Jun 21, 2013|
Brick joins Mut and Merloni to talk about the Bruins getting off to a faster start in Game 5, the Bruins defense, and Carl Soderberg.
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Our -- Butler not a 37 WEEI Andy -- of NASA will join us here a couple of seconds as we do. A full hour to tell look back in game four and what to expect here in game five Bruins and Blackhawks on what your phone calls with brick at 617. 7797937. AT&T -- line at 37937. Before the break -- I was so excited. About the Carl Soderbergh exciting on the fourth line that I said Dennis Seidenberg. And I yelled outlaw look -- last brick would Dennis Seidenberg to on the fourth line and we got a 150 text messages -- much you idiot. -- don't you mean Soderbergh on the fourth why not Seidenberg yes course that's not Dennis Seidenberg it's Carl Soderbergh. On the fourth line today skating with -- and Shaw important. Dog and it's down now on the fifth line it cost is nice because of the -- and blow the game like coach is not going to be traded one of their better players isn't involved in the murder investigation now we get. Some real Bruins -- -- bring in the man right here Indy brick the brick what. With three -- way of turning to a 65 -- two -- 65. -- -- -- Well first of all -- -- and of that game I think the theme was let's see which titles made of and they brought. You know they they opened up their game the open up their offense they reunite -- contain a human emotional boost and a talent boost. -- probably played -- this game because he was playing with those two guys. They were real good in senator rice and conversely Boston. You know they had lapses again where they just didn't skate early in the first period again in the second period if you don't take away that -- -- they gonna attack you any stretch passes they gonna gain entry and year end. And it almost seem like the the best. Attribute of the Bruins team defense is their back pressure by the forwards but they weren't that look like they were as committed maybe they just didn't have the -- the skating game because. Chicago was able to gain the offensive zone they were able to use the perimeter and then find seems to make plays in the offensive zone and that's how you can beat Boston at the back -- not there because the if you hold -- -- is still going to be you know passing lanes available. If the five guys -- back in position to take away those opportunities in Chicago took advantage all that being said. Rose -- and a hockey. You know I haven't critical Quinn Billy two days before game one when they start seeing the lines and moving raising -- off with it you know and that's that involves a fastball hitter -- it a pitcher with a good fast bought at the break -- ball I look fastball that was my strength now. You won't lines around to try to find the right combination when you do. Let's find out it's jar and Seidenberg can stop them first before I switch to the game for how much a problem that be moving forward. Well I think Chicago's philosophy obviously was you know the bros gonna play Chara Seidenberg together and if we can split up these two guys because there's so immensely talented maybe we can gain an advantage because we have a lot of good forwards and they -- a whole bunch of different line combinations that paid off in game one and -- 43 triple overtime win. And when you win a game like that you think that splitting those two guys up allows you to be the better team in that situation that's why they weren't together. But when you get into a must win situation I know it's not an elimination game but that was a must win situation for Chicago. That's when you re you know that reunite those guys you -- strikes together. And you force Boston say all right yeah okay put those two guys to get the ball was still gonna beat you but they were unable to do. You mentioned those two periods -- the beginning of the first appeared beginning his second or they came out flat it's it's one of the big stories today locally. Called addressed the team addressed to we've got to start faster we can't have. Both stretches. As a four is ready to do is rated a quote can do to sort remind these guys will be -- start the first period -- strongly -- say we did that second period the Blackhawks. -- just remind them that's all you can do was a coaching staff that that that's unacceptable you know that the way we start the period the way we status the second period it's unacceptable the players realize that all you can do there's nothing you can really do at this point this season. But I can think of certainly from my experience. -- it's entirely up to the individual players you can do when she can't try to get these guys ready to go from puck drop from period to period but it's on the players. Individually collectively as a team to be ready to play and understand how important those verse 57810 minutes aren't in a hockey game. So much can happen so much momentum can swing you can find yourself losing a hockey game because of that. But it's on the players clearly you know the coaching -- to do with the can't prepare game plan. But the minute you walk out of that locker room door now it's on the play. Yeah I was I wasn't happy the way they came on the first period Nazi more disappoint with a team on the second is in the first at dot. You carry some momentum now yet apparently goal that didn't happen -- they were talking about. You can go through this post season all the great players that have been outstanding for this team Kelly last couple games missed the open -- -- couple