WEEI>On Demand>>Tough times for the Boston Celtics

Tough times for the Boston Celtics

Jan 3, 2013|

We look at how difficult a road it's been for the 2012-2013 Boston Celtics, and whether or not there should be optimism going forward.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

I can't edit show our way to -- it's excellent 7077. It's been a 937. If you wanna talk about -- -- We're free feel free put it's been really. It's it. I'll say this it's hard to watch right now because year yeah you know why. Because right now with -- and try to make all of these excuses and all these reasons right now very bad basket -- You know I had a basket and you don't want consistently bad basket look back at that Netscape in the nets were having to -- Issues as well I know they've gone out there once since -- change coaches and things like that they will go to their role and stuff. During that period of time we do for the pop up at the next segment I believe the association and that -- derby featured this year I was bogus by the way. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Little quick answers not all -- going to be a political at all I'm gonna say that was bogus let me ask you the question again. That's spent the last two years -- play was crap. My fitness point trying to to to get to this point and preparing for a move to Brooklyn and thought about or that New Jersey Nets in name only. Mentally emotionally the entire franchise was in Brooklyn. And they hire Avery Bradley. So he could get -- ready. When they actually had some players right the first time apartment between games we have some players the players aren't all that great either I think what went on what coach shall plus. Avery Johnson. The players are having Joseph Johnson and that's an owner of the Joseph Johnson is a good player but not lead dog don't know a lot of he -- -- disagree with me and that's. Deron Williams. Is a good player. Not a -- I would agree. A lot of props hey you're new to our Rondo being the top -- probably -- about we will pop bottle now and he will. -- thanks. Some nice. Players. Have great players. And even if they did. Is gonna take a little more than 28 games. For the I thought it was for the for the Brooklyn nets to figure out exactly who they are. I thought it was actually fool but I will tell you this is it so that when might have been a little bit deceiving. And that stuff was going on that that you go beyond that the clippers game was an embarrassment total numbers wellcare. You've got to play better the clippers won an unbelievable. You've got to play better than that you gave up in the first quarter game was over. Right out of the gate. And you're right the Sacramento game is legal only got cousins puts up a triple double -- maybe just want -- you could convince Danny Ainge. And -- that he wants to come to Boston he doesn't wanna play often anymore. And by the way. For I've heard people over the last couple days -- -- jump at you gotta go get cousins in the basing it on the up side to this young kid right now. How can you bring him in to this setting knowing that if this doesn't work. You might keep KG over the next couple years you might -- -- Paul Pierce for another year and they are going to put the franchise in the hands. All of the markets cousins and Rajon Rondo. Well. I don't understand why Geoff Petrie did that the first place for the guy who once upon -- time was -- was a terrific player rookie of the year there's a rookie of the year went on to be. Executive of the year so a guy. With that much basketball pedigree with that much cents. For a guy to do that top of the draft. A top five pick to bring in DeMarcus Cousins. Eight is is mind boggling because on day one. Afford anyone on draft day. He walked up to the stage with this now. In his college coach said. Oh. People think he has an attitude problem does have a man two but I know better and -- John Calipari guess what what else is new airline -- You're lying again I can't tell. It's a problem any problem everywhere it's day one in the league with a problem like Kentucky. When he is traded somewhere else will be fine for a couple of weeks maybe a couple of months and he'll be a problem they're too. You bring him in here though in this market. Where there's a lot of media. Lot of competitive media. And I think it could be that -- wrong place. For the basket easy it is -- account ticket yes it does he have great upside he does but how many times have you seen players come along. That have great upside -- just don't have the attitude don't love the game enough. Don't respect the game enough and respect the people that they're playing within a game and a fall -- they've become -- -- he he's too much of a risk. To put your whole franchise the future of your whole franchise on if you Boston he's a taller Antoine Walker with the worst attitude. I don't I don't think Edgewater and having lost it's a close. And -- right Antoine Antoine. His attitude at times became a problem but yet you legitimately. Well wanted to win games didn't know how to do it -- DeMarcus Cousins he's out he's just got a bad attitude and his attitude is gonna prevent him from maximizing. I agree with you. Because of you know it's not like it's a 101 individual -- would you point tennis you need him. You mailed it in blend in with the other guys out there on the floor if you defense is going to work he's got to be part of the progression of what you're doing out there. I just don't see that happen I really don't. And and watch some of the interviews go online and look at some of the interviews had to listen -- conversations he has with people. I I think he's a kid that I would really worry about and I really care about. I gonna -- get to give up a lot to completely give up now you'd have to