Jan 17, 2013|
This week on the Hot Stove Show Kirk Minihane, Alex Speier and Rob Bradford talk with Red Sox COO Sam Kennedy and outfielder Shane Victorino. They also discuss some of the excerpts from Terry Francona's book.
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But stove show WEEI Turkmen and Alex fear. Rob Bradford Alex and -- tweeting away which I was like the beginning of radio show contractually obligated -- That's going Nagano or common. You have to spread the word lot's changed in the weeks sounds like now I won the baton -- -- that's one that -- done -- -- I know line now eleven Todd Bridges last. The last of the strokes standing. So. I guess acceptable way to put it proves your rights -- against you the last guy and as rob Bradley was first reported. On the -- Michael Napoli. Is evidently finally signed with the race you guys all right except right exactly I was the first to stand out on a limb and say it was what you've done -- that beat him on a -- right there one year. Five million dollars that that we did not gas with with a budget and -- they can potentially bring push it up to thirteen million dollars right. Public that one if I told you guys today he'd sign that the heat to one up or reported the first one year five million but no way no way. It shows you. That we we're gonna get the tales about the hip issue and everything else but. It shows you what concern on this campus we thought it. And we didn't know -- this process went along about how bad it was what type -- hip injury was what it could have been one year. Just like to J. D. Drew thing was three years had been one UN reality with three years but it's not it's a one year -- A million win and sent players a thing out you know -- I've heard a lot of the talk about it reading about today a lot of people are saying well you know. There's -- give motivation to play hard this year this of that but if the reality is he's in such a situation yet to sign this is Robson. They -- -- not allow him to. Well a couple of things to. Keep in mind the first is that the hip is a very mysterious. Region for the for the athlete it's become kind of a new area of injury. Focus in in just the last couple of years and it's a thing where a lot of times players feel like there asymptomatic committed just kind of goes so. So it may well be the case that Napoli shows no real negative effects from it but the Red Sox needed to insulate themselves are you know kind of insure themselves in case. By in case things go bad from the from the get go -- By two by two -- -- the point -- astronomy from the fact is that. He could get a better off from Texas. But this is for Mike Napoli there is a lot of motivation and there as well as this is probably the best -- he's gonna sign a one year deal. And he feels like he can get through this -- than this probably is the best situation for him. To go back is appropriate right -- bettors know options at -- going in three years boys a 140 games or something in or not funny well and right and here's another thing -- so. Factoring in is that OK everyone knows now that he has this bad -- So when he goes on the market next year it's not going to be likely as a catcher. Is going to be at a first baseman so -- -- right so he has a year to basically prove himself as a batter first baseman that people perceive me. Red Sox fan right now though I mean you know united Keith and his first base. You know I mean you probably could I think he's available helping you know what I mean I mean now you know you think is good defense at first -- before right. And now with this stuff. You gotta be pretty concerned you have to have a player you have to have a backup player who's capable of being an everyday first baseman. Maybe a marginal on May be one -- quote -- replacement value replacement level player. But you need to have a pretty good first baseman and probably someone who can come in as a defensive substitute as well. Yes and and I talk to Michael about this earlier and obviously. Always a guy at the end of his career he played first base went from third. And could barely move -- the hip injury I don't think it went sixes is going to be that bad. But a big part of this is hands we don't know Michael had really good hands incredible -- threes away is the all time leading defensive third baseman by -- percent yet and so you can get by -- limited range at first baseman. But I'm delighted a lot of the if you I'll say hey I know how Mike Napoli stands are in the east. He can pick everything because this does become an issue if will middle Brooks is all of a sudden throw a couple one -- over. And he's not getting that gets in his head for young. Of those -- should be pretty good as -- as a guy well you you would think so but we just don't know right well we know is it was classified he's an OK first baseman. I would imagine he would get better as long as the hip doesn't. That doesn't basically make him. Limited in terms of getting better that was my biggest concern about now chain victory know join. This later though after this break a short break back Sam candy Red Sox CEO talk to us here on its back on the hot stove show joining us now in the AT&T hotline -- Red Sox CO Sam Kennedy Sam our UC. It's going great guys they sure haven't beyond. Carlos just start with the I guess -- the story of the week here the the Shaughnessy. Francona but here's my first question would be is have you read hitters -- -- -- -- excerpt