Jul 18, 2013|
John Henry joins Mut and Merloni in studio to discuss a wide range of Red Sox and baseball topics. Among other issues, Henry discusses the future of Ellsbury and Pedroia in Boston, his relationship with Francona, the team's 'stay disciplined' philosophy, and John Farrell.
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You might get in the win column the first 97 game. The season. More than or simulation shows we we are simulate we pay a lot of attention simulation before the season started. We were. I think second in our simulations. Where -- your first I believe saw the simulation work a deal with -- get up with -- you don't Miami after. Our simulation it was. I actually don't remember it was because we we do them at various times with the last lines close and shortly after. Opening day. And Tampa was the was the division winner and so we've been watching temperament more closely might. And as you've seen him playing extremely well pitching news extremely strong opens. That's an -- spring training and it was a lot of things going known they would start to focus here on baseball -- it's a lot more fun this summer. Last summer given two years ago. Yeah it is. Is only one thing that really bombs and that's losses. As a player and you drew knows the one thing. Players though I think do a better job. Absorbing losses. People. Yeah all the players and look at that is teams show a short memory write it seems that you have a different team I've talked about it before and we go back that makes -- a -- what's your additions. It actually might mean more of that the 03 team maybe how it started back and because. Guys that'll -- you know David Ortiz was you know it just came on to the scene and he starts this culture this change of baseball players that. It felt good. A lot of brits now feel good about -- fifty wins is nice but enjoyed this team more it seem like a focus. -- 03 was cowboy up and yes sort of a feeling his hands as these days sort of feeling it is mentally we're. This is going to be fun -- and when I see Jonny Gomes that every time he wins ball games I told us on. Yeah it's there's this this feeling you know hero fun it was three. Was that an emphasis John when you look back at the offseason that you guys had -- safe fun. I guess the war we've we've used -- chemistry that this team the focus is on baseball are the way to go about their business as -- said attic fans appreciate. Was that part of the offseason plan to make it more fun in that clubhouse I think. There's always been an emphasis. Among some of us that baseball as a pitcher vs hitter and you -- -- of course bowl but it's pitcher vs that are so. I think you know I mean in past years we've had less than worry about chemistry. Imus is chemistry affect that dynamic like. Weather's a pitcher or hitter and but last year we had a real lesson with chemistry can do you can do to a club one. Has happened this year is further indication of that and I think we I still think we appreciate hated. How much chemistry. Means for baseball it would sets have a change -- a lot's been on the -- Bill James part of the organization we know that his focus like you said on numbers. Fair to say that what you do in this offseason may be different than what you plan to do in the future with this team which is focused on a canister parliament. Yes split that. That was that's only one part there's obviously. We. The way really and we took a certain turn after beginning in 2008. Away from our basic. -- core philosophy. And what we. I would say may have last year we decided that we. Yeah I think some emphasis in the compact that. Basic core philosophy. -- a team that was put together last year. You know at the end of the year you guys swing and everywhere right the on base percentage apparently and so I can put people who batted it's going to since -- started. You know that 2011 team could have that -- mean you had some guys that would grind it but it just didn't work. Was it is it September like you said it was a lot of call ups and things like that was it. Gore lost to do with that the approach at the plate that call plus it to do with the personalities you bring it in with the amount of money is spending money usually given in. Well I think a lot of it was centered on on -- at -- and on the on the approach. From pitchers as well so I think Bill James termed it the collapse of the center. Which is you start to press. Things aren't going well who's -- dissension losing. Everyone wants to sort of win the game and every bats instead of having. What we had four decade here. Grinding on that and attacking hitters that your. We saw people. Not doing in we have the worst at bats. Consistently. And I understand and they approach the said the approach was had over the years. I think it started to move away from on base percent. And from attacking hitters. You -- this though Alex -- put together this amazing for part piece but I mean at the yellow flag but it wasn't made it really was an animal and it part three. And it was