bad turnovers led to a properly gold Chara. Seidenberg pinching. He even took a body was good but -- give up six goals is just if one of those games for the better players. There was no. Silver lining really that performance -- and they had a chance of winning games count as it was 55 men and their perseverance to keep coming back and to expose Crawford. You know I I didn't mind to this game is probably the only player as you go back and look at the goals and some of the saves he made an opportunity to win. I NC soft goals in there I thought I thought Chicago brought a pretty good and it really -- to -- -- great looks. But career that there was really no. No one that we did in the -- Somalia really strong iron game and the thing that bothered me most I think it probably -- coaching staff just as much was the decision making it. Yes Dennis Seidenberg pitching -- get sick go 32 you're in great shape -- three fours and around the -- because of the but the seizures on you starting to attacking get this game even again. As for Seidenberg was so good so Smart you know especially on the defensive side of the -- to pinch in that situation give up 211. And the for the two on one not just have one opportunity but time to stop and come back that credit score again. You know that speaks to. Just not being there mentally. And you could break down every shift the poor decisions that every -- mean and that's ultimately -- cost in the game. They Davis stakes state turned the puck over offensively Tyler Sagan on that first goal sort out made turns it over on in Russia the way -- -- in the signed -- -- that led to Krueger being able to. Get its first shot on raskin a breakaway Rask make a really good save a Taliban left pad to get across and nobody there. To clear about but when you look at the mistakes brick work where they more of a mental mistake or more physical mistakes as a whole he can look at the. The greater percentage were more mental mistakes and and if -- fatigue involved here if you subscribe to the theory that some guys were more tired than others you know X turf as well as physical mistakes were mental mistakes of the ones that really hurt you wouldn't and mental mistakes almost unforced errors and and it's hard to recover from unforced errors because no one's expecting. You to make that decision. And now you're not ready to react because you're expecting something totally different so mental mistakes of the worst kind their unforced errors. And liberals made too many I wanted to get your comments on -- that that the sound of Jonathan Toews and -- and -- your -- -- -- maybe just he's spoken to bear it -- a Smart move has tapes. McCain says isn't. You know credits it to churn issues another key players she's. He's a great player and we know is is number one advantages size reach and strength so. I think. At the same time you can't give them too much respected and one -- Compensate the way he plays line. Considering the fact that the -- of their answers. There's. There's certain ways you expose them. I think summit that companies that we remain tonight. It is his side and we made sure that we -- number one team in ways that first thing. And you know we're just trying not to be intimidated by -- by his side yet ticket and after finally. In Sidon. And albeit not be -- instant. So. We can work him in. Did that continues. Jars. The better defenders the president in the game back -- it's it's always something -- the -- not perfect yet when he says exposed and -- in on his side. -- -- -- Some of the things you see that that they're doing and exposing him absolutely and I had no problem with -- is commentary I thought it was spot on and that's the way you try to protect -- thought it was said with a lot of respect for the man. Maybe I disagree that you can out work him but you can outmaneuver him and I think that's what he's getting at talking about taking always stick. If you get close to him. If you don't have numbers assays at three on three year of one on one coming down on show are you wanna get as close to him as you can without turning the puck over that's what he's talking about to reach. If you get close to him and you're forced to chip the pocket. He's got that big bodies got to make that big long pivot in order to go and try to -- you know retrieve the pocket. And most the time you're gonna get the efforts it mostly as a little quicker because he gonna make that David. He relies on along stride along regional order to get the -- maybe hold you off a little bit because you know he can do that in today's game as much as used to be able to. -- -- -- the tech -- -- back in the day you know every team thought that. If he's gonna play thirty minutes make him earn those thirty minutes make -- be hard thirty minutes meaning he has to go retrieve a lot of pucks company in his corner finishing checked every time. Even if it's a successful break out for the Bruins. Overtime that will be effective. And there will be opportunities to use their quickness that you think Chicago's best team looked at that we all agreed a pretty quick. If he could chip pucks in corners and get the F first. And try to establish some kind of offensive cycle game because he can jump and in charge corner. Maybe not as successful because of a better pitted by Seidenberg to -- go to the park and get their first. I understand that I don't see that is poking the bear advocates said with respect. But he's being honest and saying you know this is how -- game play and charge a great -- going to be on the -- a lot we can figure out how we can be