that was in Sports Illustrated this week. I have not read the book but I have seen pieces of the -- tonight I think by now I've read most bit but that. A lot of emails. That I have seen come across my street in down there that certainly heard people talking about it over the last several days. I guess my question would be the the Warner. Francona meeting about sort of Mangini more exciting team to do so in essence ratings you said there was a meeting the other people there in the room were you in the room went to the conversation. Yeah you know I'm not gonna get into too many specifics. You other than to -- I I think that Theo Epstein actually. I'd corrected and clarified I think today which was which it's so as a helpful. And there may have been some other meetings I know I was at a meeting. Where we're Tom. Certainly did not say anything of the sort related to. Never in or the Red Sox in terms of on the makeup of the team but then apparently. There was another comment I think you know publicly stated today that can -- that in jest. Then pounded again I was a a really good sense of humor as is -- like it's the been discussing that and I can actually hear that -- coming out of his mouth because -- as a joke comments that made sense to me when I first heard -- putted I thought. That it kind of funny but it would -- -- clarified it that it makes sense. Well Sam lets -- kind of step back kind of broadly since he you know without going into details of the book because I haven't read it it's not out yet. What do you view as the proper relationship between the marketing side of a baseball operation of an organization. And the baseball operations side of things. Sure it's a great question. You know all the great sports organizations. Great ownership groups like ours. I think I have one goal and that's to win baseball games. And -- you know we can here for eleven years together cons are groups won two world championships. We've had six postseason appearances. One over a thousand baseball games in fact I think. The only other team when a thousand games during the period that we have been here for eleven years of the New York Yankees ironically so. -- the business side the baseball side in the end and the community. Outreach side. All of need to work together to achieve that common goal of winning games. Good to be clear the way -- that I view the world like this before myself. Is that we on the business side are here to support and provide. The necessary resources and and the baseball operations group to do everything in their power to field -- team that does one thing and that is win. Winning baseball games is he is and always has been in the central mission. The Boston Red Sox since we've been here and I think that the John Henry and Tom Werner and Larry Lucchino have have demonstrated. An incredible track record in doing that. And I noted that I'm really proud to be a part of the organization I know that. I -- was proud to be a part of this organization that's was Tito. And I certainly wish them both well as I know everyone in in our organization does. Salem it as as you said there is you've had a pretty consistent philosophy throughout. Your time here but have you noticed any change at all. The stay in the last three or four years whether it was a change a couple years ago or change back. When that everybody turned over last year have you noticed any kind of change in terms of the approach that you guys took in that respect. No I I haven't put I have noticed though Robinson didn't change in our. You know winning percentage. And I think that. And it -- started to cause. Different folks started. Criticize this organization's. More regularly in the -- I fully understand that and I fully respect that. Our job don't we are he'd. That we are here to do one thing and that is win baseball games and we know that. We take that responsibility very seriously. You know I I grew up a sports fan a passionate Red Sox fans. And there's nothing more important can be. Then then winning baseball games and so I think that over the past several years given that. We've fallen short of our sort of organizational. Goal or mandate which is to play based on October put yourself. In the post season and give yourself a chance to win the World Series we fall short of that so we have ten -- understandably. Criticize. And for a lot over the last several years and and that's on us to fix it and I recognize. That we have not performed up to beat the very high expectations. That to exist in this marketplace and I can assure you the John and I can't. Has given Larry and be content sharing it and our entire organization. The resources. 