won't Courtney talk about successful people in business in life and sometimes Olympics while hot and all wrong for him. It is a quote -- we say is often a very successful men who should know better but who have been so successful that they feel a bit invulnerable. A sense of invulnerability. The sense of entitlement. You think you guys had so much success that you just felt about what pushed but -- pushed. It was go to war you had a nice cool we can go sign the best player it doesn't matter anymore we're gonna be successful. -- got away from now I think. That's too much of an indictment I'm maybe I would retract this that's the this term entitlement. But there's certainly you do get a sense I think there was a sensitive invulnerability. After you'd. You know it's one thing to win one World Series than when you and second you really given it. A validation of your philosophy. But instead of moving forward with we sort of took a turn away from lost because everybody -- everybody in baseball. Was aware it was obvious of what we were doing -- trying to accomplish. And so I think the you know people look for an edge. And be a little too much. Enamored with the thought of we will find new and better pitches and but it it. But it was at it kicked it more into. Our riches is that we can spend money rather than me now to play now I don't think we ever. Focused on how much then as now wants. It really was an edge and their forum meant. In my mind you really did that didn't have to move from and where we were in 20072000. And to follow up in Alex's story eat you mentioned that. October or November of 2011 after you guys who -- the best team in baseball for three and a half four months it fell apart that story's been talked about. It was at that point where maybe you took more of re engagement and the process is that was that a fair assessment that that time in the end of 2011 after the year. You became analysts say more hands on the more involved in the -- day and less. Other delegated to just say baseball operations go do your thing and will meet up afterwards. Well it's fair to say that we've never been disengaged. Sure we've always been engaged but. It's also fair to say that we don't get involved in. We don't do the general manager's job we don't lose CEO's job and retire if retirement Tom and myself. Right is that who you're you're you're addicted the end of the fall 2011. You know getting maybe more. More involved was the the big word the phrase that was used. Don't think you're always involved. I think that. We weren't there were certain things that we weren't aware of that I don't think any of the story where and perhaps. It is there was a point where is probably disappointing to read things in the newspapers. We felt we should have. Known about. Were talking a Red Sox owner John Henry nice that the join us here in studio get to a break a lot to talk about the Red Sox -- fifty. Eight wins first place in the -- no matter what the simulations said in house they're in first place the AL -- John Henry -- studio more next don't go anywhere. Just played better and we we fits really well. We've we've swung the bats -- we play good defense. Everybody's been consistent guys that stepped up from the guys that when guys went down got hurt and stuff like that so it's been a team effort. That is Dustin Pedroia we're joined us last week it's not learned on a 37 WEEI joined by Red Sox principal owner John Henry here in studio 58 wins. At the break for your team Jon and a new manager John -- guy you're familiar with. But I have given a ton of credit for this team successor in the first -- like the focus. Day in day out has been on baseball and I and it's a major change from what. Happened last year for this team what do you seen from John Ferrell here in the first half. Well there's been a consistency. And we -- a few articles in the last. Couple of days. And have gone into it summed up he's. He's been everything you can ask for manager. TJ equally. -- -- -- -- -- And his his day to day approach I mean this is a very resilient team. And then you can see it in the manager's office as to why that might be the case. Not just the individuals. Take the field and it's a certain. Methodology -- certain approach from. Our manager is coaching this is really strong coaching staff. But he sure you you watch these shifts. And our but it amazed and biography. It's good to talk to each other -- -- that held its coaches that that it's it's fun to watch a team granola do which on its being familiar and people that he brought over. You know being familiar with it -- So to speak studio bring in a culture back in here. Look at last year and it's just you look at -- it was just total it was chaos it was just a different story maybe of players maybe it wasn't. I don't know but that stability seems to be back when he looked back at last year. Your thoughts on Bobby V was it just a bad idea just didn't work. Well and residents stake in in retrospect. It's certainly -- I thought he did everything he could from