so dumping on -- and has more to do with making more more saying we -- this decision making war protecting -- questions and I'll make him work you know I mean that that's hard for a big man like -- to have to you know to defend all the time to -- so -- from the red -- back to. To work people would take the body protect the front of the net and have to go retrieve pucks on top of that. That's all part of Chicago's game. We got brick and studio your phone calls at 6177797937. AT&T -- on. It's 379 B 37 you mentioned the Blackhawks -- what they're able to Duca were spinning -- time with the I guess the Bruins didn't do. I wanna get the Blackhawks and credit to get -- -- out of the gate Bruins we admit many come out as fast. Blackhawks came out skating and I thought brick their defensemen. Were stolen gauge of the player early it was like Quenneville said. We go to now we got smog and Russian the other way find that the way we play is getting Keith. And -- and -- do you we get you guys involved I thought in the beginning to end those guys were involved throughout the game on Wednesday certainly want him. -- -- really -- you know we talked about in the pregame and I you know you have like three bullet points and you talked about Chicago to get into the x.s and most that was the expectation that they were -- activate -- indeed you're right they did that Keith was up the ice that first period of -- -- was involved. They basically were eventually only went to five. You think about that move by -- along the backboard stepping out front on the -- legal that kind of stuff you know among minus guy on the team Laura -- -- in the post season. I guess I'm not a huge believer plus minus but that's a clear indication when it's when it looks like that. That being said. Yeah that's -- O'Keefe made the first good offensive chance for Chicago's a pass from behind the -- that buy -- -- so you had an idea that first period that they were common. And they were a lot of times in the neutral and actually keep without the putt on the Bruins had was stepping up he was moving forward in the neutral zone. Which again gave viewers a clear indication that when bill was telling his guys to get up by stay up -- You know it's not high risk because he's a very good skater but forced Boston don't give the Red Line. And let's think office turned defense in office right away let's attack these guys that have before me and attack the short. You know and they got some good results in -- -- a couple of shots that lead the rebound will fuel deflection by -- rebound Mike came. They got to the Centre of the ice they were better than neutral zone and they got to the middle of the offensive zone for rebounds second and third opportunities. The young players in behind the Bruins defensive center right shopped it to break in the second period. Crew goes in behind the Bruins the the first period he just missed connecting with them that happened too frequently to. Too much base to many seems too much openings for the way the Bruins like the play the good news is Boston generated some offense themselves because of the way Chicago's playing. And I got to think this and don't buy that Chicago team whether they wanna admit it or not but. -- profits get beat in three pretty clean and voted to game five in the Chicago feels good about coming home you know. I don't know is that believability you know it almost reminds middle along those situations. I beacons and Illinois Chicago in question about a drop off because we all know is it because at the -- going to figure that out watching it because it's every single time. This -- -- -- to keep it up knowing that this -- higher than most because you know it's going to be upset because there's a couple of goals under. His golf it looks like it's glove side just going up and it almost underneath -- -- yeah I I you know. Some goalies -- legal and of that but a play the global come up yet others will drop down I mean it's. And I've seen him do both us and I still really built because there is there is some doubt this game on that I honestly there is some doubt and it's almost like he's trying to figure out where it needs to be. Depending on where the shots coming from a who's taking you know -- -- need to go of the game -- abide by eight is I was higher -- with a puck -- that's that's what I say this is sent. As -- in theaters you gloves down that you quicker coming up. And you are going down you always wanted to be good because it's just a quick emotion. I've seen him get beat twice down low and I'm wondering. This guy's like cheating or is glove is actually higher than maybe most people on the starting point because you don't see that you're alone is one of the general slots that by goaltenders today is that -- back in the day. Goalies would come out and they'd try to be big when the show come they would tighten up you know to try to have no holes in their equipment. Now the way of the equipment design. Call it big if you like but a lot as always now they come out they Kamal born narrow and with a shot comes Steagall big. You know they try to get blocker high glove high you know don't let anybody was leading by my ears 'cause I'm gonna drop in of that butterfly shortly. But they try to go big the big Jersey covered underneath the I'm on both sides you know protection of the Bible with the extra padding. -- all the cheating that you can do is a goaltender that the league really has to take a look at but that's the theory now but his glove has been in. You know it's been low it's been medium it's been high and it's been in the wrong slot for a number of goals that he's been given up in the ironic thing is. Early in the playoffs -- -- blocker side. These give up that short side and I don't know if he's -- and over just meant that's caused him to be off his angle -- inability to judge glove hand. But the Bruins certainly taken it and yet he always nominee come playoff tournament who you are there's obviously a lot more skies a lot more deep and you break it down game game is seeming guy more often. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You look somewhere else. Not wished Johnny let's talk about Tuukka Rask Alex on the Bruins fast and slow start couple open fault lines for you. Talk bruins' Stanley Cup final with candy Berkley 617779. 7937. Get texting your questions get those so those those as well. At 379. B 37 game five set for tomorrow night we talk with the UM brick here on Sports Radio WEEI. I'm ultimately target a little bit better than you have running got their more built. We'll be you know back and forth. A lot of a lot of speed trading chances. -- -- -- ourself. If we're gonna play our style it is it we shouldn't -- not typical that's for sure. John -- earlier today. On WEEI it's but little Andy -- of NASA and still new at 6177797937. AT&T text line. 379837. Johnny Portsmouth. Waiting patiently talked to -- Andy Berkeley about 2 grass can morning John. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- saying are we going there what are our senate today and are bigger picture right -- -- regularly on the you're right up there -- -- they are well. Love well my -- oh we got yeah he's -- hockey broke those who didn't see back then Johnny. It would nick -- it is nice to. Seventeen dad broke -- you know is that -- you know I know that's what the earlier harper. But I am well -- -- wrote it collapsed. I showed that burden we'll -- rebound and Charles Lambert. And we also have their own sweet way and they just want it stopped well -- And then I don't think. We better go absolutely immediately 08 reaching 65 and still have the chance to win the game we don't have the bad call. And that what are your -- yet. Gilbert who we talked about this obviously defense let down a lot more rebounds I think Evan rebounds because they had more traffic in front -- and that we mentioned -- already know that the middle of the ice event and that means the nutritional but more importantly in the offensive zone for boss in the middle of the ice was. They held Chicago to bodies you know in into his view. And if you don't really get real clean looks the rebound control becomes a lot more difficult. And now when you're not getting that help that you talk about -- the defense getting to those rebounds first the because -- to being out skated in a number of areas. That's what it's gonna look like he gonna give up goals and nineteen Chicago's two good. To -- in the offensive zone too good around the net with too many good players they can score goals that you know -- -- six -- a hockey game and had a lot to do. We we talked about yesterday did admit that the that final goal was the first goal that go back and look at 34 times decide whether he should have had better not -- -- great shot I don't know because I know what the world fans camp out fraud a couple of screens they -- listen. I know is a good shot but what I'm saying is when was the last time in the post season you look pittance it could -- made that one. I think his personality. In finding more about this. I feel pretty good about it -- put behind him coming up here Japan. And he has that belief in his team and his teammates although I question it because. I mean I keep should have been in here and I thought by Chicago and I thought profit let them down and not stay in anyway from the Bruins in the goals they scored but Beverly schools and well you know. They'll say Crawford didn't get a good look at it his reaction suggests eating get a look at it when you consistently beat. The way the Bruins beat him just the image that it leaves you with is there are questions around Crawford a lot more so. The grass guys wanna go back to -- point me to believe -- would Washington which is the beautiful arena the universe in New Hampshire had him from his political prisoners of Miller that yeah when they first built because I play in my at least -- the old arena that had a chain link. We'd even have glass you know always a glass of it at sunrise but not the not at the and split the pond hockey yeah. It was awesome it was the best ice in the league you know it was nice and cold that rink we -- things like played in Edmonton we had fast race -- -- I felt fast that's -- that's on the ice was but. I took my youngest daughter up there my wife and I we went up went up to see that the wood and you know watching game in my daughter saw that exact picture that he's talking about on the -- all American -- payment in -- And -- notre reaction which is a debt to via the bad scared. At a converted -- this is 1982. Others is what we looked like. -- -- -- right back today it was am and Dallas in a battle as them and those that -- other guys up there with me in. Those guys. The bad players one follow up on the the big -- discussion rather -- a text on the AT&T Tex lines at -- Crawford is chalked his stick three times. Coincide decide when the refs gonna call Ivan north at three times by saw a couple we're just. He loses that that's a healthy sign -- Washington you should do that a lot to me is this is the first school that somehow that stick came out of his hand when he was moving side to side