26 that and to get us back to. Where he belongs which is on top of the baseball world I really believe. That we I have -- know how about the work ethic a passion and dedication. To get it done but those are just words and so. It it it doesn't mean I am much cut coming from B right now -- and -- -- here for twelve years and wound and we. We tasted dead champagne and and we want to get back there and and and that's that's why we're all here. Same can it Red Sox COO joins us -- -- a quote from Franklin in the book talks about day games and final days of home stands he says. One thing the players were always asking for. Was getaway day games he owners would never go for that couldn't have more day games because the ratings were already suffering. And now -- heard worse is that an accurate. Because accusation from Francona. You know I think it's it's very little bit unfair characterization. We we sit down. -- with when we sat down with Theo Epstein wouldn't tears and can withstand them. Now -- and we try and I'll workout schedule that that works out well for the baseball operations. And it's. It -- the difficulty scheduling especially in New England with the weather issues is probably the most difficult. Think that we have to do. We would love to have more therapy games especially for kids and for families we've. In fact that made it a priority to add more league games over the last several years. But there are certain statistical issues and and pools with with each and every DP try to schedule came on site -- Into detail on on all of them but do you factory in. A chance where the most fans possible to see a game -- home either in person or on television. Yes we do so you have to. Take into consideration. So it is. Broadcast implications and impact on on the game. All game -- which is under our control. When you put together the schedule on time but it's unfair to characterize the fact that we we never -- -- -- -- Importer direction from baseball but again I'm not not being critical I haven't seen those specific quotes for anything it just. I know how fortunes in reality. Sam coming off of last season obviously that was that was as a number of people refer to it as a traumatic season for a lot of you guys. Clearly there's been a is significant restructuring and reshaping the roster. How how have you guys figured out what the marketing campaign is for this 2013 season. How how you presented you know in kind of sell it to the fan base and based on the quotes and excerpts that we've seen any thoughts of calling him bringing sexy back. -- except that that's Daria that's the last. Its legality you should probably keep your day job as it is the market as -- -- that is about as though you know we do we actually. I I think we are hopefully didn't let our actions speak a lot out of -- are words. We do have an obligation to market this team aggressively we we now. We we don't -- shy away from that a runaway from that we want to be a very aggressive. -- organization. On the baseball side on the marketing side and -- community outreach side. The and that's that's very important to us so. In terms of the I'm marketing this club and we have. All sorts of ways to communicate with our fans -- I think the most important thing is to -- John -- and that -- and I speak to the the baseball side in and the types of players that we've assembled. And the reasons that thought process. And assembling. Those those teams and and what we need to focus on mount on the business side is to make sure we're doing everything in our power to. Deliver the best possible fan experience at Fenway when people. -- here I think you guys know over the last eleven years we've invested. 285 million dollars -- the ballpark just to save Fenway Park. And our ownership group has given away over 600000050. Million dollars to charity and this group a little known facts on the probably don't talk about it but but I will. Did not take it one dollar. Not one dollar profit. From the process from the enterprise all the revenues that we generate. Are reinvested back into the club back into the player payroll back into renovate Fenway Park -- back into the operation of the team so. That's something that we're very proud of Islam and this group has made an incredible commitment is to advance and into the front office and so it's it's something that we're very proud of and then you know I. Ask for our fan base to like to keep pace here this offseason I know you -- -- -- -- we had a incredibly difficult incredibly difficult -- 69 wins. -- just something that. I've never ever been through before and it was awful and we we had tons of injuries I'm making excuses we can we just did. A lot of things went my own race from the get go. And hopefully it's you know when people give us a chance to -- to prove that. We can we get this thing back contract and and I'm confident that we will. Same as he says it all comes down to winning races it's it is either you win or you don't and the last two years there's been a problem in that respect. From your perspective which has been more difficult to sell the team was it last off season or has it been this offseason. I'm -- question I think you can feel the effects of a a really negative season on here on the on the business side and in terms of looking at pure. Sort of revenue categories. And -- hopper down. Do you really feel the effects the following season after a bad season in the Indy you'd get sort of the positives. -- and end up listed interest in demand. After a good season. So I think you know it is the last. Several years have -- have been tough just in general because as I mentioned we haven't as everyone knows we haven't been to the postseason is 2009. And it's that that's not acceptable we we we wanna get back there. And the good news is that it is ownership has. Given us all the resources to do just that. I don't think that pin abandoned my keys in Bryant who aren't Jerry Porter and Zack Scott and everyone in baseball operations. You guys know they're -- force seven. They are working even harder that's possible. This this past offseason to get to that to get us back on track so hit ball over the last several years have been difficult Robin and but I think this year. From and the business