his perspective. Or from from. When he should've done by. You know -- he's a force of nature. And he's strong personality. Did not work with that group. Was he said strong personality was his personality. -- -- too much of a distraction like -- Farrell this year Johnny's. He's not saying -- made news Bobby made news every single day did you did you expect that when you hired -- my guess is my question that every day every other day. He would say something that would create some sort of brush fire with this team. -- he'd been out of. Out of me usually graceful for a decade so. We. We thought he had he would have mellowed him and he had mellowed to a certain extent but he should say. Milk if he had mellowed. A but it wasn't but I don't blame I don't blame Bobby for last year there were a number of factors. -- last year. You can blame us as much as -- What happened last year. But well last year was in my mind than normal this year people seemed to be. Surprised -- in first place or were decent team. I think everybody predicted this last. Almost unanimously. But. I think that's because you get you know when you have a bad years. You assume. That is gonna continue and heard a lot of a lot of feeling as if the good day's over with the Boston roots. As a franchise -- a great run. What eleven years ten years. But last year was -- certainly anomalous year. And ended tremendous job of making the transaction to move players on the -- And we now have a group we've brought in new group players who really are thriving in this market a market which is. Which other players is you know. Have. And in the past seen this is a really tough market tried right tough medium market try to plan for. -- -- You don't see them at all this year it's not just the change in managers and it's change in personnel is -- to give then -- Arrington. A lot of credit for its. Out of the -- tuck the ball blame up Cuba should give you credit -- with out. Bringing in Bobby without maybe exposing or bottoming out what you wanna call it you make that tree with -- LA -- sort of hit that reset button. You think you preached a lot in the offseason hurt in spring training everybody talked about discipline. And you'll really all over depth. I think two things that you've hit on as far as discipline goes so far to go get that what happens in a couple weeks but so fought -- disciplined. It wasn't any overwhelming signings nobody was going crazy -- guys he brought in media wise fan base wise but -- state -- stayed away from. The Josh Hamilton's of the world. And depth wise maybe through the organization a few small pieces you can on both of us. Look at every team I think in sports underestimates. The impact. Injuries but it what you're going to go through so. We may have one of the things we've as -- that we started. In a new direction they may have last year. One direction ones that we need greater depth we need greater depth and so. In order to have greater depth. You've got to you can't necessarily go out and spend. You've got to -- and runs and 25 million dollars on one player. Spend a hundred million for. Makes it difficult to have depth and we have. We -- every team has to rely upon staying healthy to one degree or another but I think every team as tendency to. Underestimate. Much depth mean. What about the discipline cited in the and that's part of the two with the signing. Not going after guy like Hamilton Europe trade -- couple weeks away. And listen you wanna win -- anybody you know Larry does and I know -- does. And he's trying to stay disciplined this when you get tested I've because he's two and a half games up and first place. Two I stayed disciplined or do well sudden get a call saying I could at least three years 77 million dollars but he could give us over the -- -- more difficult will be the next few weeks. To remain disciplined. We you know. That's an excellent point we have a very disciplined gentlemen. And it would have been very easy. We were talking in the offseason about going after high priced free agent. He says this particular free agent is not the right it would have been easy for him to have said we need based on what. We need to make a statement. -- Have credibility. Will play. Where. Yeah and you heard it the fact that we didn't do that you've heard a lot of criticism that these are all nice guys. But. They don't add up to enough win. So again I would credit bill and Sharon and with having this one and and the result we're we're going to. We're we're gonna have the Kansas went hates and we can we have in the past you remember in the first. Five years -- We have tremendous this we knew we weren't giving out 56. Year contract. Well okay -- you bring that up you've got some players. Jacoby Ellsbury this year Dustin Pedroia in a couple years John that they're contracts come up are you saying the Red Sox are out of the six year contract business I know that Victorino got three wanna give Napoli three in your thought was paid them more but fewer years is the team done. Giving up any long term