trying to make a play. And use that stick effectively. You know. It's such a tough call to make it if it's done on purpose by the goaltender if he conceals Hillary camouflage is -- pretty well it is a good sell job that he -- came out of his hand. He's gonna get the benefit of the non call just about every time. When asked about the face -- because well when the Bruins get -- 51% 4%. Given there is drew look at that us special song game three. Was it more of big what you saw from the Bruins and what did you see more determination more fight more support from Japan the odds that -- -- -- -- their determination they weren't happy with their performance in game three certainly -- coaching staff challenged him to be a lot better and every year especially in the compete level. I don't was only eight to nothing game one nothing game with a power play goal that was essentially a five month -- was five wonderful but essentially a five month regal. You know -- Chicago hung around but if you're really break the game down the brutal better and every category the game in game three. You know that's just can't happen go to the game for you have to challenge your top players to be the best players on the ice and that starts with every little -- -- every aspect of the game. You've got to bring it you gotta compete a lot hotter so I would start with Chicago and how they Canada. They that determination they may end up in -- more -- up in the areas of competing and it starts with face after the it's a great example. That he -- a puck battles with 5050s and it comes down to you know. Being good in the offensive zone getting the front at those three -- -- far better than they were -- game three. And again I looked at it from Chicago board of UNC must win and they brought. The beginning game wedding at eleven at 31 point Chicago -- the -- fire and the -- in the engaged early to -- those defenders early and they put pressure on the Bruins and I expect we'll see more than game five Alex. Isn't Wilbur -- on the fast and slow starts for the -- Dallas morning. Morning that they get -- on that -- All I took the question where -- -- on regarding the style of play and you just talk about it but I learned that the home. Like Chicago bomb that style play -- lot like a pastor page a pot is very open done -- -- just keep an escape into. They look flawless and went to -- you know they have this you know. Dirt -- you know. In the corner grind it out and then -- put back home. Hillary got the shot I was curious on you know it's just that does not crystal. You know I'm not I'm no expert but I sisters and your opinion on that a -- planet style play with these two teams. I think that's pretty accurate Alex you know it -- simplest form that's that's the way Chicago wants the planet Boston can play. A speedier game that you realize if they're making better decisions with the puck a lot of times in game four. When the Bruins did have puck possession let's say the defense has somewhere between the top of the circles in his own blue line they go DDD. I didn't see one number one -- would come nice and low generate some speed sure in the passing lane in order to generate something positive through the neutral -- They went to hide this -- mean he didn't bring your skating. They were too high the nutritional and god forbid human another deep deep pass and now -- -- the -- -- the and it's still up by the offensive blue like. And they -- -- weren't sharp mentally when it really comes down or even those walls that we spoke about at the top of the show it was for early in the first early in the second it just wasn't their -- them. And when you get to that no man's land. Now dep turned -- if you dot com completely committed to that back pressure and it's a lot easier to have that speed on the back check. If you have to speed on your profits now you're into the game. But if you can have not. 100% there you skating to writes in writes the puck turned over. That committed tactic won't be there in those scenes that I thought about the Chicago took advantage on the cyclone might read this week here Gator -- -- out -- here go to art and -- We have seen much album that we saw six games well what do you expect what to expect to see differently from Soderbergh -- While soderbergh's a little bit bigger body I mean they give -- of its credit for you know be a -- -- -- -- the wall strong on the pot you know not. Not all that gifted offensively. They're trying to find accommodation on that fourth line that perhaps they can play a little bit more frequently in the you know keep that Kelly lining gather with five NC. Does Soderbergh -- -- has zero experience in the NHL playoffs are very little experience in the NHL period. Maybe they just give -- some time on that fourth light practice just to see what it looks like you know he hasn't played a game along time. There are other options if you -- replaced on it but I think that's just kind of the normal. Protocol if you will during off days is to get other guys some work you know the black aces need to get a little bit more than just. You know played three on three post practice in order of age shape and you gotta get involved in the drills. And and this is one way to have a little gamesmanship which Congo but to actually take a look and see what it looks like. If you wanted to be on that line. It comes to his style of clothes cars rolled four lines of I've often said that you know if they're winning tightly and games nevermind in the post season or regular season if if they're down a -- in three minutes ago I'd rather