perspective will be will be tougher and last year just given the fact that. We had such a disappointing. Postseason on the field although who knows you know we get off to a decent start. We we we might be okay and I do think. At that our fans Woolsey. The commitment and hopefully we'll we'll get behind misspoke but we need to we need to let our actions speak louder than ours. Say may have to help me out here you guys track the consecutive amount of games you've had sellouts are now. Well we've we've heard something about about the sellout streak gets via. -- with that is there any talk about as fast or slow start the season if you do good -- to a slow start. Are you sensitive to the cynicism is out there regarding that streak. You don't we're we're really. He not come up but I do think that the sellout streak will -- -- I know what land at some point I don't know why and it may be in maybe this this April. You know maybe -- it it may not. Laughter -- see that's up to the fans and again we've said that repeatedly. It's a street that there are fans it's that no one in sports is ever see the tape of support that the Boston Red Sox have seen during this incredible. Incredible. Ten years this decade. That Henry Werner and Lucchino administration and it it is humbling. And hopefully the fans support will continue. Put up decent pragmatic and realistic about it. It this season you know it's going to be difficult to people are are. Are sort of go oh wait not -- -- some people are angry some people are upset that. And and I don't blame -- I understand that we we need to do a better job that we need to. When he can win baseball games. This season and and do it consistently so. We'll see what happens with a sellout streak down the putt it's not something that doesn't keeps this up at night despite. Some time popular to hit. Just it just to clarify on that point to you and I have had this conversation a little bit in the past but. How do you define a sellout and who defines aside is -- Major League is it defined by Major League Baseball or is it that is the standard set internally by the Red Sox. -- first of -- defined when united front when you have more tickets are distributed so so paid complimentary tickets -- exceed -- seating capacity. So that's the definition that it's not defined by Major League Baseball it's defined by the individual clubs and most baseball clubs and most other sports teams use that definition. And it's something that the Red Sox have viewed sport decades here at Fenway Park. Saying we're appreciated thanks for your time are. A lot that's saying -- Red Sox CEO quick break we're back on the hot stove show WB yeah. -- victory you know a few minutes here in the hot stove show WEEI. Before we do that. Alex managed to get his hands and copier and how he did it. Francona with -- Francona the Red Sox years. -- we have adequate weeks we haven't seen red Sports Illustrated. Only only turned a couple of pages literally just got my hands on before the show but I doubt there's a pretty good anecdote. Right hip and right out of the gate about. I'm not about the 2004 World Series parade and die in there being an issue of lost sweat shirts that had. World champions the Red Sox -- the market come -- they couldn't be found in the clubhouse and and Larry Lucchino apparently braille did someone at a Red Sox employee about can we do anything right. And so if you look at footage of the 2004 World Series parade. You'll notice Terry Francona wearing a University of Arizona had rather than a Red Sox -- as what he described in the book as quote his silent protest. You know what take away from the -- the -- yet on the excerpt. I have a tough time it was a -- night. Problems in the stuff Lucchino is done and done in the past year wars past couple years. The point you know they appear that dialogue money they handed him a team that went via CS the year before added fault and it Schilling. Many guys who won World Series those people managers who want answers -- those teams. And now it just seems to me you writing a book this is a year and a half later he's real angry about the stuff still. It just seems like sour grapes. Was angry he's angry you know owners -- mean this is everyone's who's he gonna take -- that it's going to be the owners out for the players just reading even. Stuff for a relationship and Michael all which was. Was it took the hard some hard time tomorrow. Last few days there is really nothing this kind of skimming through the book now. I think the owners of the one and this and the parts and I've read in the times that we've had this book it's been -- -- it's it's really a good read. But the one thing that should be understood is that that excerpt about written on the owners for wanting to spend all this money. The motivation was all screwed up. The motivation for screwed for the reason why you want to spend the money to get sexy nest in ratings at that screwed up but if you're the manager of the Boston Red Sox. Think he's probably complaining they wanna -- I. I did very hard to believe doubts that the data he sank Carl Crawford he was taken stuff around the trade free agent Gonzales u.'s upset even John Lackey. I find it hard to believe that Terry Francona aired like rob said they were doing it for best ratings that's -- fact that they were doing -- that really hard to believe. The masters being disingenuous -- the time because he was one of the most outspoken advocates of Carl Crawford