deals to their own players are free agents now it's not done. His you have to look at every every situation. Every play differently Dustin Pedroia for instance as you mentioned clearly different player than. It's it's dust it would be different than going out into the free agent market. And signings. But I I think that then it goes without saying. That we needed to get younger we were. -- and that. With the youth you have fewer injuries more it's easier to have. Going on signing a 3233. Year old free agent. -- moment and giving him a six year contract news. You you always know and we all and we knew we were doing it. That. The last what two or three years contract probably going to. It's it's when your paying the player the most and you're probably getting at least. Leading up to Jacoby Ellsbury this is a guy that I still think is one of the it is impossible to define. Yeah I should've said -- -- and Newton Jacoby. Recently Jacoby is there is while it's a different guy having used as a younger player but still you know as well as -- -- Scott Boris. Is his agent and he says he's not a talked to Ben at all it's a free agent market. Ready to find Jacoby Ellsbury too is a great ballplayer but he's he owed nine. Is it 2011 player -- you will see right now too close -- going to be difficult. Well it's always difficult trying to predict performance. Based. -- You know Bill James -- and science in the Major League. It's it's not Major League equivalency. They project every year code code number again. A project but boy it's imperfect science and they spent two decades. On this team players and do based based on injuries based upon performance. And that's who really imperfect science but it. Colonials Berry is tremendous baseball. And but Scott has -- history is. Now making his players to free agency we have. To be here. With Scott. And yes but. There's nothing to report. As knows those. It was a 100% of the time career. Well take his -- -- -- -- you thinking you know everything he's Rickey Henderson -- -- -- it -- talking to you we don't know that but you're a good spot to be patient with a guy like Jackie Bradley and there is an option -- not stuck. Well again. Where where we have more depth than that didn't -- and we we have some we have some talent coming up but. But Jacoby is somebody that we very much like to retain those. And he's not the only you guys are wins you guys talking and Dustin now about a potential contract extension is a couple years slept would like to get something done before he. Gets -- free agency. And in a perfect world but he still -- two years after you after this year so there's there's not an urgency. -- let's do you have offered graciously takes -- phone calls from Red Sox fans today John has that. Okay ups and let's do this will get more questions for John Henry you guys can join the conversation as well he's. Gotta take your calls the owner of the red sox' 617. 779793. -- the phone number 617. 7797937. Your calls the Red Sox owner John Henry next. Paired till 2 o'clock and joined in studio -- him to be joined by Red Sox owner John Henry nice not to stick around and you'll take some your phone calls -- giving the number but it filled up and about. Two seconds after people heard the -- take some phone calls every single Thursday John -- -- -- Tuesday. To -- public you know as pizza but they have we have a poll question with him every Thursday and and -- -- mile -- be the first one answer the question I don't know what you go first be like the answer the question it's our pop originals poll question. And it is which Red Sox success story. Has surprised you the most and I'll give you three options and give you second to think about it. -- -- Jose Iglesias or John Lackey. -- getting answered a second you can place your ball online by visiting WEEI dot com slash what Maloney the -- early Paul presented by Papa Gino is gonna pop -- skip their Fenway pizza. There Margarita fresh spinach -- -- Or their Fenway pasta call or online at Papa -- -- dot com let's see which success story. Has surprised the most this year in a -- -- Jose Iglesias. Or John Lackey up which on the spot here John you have to answer first which one of those three guys. Surprised you the most. Well for me of it's it's we're just talk him out of during the break. -- has been amazing to watch -- shortstop he's played great third base. And he's still hitting 380. -- up 353. So that that is. That is remarkable based on the about we saw last year compared that the best -- seen this year his patience is the strength. At the plate but mainly it's patience and ability to. To. Have rated that mean they have been great and that is if he was 3233. There is complete different hitter I wouldn't -- nominee for me personally you guys just. I was talking all the what -- -- in the first half last year before he got hurt preparation and I want him in left field to begin with you know but. -- to -- represents a lot of things that you guys have gone through here in the last twelve months. He was. Don't cut