see -- lines out there. In the day -- was to minister Golding had about a minute shift that fourth line. I game in the third period. And you know the problem -- have is this is not your normal fourth line was by Campbell born again it I didn't like seeing those guys out there that late -- game just because of what the line is right now optimism dog it is -- because that's basically what we're talking about it if you are -- there you don't replace someone make a -- make a personnel change. If you look at the minutes played in this is this is an overtime game talking about a fourth line Winger played five minutes and the systems that -- gonna replace so it and does he kill penalties not really he's not in the top eight as far as field in the rotation to kill penalties is not on the power play. -- at five minutes at even strength now he won replaceable the -- why not. It's only talking about five minutes of ice time or somewhere thereabouts maybe it's a little bit more. Maybe Soderbergh can can placed somewhere on your five on -- may be unified on three he's a big body with comedians. If you give him time and space in a situation we would get a little bit more times based on pop situation. Now maybe he's a little bit more over a little bit more effective. And another choice another option you might have been a hockey game if they were so inclined to put him in line with the Mets line don't want -- dual three. -- game third period with with what the Portland looks like yeah I mean as long as that third line or all three lines are somewhat productive and you dollar or playing well enough that I have no concerns. My only. -- from a coach and I I got my -- my guys. Why do I see the need for a little breather and that's what you got to figure out so based on. That it's an off -- and it's something that teams do all the time I guess my question brick wood would you get separate pregame tomorrow night. Are you more surprises Soderbergh is in or more surprises Soderbergh is out and the dog and stays on the I would be less -- wouldn't be surprised at all dug -- out of -- OK okay as to who goes in the line up. Maybe a little surprised they would they would go Soderbergh not drawn. Across an article is that more NHL experience post season -- awful obviously with a you know great -- resonate. A lot of times -- he's been in line up to. You know that I think they think Chicago's maybe a little too fast. Her for -- and awful but again you're talking about somewhere from between five and ten minutes and that was over time so. Those are your options. You know you got to figure out his coaching staff what what's your best Nixon who gives you. That position to me is a guy that has to be personal. You know -- need a guy that if something happens I need to be able to put him in a position maybe got a -- at the third line by you know that exact type of player that it is Ron -- that -- -- sort of Borg all that guys -- all public advocate office -- pigeonholed as a player. Even though I like him but he is he's a good player effective guy. But he's a little bit more wondered two dimensional it's a baby on AB Soderbergh it is I think documents more of that one dimensional kind of play displays shirt style and that's about it. So it's really what you got to figure out and then you got to figure out how much those minutes how critical they are to you as a coach except as a team. And that will ultimately make the decision for the minister who was in that slot if they make a change at all. We're pick -- our way through the Stanley Cup final game four in the rear -- game five tomorrow night back in Chicago rock in Maine Mike in California your calls -- any Berkley 617. 7797937. AT&T text -- 37. 937. Get you separate the cup keep it here. Well they. Free the sweetest -- -- four. Carl soderbergh's skating without sources and it it. I feel like Santa -- -- like the player quite frankly month low 937 -- -- Coco super Andy Brinkley joining us here in studio your calls side until minutes 6177797937. AT&T text line. At 379 B 37 Glenn. Watson -- FaceBook giving younger make an impact the next game I think he's made an impact. Throughout the series without scored a -- -- he's been good. It obviously called out on NBC by my delivery in that period one league they're really taking any Bruin and and and -- and highlight package of -- play. But no I think he's being good BC's look real good day I'd love that gold set up Bergeron a little two -- cycle knows a thing of beauty -- that was what. That is his effectiveness rate there in a nutshell you know. Just when Chicago thinks began at Yelp battles here he gets in the way he keeps the play alive because of his reach is strengthened just is is cleverness and got -- been around for a long time. And then you know division in any plays well Bergeron a version finds that semen in the released by ball and you know that. Those things you can take advantage of -- a title that the make mistakes in their -- shall from the top of the circles down. And and the art is one of the better players that they're doing and creating confusion in the making a real good pass. I think it almost sounds like the question if I'm reading between the lines to get a score a goal is is he gonna be that guy is he gonna get on the board and he really you know I mean he's he's he's been quoted as saying. I really don't need to score for us to win hockey games it would be great if I did score I've got a lot of good chances I've been a little unlucky with some posts. But I think -- is you know he has had an impact. In every series that he's plate and and I think he looks good right now rate -- -- over. I think this is what a lot of listeners really won't know who use it with Jack Edwards and you watch the game at the end of the second period how was Jack and Kelly. Missed that goal was it was he okay is easy Arnott no he wasn't it is thought it was not a up and down again Jack must have been out of control with you Jack -- just give me one -- he wanted -- -- -- They show that overhead and for Chris Kelly I Chris Kelly it's gotten better as the series has gone on you that what twenty something games point list. And he gets on the board he would -- game today that NBC overhead where there is no goaltender in the net and the puck is on his stick -- -- rows of all right I'm sort of kind of backed chicken. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- We'll get -- -- to call you got there and you know you just talk about. Actually enough. How is this one I thought partly and it goes really well. The last couple games he can put -- out and out there and not in the -- but I think when they're trying to break out in the little slow. Through dissolved. -- -- heavily a couple of shifts on that second line to help get hockey you know get it down low. Can -- I would -- in the opposite but they -- slow about what. I just like we're currently -- right now I think -- -- -- what do you think about him to have a couple ships on the second line. That maybe it'd involve a little bit more -- Yeah any time it. Yeah any time like any time that you can give -- you're a little extra breather and -- -- if you if you wanna keep Bergeron and -- on Roland because of their youth relatively speaking TI you're. I have no problem with that I like that like mixing and matching some in my line combinations at times as a you know you're forced to Chicago and estimate maybe some small adjustments on their side depending on what they're looking for in terms of my match -- That's amazing what a gold can do for deal heavily with seven a hard time he is one of the fast abroad and he's got a really good release. He's a player. Boy you're really struggling and really have a hard time finding your game and and you're skating game kind of disappears because -- get into that no man's land again where you know you're not totally committed to the fore check. And you don't wanna make a mistake it you don't wanna be good you know caught up -- because you get a little too involved -- trying to find your game. You don't wanna be a weak links are now you just kind of you get a little rigid you know he's not free flowing and that's his game justice eight and to get in on the fore check and make plays and take puck wide to. But all of -- you score a goal and just kind of releases you'll only get that sense of freedom that okay. In -- gets up -- draws that panel because he's using his speed and and and that's all good. And as a coaching -- you see that you say all right I can roll my fourth line now because that always not find his game a little bit. In you know we gonna get from point shift in shift down in many units of that left side you know and that's why we talked about Soderbergh so it all stems around heavily. I like his game he's played better he's played better -- game and a half close to two games but now it's about sustainability because we're in -- best the three. The -- ticket to resident notes and just want to and it's by -- it's ugly and yesterday was hit what you put on sharp. You know on the boards and again that at and blew the whistle -- in his -- and accused outcome here I'm here all night lets you pull down. That's slap shot that he has an early games of some credit for the wrist shot as having a beast optionally score some goals I Ellis the hills they -- a sharp it's a good lucky to catch up with that thing glove side. It just get the artist slap shot in the league what you can't be far behind. Nice -- you know he's a hundred plus you know when you when you put put the MPH is on it and you know some guys it's -- -- the wait a wicked hey mark just -- met -- played the Olympic team by the miracle. I play the New Jersey. He must be east front of a 595. And maybe a 170. Pounds guided -- -- it upon -- time as any in the weight room you know -- just occupy move. And he would shoot a puck it hit the blade of his stick would make contact with the pocket it was pure war you know was like a golf analogy. You know he'd hit that ball with just the smallest little divot and -- talent. That putt was flying off his stick forgot it's not an imposing looking shooter. And it had a guy like that read last an -- or even ray Bork in Boston where. There blade of the stick Woodley and you know after the wind up what about six inches behind the puck. And then it was just pure power and weak trees for its transfer and follow through. And a -- what about the same speed you know I just find it amazing the way different people shoot the puck. And joining boy just one of those guys that can get a cure the more often than not is just a little bit behind the puck and it's just all power. And it or you know yes exactly who he -- well O'Brien miles and mouths were opposed. That guy is an announcer calls that Johnny rocket attack forget -- that out -- these -- thought it was all a Twitter believe it's I Iraq and I'm glad you brought that question is made me think of your game 388 you. You had talked about you know we've talked about ice conditions this time a year. I thought in Boston unfortunately games three game for brick as a novice the ice and look great. What do juicy looking at