even of John Lackey and you shouldn't blame him for television -- those -- the -- -- -- -- -- you're thinking about Dick how are we going to be better than the other team today. Are going to be better this week this month this year it's not -- like all you know what we're taking the wrong pass. Right in listening to a bad job at the in the Francona no question about it they've done a bad job here last year two years terrible job ownership -- really bad. But again I'll go back to this they spent a lot of money. And from Terry Francona is perspective. I just don't get why he remains this upset eludes me it really. All of -- suddenly Ernesto we don't know how upset we don't know the whole overarching tenor of the book you know and he's set in a couple of interviews since FedEx or came out. That he describes a lot of the really good and some of the really in some of the really negative stuff that happened during his tenure -- is trying to give a complete portrait. In the fact of the matter is it's easy for us to glom onto the negative stuff. Because that's you know like. The other thing until -- until -- -- Eric the thing is is that in the this -- I agree with Francona. He mentions this in the book is that the ownership. Did come a process every after 2011. Everywhere discover -- about it. Every one was just worried about covering themselves and not worried about hey you know what what about tire for ago what about the players what about lose -- everyone those days in October you go back to it. It was a widespread and the owners were at the had the line in terms of trying to cover themselves and that's where I do agree with them. In that respect. I -- I guess that's that's fair but I'll also say this hero quick you know Francona wanted to complaints in the excerpt was that these guys -- real baseball. Now I would say you want that relief from ownership if you Francona they left you won't forever you won championships they spent money like crazy forty -- a player you wanted. Paid him fine. You want to Jerry Jones of baseball. To want you want a guy whose whose whose hands are all over the place. And I I've found that assertion somewhat puzzling because I do think that John Henry and you know Tom Warner have romanticize passions for the game so what Terry Francona means I don't know what the expectation is. When you're talking about owners who don't love baseball who like it. On and I agree with you I think that you probably want if you're a baseball operations staff and ownership group that's willing to kind of back off the reins a little bit and say. You know we're going to trust the people who we pay to make these decisions to make these decisions rather than to be the kind of -- some Jerry Jones Daniel Snyder type right yeah. A Steinbrenner mean you know -- the sort of a classic case like that. This is it enough so that Francona doesn't like the owners and there's a lot of reasons why he doesn't like him he has a grudge against them. And you know -- Our system that -- a lot of legitimate arguments. As some that we know some that we don't know. By of the fact this is it that that's when you read this book my sense. As it that's unique anatomy again come back to it I don't think it's going to be like oh well you know what all these players -- play it was bad this player is now the. Quick break here we come back Shane Victorino joins us on the hot -- Back on the hot stove show in 937 WEEI joining us now in the AT&T hotline is chain victory know machine it's Kirk Robin out -- that. Good ending you here in this offseason what's what's going on. Not so much history are very much so. You know -- you know has spoken out each and every day. Obviously the news of today is that you have been named to the -- to WBZ team team USA again. I'm interested in hearing what was that experience like the last go around in was there any trepidation or any where you did you have any pause about doing the WBZ this time around. Given that unlike last time you with a new team this go round. Are absolutely not in it's an honor once he's been in -- -- you know to work that that. A letter of caution chipped that in depth on our in there was -- certain guys out and for me you know create a situation is a little upper being ignored parishioners -- back so. You know I think you know ultimately is this meant the Kurt. Getting myself. You know being there before that situation. Without and being fortunate we where that team. You know why I hurt myself -- felt like holes you know great in order to achieve until. You know that was the artwork. I questioned I think -- question. You know back there are you that theory -- my -- you know me being -- it straight -- -- I think that there's an idea about like I'll be prepared you know a -- -- I know that one of those good things about being that he's yet to meet a lot of the guys that you don't necessarily get to play it was the play against sometimes. And I know that you were able to form so our relationship with Dustin Pedroia over the last WBZ and you actually fairway and -- so bleak in Miami. Nor can you just talk about seeing him when he did that and what went through your mind and also. This if you had talked to him about the whole WBZ's experience because he isn't gonna play. Are -- I think you know any kind but he injured and you know my opinion about it -- -- it happens in training you know people out and very well. You know maybe it would hurt him to play in the -- game