rip apart right media wise sports radio and even you name me sand base everybody. And now it's at the point where it's pitched it's us such a high level we -- people saying you know what. Okay he's gonna get me back like a lot of the on this team has got a lot of fans back I think he's he represents a lot. We wouldn't be in first and this year which he's been. Arguably our most productive pitcher and and probably the numbers say he's the second best pitcher but he's been. He's been making all these starts. And been incredible. We were talking up a lot last couple weeks about the of the plate of of Aaron Hernandez -- -- released by the Patriots and it is alleged. Alleged murder. Just curious how your team John goes about looking at players -- reporting you guys at a private guy. Around Carl Crawford for like six months before you signed him deal look at guys this character an issue issued the gonna draft or sign a player. How much research do you do in terms of the player off the field before you make a signing or pick like that. Well I think. Owners. Sometimes. Go after play or -- look at players that have troubled histories troubled backgrounds and we've had we've had. Plays like that the reds and you. You make it you you make a judgment. Thinking it and and I'm sure this happened with the Patriots as well and make a judgment. If they come in our organization we're going to. We're gonna help them in every way we can. I used to be a partner in -- yankees many many years ago. And George Steinbrenner. And remembered two decades ago. It was a it was sort of a cause for him I'm going to. The way you look at he's gonna rebuild if we don't look at it that way and we we look at it that. And they. I I don't believe we we we private. Carl Crawford and all for six months but it. But we had players and it and you have to feel for the Patriot organization because I'm. I'm. I know the Kraft and only very well and they -- community first. Organization's first. It's. Just. Unfortunate. One. As fans -- thinking here you get lost you think of it as. As an owner amuse you look at it we want this player look at his numbers he can help us win this the that we need is the dominate. Long term deals not just a commitment on the field and -- he produces is a commitment to represent your brand. You know you have to think about is this the kind of not just the athlete but the person I want to invest and you take it that far so these guys. I don't think we think of it in those terms I think we think of it in the individually case by case. That. We're gonna we're going to do everything we can't make an informed judgment for -- -- -- win. And over the years I think we've looked more and more at. Because. Things and you know there it. Athletes have tremendous pressures you you being in. You're in that position it's this tremendous pressure to. Maintaining your position in this tremendous pressure from the media in this market so. We had people come here and fail. Because of pressures. So I think we don't think in terms of much of the brand we think in terms. Of what what is right for the club. Does so much to get him lunatics who calls that just a couple things at one in real quick is a few days ago we're the Twitter world sort of blew up and we get sort of we start hearing about you and your wife and on -- pouring the -- That I get to got a text from day it's just who wants not your mind the globe -- Lot of people wondering if you don't hit it all that did don't worry about it if it happens that you might you you might be sixth. What was the latest there with your interest in them. Well I've I've managed to interest in what's been going out of their newspapers since 2000. But I really can't talk about the process and learn anything associated. With the beard. This we have. We have documents we signed prohibits doing so just due diligence checking everything out. And it's a big decision some getting involved -- the newspaper who we all know it newspapers are going through now why this one's for sale. It's so it's big decision for any potential. For any any group that there would if if we. Happened. To move forward on this that it would be it wouldn't be. Just me obviously being -- Let's talk to -- Connecticut -- -- to talk to the Red Sox owner John Dan Dan. Yeah I. Didn't. I'd like to. Is. A couple of political band and day Red Sox fan and you know after you got recover Liverpool are not into it a bit. An adult couple in your wallet back -- How and that and only -- it up and very different country and Orton and have you been able to take anything that you learned in one game -- the result -- the other. In -- both equally humbling. We we also have a team in another sport and NASCAR. And that's humbling as well that these are these are great challenges. But. -- I'm not so sure that that that you can translate. Things between sports that well. You know sports fans. All of New Hampshire received tremendous differences in sports you really can't take. If we owned NF NFL team I don't think through -- -- from from from the in the hierarchy part of in the business part of it. It's all about resources trying to have the kind of resources that you need to be successful make history of the right people in the right position but. As far as. How to be successful and on the field. Each sport has its own. This -- its own methodology. And me. They don't translate well. There's one mortality -- -- other -- ownership of you know I think the I think English football is more challenging in any sport in the world. I've seen it's it's like the wild west. Here we. Owners. Sometimes can't complain about agents but the agent. Phenomenon. The way it works. -- it's difficult to know who represents wrong. In English football here you know Willingham made such Scott -- he is if -- -- -- is your best solution -- it's. There's no -- What happened -- cultural wanna talk about our guys here duck -- go up or he's cold calling it's easy thing to John Henry a break mode and it will take Motown could probably do that one. And Tom are good friends. I'm Lindsay and Tom or Jay-Z and a quarter friendly they hang out together. That's that's the -- the biggest thing that I did -- Well -- -- won't mean Jay-Z and -- you avoid him Laker plane Fenway Park guilty -- down -- little. Well you know there and winner of Tom aware some -- and left us for a hat. A lot have been known to Wear Wally. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- carries and a lot of things happened in the past. Well which you can see you relationship right now Terry Francona have you communicated. Recently at all is everything OK there -- Not. Now he he now we have in Munich. As he attempted to -- attempted. I'm not sure wanna get back into the hole attempting because I had to -- Had a long discussion -- about your hand as far as I'm concerned he mischaracterized. That house. And to me. You wrote a book that really attacked. Tom and Larry unfairly. And it and so. How can we have much English. If you like it was unfair -- have to absolutely. But I I don't necessarily wanna go back tool we've we've discussed that the nth degree. And they treated me fairly. I'm I'm should mean one. I think yeah we live life and it cities though a lot of great things in his we get older you look back and there are a lot of great memories and just get is that regrets that relationship isn't there when it really was so much yeah absolutely yeah. It's really it's really hard doing stand preakness. You would think that. I thought when he left here he had a tremendous years. And was tremendously supportive. Even. After the collapse of September. In which we made it clear that we -- not playing him that. So. But this this is the argument you can't win and really. What -- what reason when I. Go on about the situation as he was the best manager we ever we had eight great years. Great teams great. It was a great manager he was the best man threw her hat so. And I appreciate what he did he he suffered. As much as any measure of ever seeing even through good times he. He. You know -- news he did everything he could to win for this organization. And so you opened a pitcher to mend fences here and get that relationship back maybe not now it's cool down a bit. It you know I may be difficult because. The things that that were said so some of these things -- Sobel Belichick and maybe can blame. And Chauncey. In the we got in the book yes we -- to go for every system it's about the book. And. And there's not much more to say about. I'll -- and a car drive and Roddy wants to talk to John Henry -- like. I'm feeling good afternoon gentlemen. Mr. your question economic big -- up throwing a Luis Suarez -- at the end at home. Yeah so how we use the revenue sharing that just passed yeah you're saying in baseball a lot of players now are getting locked up. Other teams earlier and earlier. Because the fact that. The economics of baseball kind let. They've they've kind elections in the difference between the -- club in the lower clubs do the top and can't contribute more revenue. And the lower and they're getting more thing I question is where did you call in that discussion -- you -- the smaller club in one because I know the record to one of the -- and that angle where you couldn't think Buster Posey popped up your feet and Kershaw I'll probably get -- long term contract in Buick -- A big contract. You see all the players getting locked up earlier and earlier where did you fall in that and -- taking them off the free agent market it's kind of helping the competitiveness in baseball. Well that's a good observation is helping the competitiveness that it less unless you're seeing great free agents on the on the free agent market but. I guess. What would what was the main part of his question. Where did you fall in terms of revenue did you like do you like the idea that some of these. -- like yourself who spend and that top 10% top 20%. Are giving a lot of money back to the smaller market clubs the are you in favor of that do you like the process the way it works right