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Curt Schilling: ARod is Jose Canseco

Aug 6, 2013|

Curt Schilling joins Mut and Merloni to discuss the suspensions handed down by MLB for biogenesis. He discusses ARod's decision to appeal and his tainted career.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

I don't think we have any -- Genesis PD press conferences or suspensions today but no we did yesterday. But ESPN's coverage was lights out Sutcliffe -- Curt Schilling part of that group as well who was are reacting live to what was going on. And it was it it's always good when I get it I watch it a -- guys be honest at all any back and that's what shall -- yesterday watching that covered -- gonna show because did I hear. Iran playing third then fourth plead the fifth. They get that right work today here A-Rod -- third and fourth plead the fifth deadline will play a third batting fourth we'd have a good line right yeah portfolio of. Number of the Plato was Margaret. There was a Twitter follower that through that a third. That -- it's probably. The worst environment for them elect -- to be on in it all off the cuff reacting biko's. I can tell you about 30000 times during my career I would I would look about how far away from the ballpark. And that half hour was always -- -- it's either without power where I would be going OK you know what that probably wasn't the right thing for me this day. And they are what are important -- -- I get home it would be oh my god I can't believe you did that. -- Other it just as someone watching yesterday it was a great reaction curtains came across as honest and and I faced a lot of time breaking it down but as she sat through the A-Rod press conference Pacific league. What was that was there one thing that stood out to you as she watches and higher. One feeling one line that A-Rod said he still today -- are shaking their heads and I can't believe he said that. Their ability to think it really came out number one he had two opportunities. To two point blank did you do this question where. I've always looked at it like I looked at when you have to and I don't -- back implement when someone asks you about a player that you -- You Pete Sampras won a great teammate or anything else. The person who answers that question. And committee big guys that have been caught there's two answers to did you keep did you take seriously think he didn't know or any other answer. And any other answer means yet. And so does -- those 20. I don't know what what that there are a lot of legal issues and hey you don't wanna say this and you don't want which you know is that there could be some actual real world legal implications. But nobody can now Dan and anything other -- no means yet. And that's the world religion and and twice yesterday that put him on the spot where he could -- I did not do this these charges are false what the none of them have done. -- of them have denied this and you know I -- and -- by the fact that fourteen guys were shown evidence -- talked with some people that were intimately involved. And -- intimately involved in this process. And as late as Saturday just camp was trying to get a bit of a hundred games. And and the people that it's all public incredulous quite quick one. And what we have there's no way you're getting out of this. Just take the punishment. Such a -- maybe you'll get the play a little bit after this is over now I can't imagine that they're not gonna go for the whole ball what. Yes Sheila I was met yesterday when it came out we're talking about it and publisher quotes from -- earlier on a similar thing. The guy did it he's not looking to get off clean he's just trying to minimize his games he loses that it's an admission of guilt. But you know weight rod he's the most insecure individual and just wants people to like him but that that battles lost. While he did not -- Clinton did it again. This is visible to have to -- that what he's done this before. And he you know he did all the -- but there're couple things that. That you know that the county park for me is when you sit in that format and he talked about the things that are happening it becomes very -- appreciate. And and you know -- you can't -- everything you say what you know now I've I've minimize your mistakes and but but he. You just so that we want people understand I'm not talking from a place of of our of production ultimately I'm not into an -- -- -- economists -- in my life and but I didn't see I didn't see I didn't take steroids and it didn't -- it's yeah it's and he hit ball I still believed if you look at that the body of evidence. Around Canseco and -- -- all the things it'll come out blast at a -- is the connection to Miami. And the hurt demand I think he is out to thank you Jose Canseco I think his entire career he has -- performance enhancing drugs. You mentioned talking to some of the guys who had the evidence shorted them in Major League Baseball Kurt how how damning in your mind is what they have in Iraq from what you've heard what. -- -- you got one of the quotes. From from from someone -- at CNET was being mountain of evidence and the content of the evidence made me physically ill. It is -- on and apparently just overwhelming. Which was which was did you look at that it but he was never has never been fighting big scale is never been saying I didn't do this. The -- ballpark over negotiations around the lake but the suspense. What they find it it is I don't know the word irony error or -- it but I find it