mode in that situation like that but. Ultimately I think the courier so -- you know that being there by an adult -- you know what dates or myself -- You know I had answering -- -- -- not have anybody you know out here you know you know nobody -- anybody get hurt you know watching dusty get -- And you know experts that I mean that was -- straight and it got -- a lot of energy out of that scene in and go out you know got four outs situation but. Again you know we spoke about it actually be attacked you know -- situation -- you -- anyone -- -- -- You know he would sit there you go by yeah. I'll look quite so it probably part. Shane Victorino joins us here in the hot stove show Shane with the news -- state looks like the Mike Napoli things close to resolution Howard look at the Red Sox here offseason -- hole. As a spring training is what about a month away. I think it's been great you know black positions. It may be in better you know I and you know. People are. -- -- -- -- You know -- and it went pretty well you know what happened. Like pat. You know -- winning her a lot I think that in all not actually human Charlie and you know any deleted it and you know falls in and coming up short. And it also evident -- lectured innkeeper chart or to figure out about the in the critical about the the camaraderie in the mean you know ultimately in the end it's about. I think there's you know a great court and it's -- you know from -- to -- it -- you. To guys like Lester buckle date on the bubble I got swept. Formed his unit have been there will be one and -- steps in and they don't need world there wouldn't be. You know it's been it's been about -- as -- all coming together at the end of other pieces come together like myself and Jill -- happily. You know getting it up into unable you know keep on and on about that RB. It -- about. And are now -- -- and guys that have papers and I bought a little bit and got the most important market I could be a couple of people. It's interesting that you bring up the idea that the Red Sox had dealt with a couple of a couple of difficult end to their last two seasons. I know that the Red Sox felt that it was important to find guys were going to be able to handle the scrutiny that comes along with that and that's part of the appeal of you I think that you're willing to embrace that challenge. How is that discussed over the course of the over the course of the signing period. Was that something was it was it the case that you kind of through your representatives reached out to the Red Sox and said you know we're we're very interested you know we we know what's happened. We're ready to go in in in Boston embraced that challenge was it something that was discussed explicitly. With them by bench Harrington with you and with your agents. Not at all on the -- Red Sox are answers early in -- when you look at it on the game and being able to play consistently like I did the last eight. -- A great pitcher allowed -- a big market for -- and you know like people arrested immediate stop and -- -- up you know what I tried it and be better to try to work harder. They try to view you know be a bit and be a better player. I think that you know hey some people -- or somewhat and at the end of the day Ike did real well in baseball. You know I have my period is OK I go out there and -- I can't figure they're not there but he going to be but it -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You know what I -- a lot of respect and anybody can question me -- -- -- a lot and I don't keep on you -- extra well but he didn't know. That -- parents you know on the continued legitimately so. You know going back it -- -- all that you know again. -- about Stewart charged up about the organization and spent -- in baseball. You know at the -- deep in the rest of record in that cardinal -- you know. Often out of the game it comes to that I Tigers baseball so I'm excited -- -- -- -- that he brought their. We're not -- a former -- just a couple of. Saying I talked a little bit about this of the press conference but it -- -- trust in me in terms of your past the -- switch hitter. That is that you took up switch hitting actually when you got into professional baseball it's all like guys do usually guys either do it. When their high school college or early on in life that you talk a little bit about that and anything that you've done differently in terms of preparing. -- from a hitting standpoint from a hitting both sides of the plate. Middle you know it's I -- art and it was four. -- I don't let alone and I struggled but you know it from one side but you know each and every network I wanna go there and be a better -- not. BJ I don't work but I computers and I but I still work my mechanics -- I'm -- I mean you know if you look. Mean it's just about ten years now. And I've been switching in India it'll be. Did you know that and they are still -- -- each -- I hope that the opening props from me you know and having good coaches pastrami BP made to -- me. Bet that that. Help media better hitter. Jane I was just wondering your thoughts and you better relation here with -- tight and he went to the championship game -- you -- Franzen talked to my Twitter I guess your thoughts here and what's happened. Last 24 hours -- the Notre Dame star. To go out to jump -- you -- We you know we're unfortunate situation. And and it's the truth is that the all angles. -- it -- I missed a spot about it. So you know