now. It's. It's it's created a situation where in the Yankees and Red Sox. Have have. Are trying trying to stay within what's all the competitive balance threshold. And rational. And that's why he's seen reduce spending it in the top. It is sort of odd that the teams are locking up players so early. Him if -- has a perspective on that but it's just a little puzzling to us. Well for you right -- before Arctic where some of those years. Longoria extra. Tripoli even the first date and he -- that it proved to be outstanding for the race. It has proved an and we knew we had contracts probably like. You close Austin. And we locked them up early. And Ellsbury might have been right to -- and give her name missed the year he was in in that window when he missed the -- typical Anke back and MVP year and you know what to do you think Scott. It's in favor of blocking stringers. Earlier quickly to -- a quick break here now but we gotta go -- Baseball stated the game attendance is down. Slightly ratings ratings down yet that the cable money ridiculous profits are up. Is this it's got to come to and as far as that things don't even now right attendance down slightly ratings are down your money is up profits are up. A point it's got to balance out right and it could be an issue. Well paces games. I don't know how -- field. As a player but does that it's that these pitchers. It take to slow those pitchers. Not a hitter the hitters of the -- Well I'm sure he's a Wall Street Journal (WSJ) or slow that I did -- it's an absolutely right the amount of dead time John in your game right now. In the way our culture is going where it would people have shorter attention spans Tennessee. You're gonna sit there when there are sixteen minutes of action in a four hour baseball game. Well sixteen men I would I would take it email what Bud Selig isn't do we -- anymore we find out -- at every -- in European what needs to -- to kind of more interest. We need rules with regard to pace of the game and I think you'll see. I think you'll see that. Do pitchers deliver the baseball pitchers delivering players staying in you know if you. In the -- it -- it would be a shame to ban batting gloves but if that's who takes. You know he. At some point -- at some point you have to address the pace of the game. The game that existed as far as pace in the 1960s. And seventies. Was. I'm much more pitching in the all star game. You remember what the all star game used to be like it was really something the city it's still is quite it is -- Pace. Is terribly and we'll start with the use of OK apart at the age. Actually games quicker I think we need to get really rid of we need both leagues to -- use him. I don't care which way you -- whether it's pitching pitchers hitting. One DH but it's it's we have every game now any of these games where teams are trying it's OK I -- suddenly and you can DH. Or suddenly the pitchers. It this week I'll take him. Wanna talk to Matt for one more question for John -- of Matt Florida waiting patiently -- -- They got out of all my little in America -- And I'm not like to thank you first got firm bingo Greg Clark my question is gone what needs to improve throughout the rest of the second half of the season. Keep up or these places and eventually hopefully go to the playoffs and eventual World Series. Well you know we need to stay healthy obviously if we can stay healthy we've had a spate of injuries recently. Now we need to get. Play back when we need. To stay healthy and if if we do we should be it should be you know pandering. Last time we talked him before today. We're talking to you about some rumors that it popped up about the Red Sox being for sale. -- I just saw where the small but not this for a couple days ago. Your franchise is valued at one point 32 billion dollars is the team in any way -- perform John for sale as of July 18 2013. No we went through that a year ago I appreciate you guys calling me and about it that you called us all I called you called us and thank. That would be. But I Linda I've been on were bidding on the globe's. And I'm Matt. -- on things. That team not for sale now in no way shape perform now that turned out -- is impeccable sources. But he was missile. And by doing one year going through bad times we were last year. You get all kinds of things bubbling up to serve and that's accurate. I sat here talk baseball -- for an hour thank you very much won't informative any time you want stop by and it's. I'm -- and next yet I don't come my call whatever you want to win every get off the mark Billy these guys to really get off the board them. He's even drew there and I all public lace these guys -- Iglesias tartan a year and look at you it's erupt demanding you to -- Hussein is nobody better. Baseball announced as the new Malone. What's gonna love that. But in the April until Joey say that there we -- -- or clean cut to John thank you. I've John Henry joining us here in studio quick break we'll come back we are Red Sox. Tickets to give away its model united threesome.