to be incredibly. We're that we're not talking about the fact he did it. He he he admitted to doing that basically by his actions and reactions in my opinion. PSE admission of doing it a positive test that puts you -- categories that you Leos have opinions of the obstruction of justice was trying to buy evident that aren't that way yet and that's part. But here's the one that really bothers me -- mean you can talk about this have you heard anything. The recruitment. Right encouraging young players an innocent prompting crews are big boys. But some young players that's one of the reasons wired -- -- it really in the pied piper type of thing at all that's disgusting. That -- didn't talked about yesterday there's a couple of topics that that was that are very young uncomfortable. From accomplishments -- you know did. The -- -- that -- fourteen -- that's an important players are Latin. Almost. Like they've got to take that into a bit result fourteen or not of the original fourteen. We're represented by aces right now I'm opinionated -- -- -- neat thing. But I -- as a player that's not a coincidence because when you when I was represented by it and I knew all the players might agents represented. And it was discovered that it seemed you knew that you'll find them. If that's how I found out about API hey guys I would API that's what this is where -- -- unchecked without doubt -- atomic politicians all of those kind of guys out. I found it stunning that that both those things what those sorts of stuff going on yesterday but I haven't -- in those conversations are going to be coming out quickly. -- he goes back and he makes that the report about wanna play with his Brothers and yeah I feel like -- a -- a -- I'd like you nailed -- -- when he talked before this game yesterday that you never play again and yankees uniform I was convinced that the same thing now goes back their current and I can't imagine it's going to be a real fun at your Brothers could wait in games for the Yankees in that clubhouse between now and the end of the year. Well look at a particular little back and implement. I guarantee you that every player at a club also an amen and welcome back book about -- -- do you know -- underwent. So no -- yet that that you were guys that from the Atlanta Braves talk about how fatigued you are talking about this you know he players are just. They're they're they're like really we really have to do this. But at the same time. He supported by the what do you like you can -- cannot play with guys who don't like you put you guys don't get along with some of our -- pull the -- in the same direction. So that -- I don't think it was a lot of -- -- -- -- -- yesterday I predicted he would walk in the clubhouse and sent something out loud incredibly awkward and he did it. That McNamee would just spoke volumes about what happened in the sit there and conspiracy the -- -- everybody here. Like within comparable chuckle and everybody -- rhetorical growing. Yeah yeah yeah like I gotta compare him to the the troubled brother that you find out shown up for Christmas and you like -- Christmas dinner you like oh man okay get a deal with this today. And a comfortable and gone back and every time we watched some of the prep -- and if you watch the threatened pressed Robert as well. I can't vote but one were they kept coming back it was awkward it was so awkward and uncomfortable to watch. Because that -- like he is the only guy in any event that has no clue what's going on. -- me ask you this MLB. Where do you stand with -- first offense 1622. Offense lifetime ban you've got -- deter these guys. I think that's lol -- I really do I think I -- if you saw some some you know -- with mr. -- very very unhappy about the statement that the players association put out. Pump but it the players association statement is exactly what I expected. You know what but couldn't do yesterday what I'm sure he wanted to do. Was once invoked best interest that never happens I step on the field again however I think what we have now is news. A relationship than an accident on both sides civil are going to allow them to reenter or reopen part of if not all of the CPA. Except it doesn't. Portland -- -- isn't gonna do it it's not a deterrent it's not gonna work what do you do in an error as a former player rep -- my biggest concern. I know it's minimal and I know that chances are small but I've always I was always terrified of that false positive until once like either I could potentially -- some chances are you're not. But by that -- you know I I would be all for overwhelming evidence on -- strike and you're done overwhelming evidence being defined as something. You know significant that the players would agree to but I I I got to believe we're headed to a two strikes and you're done forever scenario that's the only way. Hitting the pockets of the players is the only way to change this. -- my last PD about Genesis question is Nelson Cruz selfish for what he did take in the penalty -- not playing with his team. The rest the season a team that's fighting for playoff spot right now. Well. Are you are department -- Noted that that was destroyed. -- ticket detect steroids yourself running back. I mean so so this was not a crime for them that it took find religion and make an unselfish decision. I'm not sure that the Vista than anybody would have made it met in those -- in their shoes anyway. Because they have to bet they would -- Nelson Cruz will be played for somebody next year my copy of the fighters