempster beat want to decide and I don't know I agree -- that. But I hate negative point of view. You know that the Yankees had the other night. I've most of their played pretty good baseball anyways coming into that series the Reynolds good pick up even -- to twelfth. Would you -- football nobody it's nine home runs it's gonna help that -- Soriano A-Rod is back. Granderson is back. That maybe this brings an even closer together but they were playing good baseball coming into it are you taken them they for real right now. I think they're a realist the other teams played count them I don't think there and -- close to a great scene there's no question that Alex. Make them better. I don't know how in the world -- functions and all the stuff swirling around that night. In a tweet out in the night in the game and he really should be special -- when the baseball that is available -- the next two years. His -- relishes that and -- seem so relaxed. It's sort oddities that make them better. I think it's really gonna come down to what it's easy to -- he would give them that I actually think that these. The rolling better as well in terms of these -- stop at any point this year at all a lot city. It is not commanding the ball at all innate talent media today is -- time it's spotting the ball especially inside the left handed hitters. And what they'll use gives them because they don't get production from those two guys I don't even catching up but your -- And our only game in front of them and we seeing the Red Sox regret I mean let's face it the Red Sox. Play out spot to lose I still I think right now can debate the best team in the division. But the -- gonna have to come back to the Yankees and I don't think you could not good to jump ball well that way up by the so. Our weekly conversation in Basra only hear of ESPN easily but Lou the you mention the race for second we've talked about. There schedule buster and I view it as a real detriment when they -- Havoc and off they -- through the rest the way they're gonna play at one point. Like 37 games in 38 days that we talked to. Joseph Maddon talked to people on the team how to gonna manage all these gains while the Red Sox -- have. Two off days this week and then really three off days in the final two weeks the regular season. When I get this story at the all star break and I had. Here this city as having the worst schedule in the second half in baseball got a call from someone with a -- exit. Really you really think. That there are scheduled to separate and apart because we play all these American -- -- in. Yeah I did no question that if you were to do the pros and the content to win the division their schedules the topic but I -- -- -- they're the best suited to handle it. It's a rotation right now in the best shape of any team in the division. Especially. If in fact they get that more back at some point. It would David Price the other night even -- a bad night he'd find a way to battle throughout -- back. Dad duty at the underrated part of the race this year compared to previous years they got a lot more depth in their lineup in his pitching staff and -- haven't read it. I -- fourteenth kinda outside kind of look and and Jason here. Notice sent to get Cleveland Kansas City any of Baltimore in New York any it would one of those four would you say it would make us the most interest. I think Cleveland is gonna be back maintain. To watch because it's again to go back to strike schedule and a couple days and -- general -- you know quoting different number -- we have. X number of games against teams over 500 weapons schedule. Cleveland last 23 games now in Cleveland the great team by any stretch. But their last 23 games guys are against teams under 523. Consecutive games. Are and they get to plate seemed like the -- and I think we get the Astros. Eating ugly. And so while the American League east teams are going about their steel cage match -- beat the heck out of each other. Every game feeling like a playoff atmosphere did you go into Baltimore and night. Pretty Orioles it must win. The Indians for all their flaws. They do have a really people lined up in terms of making pitches work a lot of way to Red Sox do. And you could see -- absolutely queuing up on the mediocre teams it played on stretched that is -- need to need to watch Stan Strachan. That tiger's team you know in terms of their bullpen how this thing is going to be set up the I don't think that the best team in baseball on the run had been on his great TV that is a fatal flaw at some point their bullpen just collapsing on itself buster Detroit. I think they're OK I think you're gonna get into the post I don't think many questions you know they're gonna go -- With some heat in the postseason and it's gonna come down. Did their group alert you know who's throwing well it's gonna be a lot like last year where. They were able to overcome some of the bullpen issues but the bottom line is up -- he just wasn't very good. And in one when he got to the postseason and it caught up in the World Series. All we bigger chance talking about it you were away. Now that baseball's come through with the instant replay Basra -- -- from Lou and myself we ball wanted replay but three challenges. Her side in the way it's set up one in the first six innings and and two more and then if you don't. You don't lose the challenges if you win you get to keep -- seek could have a limited and and some stuff is. Is challenge a -- lay it just seems like eight. They're doing too much what what's the response been from the people you've talked to around baseball on the proposed instant replay for 2014. Team officials I talked to are appalled. They cannot believe that after all the hand wringing in the pocket who were working on a system working on it that this is what they came up with. First thought and this is my own opinion and an iPad and baseball individual community totally agree -- that. The idea that you would develop -- system. Through which it's still possible that egregious calls. Will not be corrected in other words the manager mistakenly. Argues challenge views and ran out of them -- and -- thirteenth inning of a playoff game. And there was no way to overturn a call. Is unbelievable to me I can't believe he's -- he's been going to the whole process and let's have a working mantra being get be getting many calls right as we possibly can the second thing is that -- -- mind boggling to me when you're talking about. You know Tony grosses and he'd managed for how many years and Joseph Torre and it's for how many years and juncture all watching games. If they would develop the system. Which clearly when you talk about energy challenge is he's just right for delayed because. The weak retail like coach's challenge work in the NFL is there's a play clock. Our -- coaches have to decide within like 35 seconds forty seconds whether or not to throw -- swagger call time out to -- that. Whether or not he challenged in baseball. A play clock so and thick -- sent me over the weekend. No manager is gonna challenge in let nobody writes -- what's gonna happen. Big hitters are hitters will be like -- but in my side wait I got a good doctor at third base coach. You know the pitcher and a catcher gonna have a conversation. And they're gonna wait into the clubhouse -- Runs down from the club out into the dugout they go and challenge or don't challenge. And that's when the manager will do it. There's no mechanism to force the action along that's why manager's challenge in baseball is a terrible idea. Couldn't agree more and Woolsey with against change at all between 2014. Of the players and team speak up before the owners. Ratified as buster rates up is always the -- talk the next week. Our bus -- BSP and joining us here on the eighteenth the hotline AT&T the nation's fastest. Now the most reliable forgy LT TE network and of course -- a buster. Is brought to you by our friends at Toyota of Nashua Bob Draper record -- entire crew visit the all new Toyota Nashua megaplex -- the hot deals. During their summer sell -- going on now. YE a RS restoration specialists and by -- space in other check mark. For -- in terms of predicting the Red Sox lineup it is out for today. You thought to be no. Zander Bogart's you're correct. -- very Victor Reno Pedroia Ortiz back in their first against the lefty Gomes a left Saltalamacchia catching. Drew was it short. Middle Brooks at third through brought as the starting pitcher so you have. Going up against the righty last night Bogart's battle lefty we supposed to play against a strange last minute set up there. The saying yeah. Within make that switch -- -- three -- in a row when you can do whatever you want -- -- bullets and against the -- -- you want to get him in there if you knew lefty was coming game three went to twelve miles straight at the scrap them last night and put drew and Ortiz was -- told an off -- the -- -- crazy like Stephen -- does just electoral. Have a couple pixie sticks and really just went crazy or not shower. As they go -- very victory -- Pedroia Ortiz -- Saltalamacchia drew. Middle Brooks and do brought later on this hour we will talk to our Michael fancy football we come back. The folks any sports marketing for channel argument credit channel media and market racers today thirteen thousand person. Survey of new England and asked you what you liked about England sports. It's a very interesting answers including answers on the Boston Red Sox will get to that next.

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