that ice who would you want to have maybe that bigger sticky talked about that had a -- -- said he tried to order every year around February for the playoff time not it's. -- game -- much pedaling games three you know if you pull the players in games three and I'll tell you the actress tough fan and they will also -- both teams had a play on it so it's it still fair game but. -- does Alter the way you play it alters the opportunities that it created maybe have to be a little bit more conservative and you know and have to -- down a little bit more than you'd like to to make sure the -- still want you stick. Most of the time it's a field of the ice is bad it. You know and I don't even like to talk about that ice conditions is number one the Bruins are the Darden I should say -- -- the best blog -- -- awesome awesome awesome job but sometimes on just what you can do some -- yeah sometimes you just can't do anything about ice conditions as much as he tries so. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Rock is up in -- talk and Stanley Cup final Roch what are you got. I announced -- -- I have a question it. It appeared the the hawks were giving the who -- a little bit of their own medicine did you see that are committed. It's almost like they were doing waves in. I think in the up into the zone. The defensemen seem to be playing apple. The more they -- to -- more they seem to be frustrating the Bruins when they were trying to get out of the you know their own defensive zone. Did you see those adjustments that they made. -- is what I saw from Chicago as far as relative to the Bruins in the way the Bruins play. They played when they Bruins commitment but they played Chicago Blackhawks hockey which was puck possession speed motion. You know cycle the puck in the offensive zone if it was in senator rice a lot of motion don't just -- lanes and skate Elaine it was motion. It was the fence jumping up -- of the play and not just staying on their side of the ice. But it's dotted with that -- in light commitment that might it not been there in game three and if you combined those two elements of his Chicago Blackhawks. You're pretty tough to beat and you can't be as. War. With human with your decision making that Boston was does now you're really playing in Chicago's hands but again I have to reiterate. That game was still up for grabs. And that's how hard Boston played in recovered in persevered and took advantage of a goaltender that's got to be questioned himself right now and and I think that really is a huge factor going into game five. Actually I think when he's -- game five anybody's sentence that this is what I think is gonna happen I don't know. The world constantly -- it would be a concern for Crawford in -- final appeal glove side crawler upset about that you re not there and say why is everybody -- propaganda to give up six goals. But it's been consistent you know so what what would you expect game five the snake and two good teams. I make a prolonged -- actually Longo actors you know his two game stint in Boston which did not gulf what's her fifth. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yesterday during the cross over your name came up in a conversation with our sophomore -- with a -- based -- Chicago. -- shouldn't happen and I apologize we love having you and glad you're here today not you know. I don't know how necessary -- apology is but I'll happily accept thank you thank you and he can make -- Brittany my hockey sticks here. As we go forward I terms of the coverage tomorrow we go in ninety minutes before the game and then immediately afterwards -- same template as as as this entire final has been. 8 o'clock puck drops somewhere around there shall be on the air at 630. I believe Jack and -- Marty made their way to Chicago that the users have to be that the media day which would be today. And I'll be working studio with dale so we'll have a fully cover next comprehensive coverage great highlights interviews that everything that needs to be covered -- there. And that you mentioned before game four and you said Chicago is engaged offenders is their feeling from your perspective for the Bruins if when you start to greet their pregame package -- three bullet points. Can give us one if you think there's a bullet point you know that you're going to be folks and on tomorrow part of that game -- got to bring their vector oppression that's that's a look at -- it wasn't where it needed to be in game four I think is the very foundation of how the Bruins wanna play before you do any x.s and knows. If you have that from the Bruin forwards. And I got a good start. -- of weapons that note cup will be in -- building Monday night while the cup in the -- how about this. We're gonna have gained six tickets on Monday giveaway on the issue. We're just found that you're not eligible health Rick's word is gonna -- I was up there for a -- kicked on -- level -- -- -- the other night I was walking around. Ever wants to aid to do you get ready for the game there's African Jack work -- right there on -- -- by about those guys trying to work people walking by its. That's mental toughness -- the deal about those people compartmentalize. It that's all of we heard that will replace it and apply it today ninety minutes prior right afterwards you get all the great coverage on NASA and for game five brick appreciable talking next week does that -- -- -- we have -- and joining us here in studio we come back. One of our characters who talk to every Friday Kevin -- last camp Red Sox have a closer if you keep it here.