but he'll be playing for somebody and the week I can't I don't know what they hit will be in preconceived these guys were taken to spent the next here but this year you know for -- -- they were. People talking or you know he can come back for the playoffs there's no possible way I don't feel there's any possible way. But these players would -- out the ability to be here on the big league club which they won't be able to -- They're not going to be your they've been -- play in the policies of the effectively done. -- listed -- does he says the -- of the union Jonny Gomes came out now though that you said the they have to act -- -- there -- top spot right. Will union dues go to -- Alex Rodriguez's lawyers. -- -- players be paying for that. I don't. I don't I would imagine absolutely but it. I mean at the end of the day. If you think about the volume of money that is in the fund in the pension fund in the in the a man it is it is like sort of -- here -- battleship. However I don't -- principal -- I mean. You know. But there are I would tell you there -- 90%. Of the card carrying members of the union are are incredibly good guys and they're not cheating. Maybe 90% -- -- but it like to think we're there are now I don't know I don't know what what that is but yet the union will provide the legal defense for Iran if that's -- accuses. Now if you listen there is stored on these scenes and lawyers. You know the way George points in his girlfriend's. You know it's it's part of a daily -- -- coming up on him. Well what Wallace is going on the Red Sox have quietly at a huge turnaround the rotation really all year long we've talked on offered the occurred about different guys. I was curious your thoughts on Felix you brought who came into the year overweight and everyone was down their -- noted spring training had too much weight on. -- took about a rotation for start and since then he's gone fifteen consecutive starts three or fewer earned runs what is in the turnaround for him from what you seen on a field. Well first opening it in and held -- pretty well I was I was really impressed by the blast was seeking him out and he did not have his fastball. He's a low economic data you know they'll they'll peak -- 95 or 94 -- got a good strong powerful. He didn't have that the other day and instead of with young pitchers when they don't have good stuff you can see a three and two thirds. He hits or walks six -- day. Seven -- He went out there without his commitment that's one of those. Who look a little moment when when he got -- to a duopoly go wow I -- horrible I didn't have anything and I still are shut out for seven innings. It doesn't the kind of things have happened for you to go to the next level and I think he's he's the guy that. Right now the playoffs started and he went out there for game three until I'd be pretty excited about what was what was possible. And I'm sure he's -- there's a good group put guys around that he'll be huge advantage for -- -- put him his shot monsters in his rotation. And from the velocity perspective that was always my big concern when I was looking hitters and I was approaching. -- patient implant I want to see somebody that threw as hard as I did broken simply got Jon Lester. The lead on that I got that huge advantage supplement it's got a lot of veteran presence on that stopped. Is definitely stepped into the -- to go to that you know I figured that learning curve bears accelerated by the people we're surrounded by. Yet maybe lest you need to look at him now to wanna ask you about him because. Here's what I see it's almost like front runner mentality -- in seven starts at point three of five runs or more which to me it's. Go to Vegas a two runs -- I wanna see him give up two runs and then go seven and give up two runs and that's never the case she -- a two to three early and it's one of the starts every time. Well -- and I -- -- you didn't -- force sergeant to a transition between the artists now he has done he has started to hit away. And then put Butler Paul does Brazil and moved back at that -- as -- supper club. The he started -- -- And and arguably -- And populist element and it played him this is the guy with what -- stop their houses and if he can find a way. The minute that transition from the inside out that didn't eat I don't know what you got wider. Allied it was my forehand tottering and medical. -- -- -- current -- -- -- -- -- particular I've ever played with the scene that I could put him in space and completely because he was 611200. And it was intimidating I don't think you can -- -- the left hander -- and I thought -- start to make a turn this import -- starts ago. Went and with the Oriole game and that was a good start reported that -- He's the -- when mark at the home run off them. Are -- able to solo homers and want to read -- bill. It is it's definitely it it's the way and that Jon Lester understands and that particular concept and start to do that. It got to a particular -- only when he can make them. I might be different but everybody is -- look at it from him but he's going to be adjustment before that and that's an accused and I. I think you can have a monster second -- It'll be interesting to see if he can turn it around after a tough start the other ninety's Curt Schilling and his birds joining us here on a Tuesday occur we appreciate doctor soon. I Curt Schilling ESPN AT&T hotline AT&T forgy LTE speeds up to ten times faster than three GAT and T. 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