again not much on that once you know -- development and and more ball about of people speculated. Eric. You know projecting ultimately understand that you know and -- -- -- -- it's Barbeque all these deliberate -- where. Who knows the truth I don't know the truth and I get on the it is you know I really have no mistake about it and it would figure out. You know someone comes forward and released there as well really. Have you spoken to him though since in the last day or so no. Just to bring it back out to where we were starting I'm curious you know thinking about the WBZ obviously it's an honor to be named that team. That the team USA has has not won obviously in the first two iterations of it. How how much does that get your competitive juices flowing the idea being able to compete for your country. And have have you had a lot of dialogue with other guys are going to be on the team. About you know maybe maybe seeing team USA -- -- take it to the next level in terms of its competition in the tournament. I mean if you don't mean you know my nature and it's a long way to do that to compete everyday you know I and so. You know I think it's about you know it became a big -- real -- not as it is somebody got -- about those. You know yes we want to win every year you know we go about it that way but. If you look at. And I look at the way it is roster has been built back and some of the into the if you look at some of the names that are on the roster you might not be a star studded field. You know all big names you know like in previous years but I think competitive. It's -- that ought to win contract at that nature -- -- and -- support and I think that to not speak individual -- -- Over the ball when he called -- to you know -- that I selected to keep. Belichick spoke to those who wanna go out there quit and not just go out there where that you are -- chest deep part of acted almost. Well out there and be competitive deal with. So again that's helpful to you know get well what happened but at that format in the -- -- few days they used as a bit deep in the world. A shame we appreciate your time thanks a lot this evening aren't. Pitching victory of the Red Sox back after break on the hot stove -- And operate the not missed a couple a rifle. Amateur -- chain victory you know. He has not talked him into detail as a really opened some -- conversation. Is the truth will come out. Now it's -- made should be noted that he's he's he has been very invested in me anti details Korea throughout the season. Both were among the best high school athletes and Hawaii never so they have that -- Agbayani. -- better than them he's number three. But yes so that's that's why that question was asked and it's it's a legitimate and I think they make it well and and unless you've used one past. What's the so what's -- here tonight there's the weather what is it -- small town hall that is not play dad and judging by our main DJ he's on this team but. Yeah at judging by the tweets coming out there not a lot of -- December as will start war. They think they he's gonna start for Mexico. And a WBZ which is nearly the uses guys as starters throughout spring training -- -- writers are going to be stretched her dad and -- predictably said you know but he -- progress with Napoli not can't confirm it that I guess that is code for they have to take another as. Out out there actually he said that they won't necessarily have to thank -- I'm I'm saying that's okay. And it was an all Daniel Bard and anything barrels apparently going to fly -- fly out to see him very soon but it. I think that it's you know it's kind of where things are where things have been for much of the offseason by. You know he's kind of having to take take a step back in and more fully reconsider what he had a one of those things when I talked to him when was a couple weeks ago. -- trust Tennessee obviously he has to correct a lot of things. He would mention the back issue is part of the problem not the problem -- the prom. And said that he was doing a lot things differently in this offseason to correct that so you know we'll see what happens. That's it we're Don actually I went -- to all the things I wanna I wanna pass along your first album this coming weekend there's a great event called new stars for young stars. It's a Jimmy Fund event that -- Jimmy Fund raiser they doubted features an opportunity to meet a lot of the top Red Sox prospects great event and that next Thursday. Where at next Thursday is the -- in baseball writers' association of America dinner the awards dinner an opportunity to meet a bunch of of Red Sox players and to -- at a fancy pants events and ever in my experience it's Diego that's -- that's a record tonight a week from tonight -- And I strongly -- again flipping through the Francona bush strongly recommended. What is your best in this -- I really well if I go yeah I don't open line going I don't -- gets a you don't you don't -- everybody I know I don't I don't know I don't know I don't read books -- that you you -- like any other writers what's going -- I think it's like there's some of 200 fair financial high -- because he doesn't read any -- so impressed with this is -- -- -- -- -- -- I typically -- accident you can guess the ending the future especially exactly for -- and our. Well they go thanks to Shane Victorino and Sam can you for joining us. A hot stove shall be back one week from tonight planet Mikey is up next year W yeah.