give up and when you people loved it ever look at the numbers. And they put together sellinger with Brad Bradley and -- only because the numbers work. That's the reason much. Work. That they're talking to Sacramento about if the deal work to be made in Boston. You'd you'd have to give up Rondo. For them to give it doesn't take a look at Sacramento's -- point -- -- -- his what fifth pick I think all the Roma -- round draft and they sit there going. Well why would we take -- -- back. Three guys that are you know maybe Melo can be -- down the road. Salinger is a good complementary. Player what are your favorite Bradley is a one dimensional defense. Would not getting an impact player in. Okay that's the fan perspective. Do you think. They're they're talking about the front office and ownership which out of Sacramento Sacramento. I'll bet. Their their real close to the point where -- giveaway will they after that they would give him away if they did. The way. You might think about it if it's not if you're not risking much and if you can have a short leash on the down. You might look at it that way and say okay -- -- I don't I'm not sure I would give up. A substantial piece of my team. Get a guy like -- is now suddenly you're totally relying on him. To be good if he isn't he causes you problems down. -- and and don't and don't focus on his agent has -- a great things that 22 -- a great things that. Charles Barkley certainty in -- Barkley is funny any outrageous but he. He knows his basketball he acts like he's well -- not point to the one of the things that Barkley says it is well why we always talk about. How old the guys talk about how long he's been in the league and so. There are some people were just patient for as you know he's only been only for five years and Italy for three years. Essentially you can tell. After a couple of years. What a guy's going to be even if he's not finished as a player you can see what his attitude is you can see what is what is habits are. You can see the potential. Based on the work ethic. I wouldn't touch. Wouldn't touch what would be on my team know things you can just see an old and a wedge and. Well we'll get some will open up the phone lines here for. Yeah it'll happen we will get people call and say well you know KG will offer good. Good -- cure for. Wells supposed to kid doesn't wanna be better suppose he doesn't want to listen to KG in -- for. That's seems to be the case with his teammates are having major difficulty with him he's already had one coach fired. He's also a -- Smart now who is committed taken the position. He's already suspended him because but you know Tim credit -- for a suspension somehow they're not on the same page there Keith Smart. Suspend him what's been definitely right yeah as an indefinite suspension turnout to be. A gain do you think the balloons once again Kamal what do you think dealers but that's brought out the problem -- shortest. But that happens all the time and then you've got Clifford ray nicest guy in the world rally in Oakland it works like this -- at work works with big guys. He's not learning from him all the Smart thing that Sacramento did is they had cousins agent. -- kind of light. He is a chaperone guardian there and they regarding. And they had him around I think for about a month month and a half where he was traveling with a team everywhere cousins when he -- 'cause it's got to the point where he did like it you don't get fired a chance. You want to be accountable sorry your fired a shortcut to me that it -- that is scary stuff what you're thinking about bringing a guy like that in here. All right and that that leads us back to the Celtics. What do you do for the Celtics you know I don't like this answer. You stick with what you got because give it to me and Joyce was built that way. There are no easy fixes with the Celtics. And and you think you've got to be able to trade -- made it and I wouldn't do this but it's a start up there would you trade KG for DeMarcus Cousins and it's not gonna happen. Sacramento's not gonna do that a lot of teams are gonna do that. Kate can you get rid of of Paul Pierce is the team has not built that way as we talked about earlier Danny Ainge built this team. He designed this team for one more run. If not two more rest but probably one more one more good push. Four a conference championship and an NBA championship. In because they are designed that way in the either concede that way. It is not it is not easy. To just make these quick fixes can't -- that we're talking about wouldn't trade Michelle. You're absolutely right and we talked about the -- Q when they decided. They were gonna bring KG back in essence meant they were gonna continue moment of Paul Pierce contract. That that was it. You know they made their bed and that's -- at the line of that is it you can now go and blow this thing out. You have to let this thing play out right now and unfortunately that's the only choice thing out if they don't get better. People are gonna get --

Audio On Demand

Jerod Mayo joins MFB, 7-3…

Jerod Mayo joins MFB, 7-30-14

Patriots LB, Jerod Mayo, talks about the high praise he's been receiving from coach Belichick, trying to forget about last year, and what the team hopes from the defense.

Danny Amendola joins MFB, 7-30-14

Patriots WR, Danny Amendola, joined the show for a bit to talk about his health, the evolution of the playbook, and the heated battles between the offense and defense.

It Is What It Is Cast: Brandon Browner gets fired up

WEEI.com's Mike Petraglia and Chris Price discuss Wednesday's Patriots practice, which featured Brandon Browner getting into it with Kenbrell Thompkins and a couple others.

Jackie MacMullan, ESPN Bo…

Jackie MacMullan, ESPN Boston, "I think Rondo is going to go, I just don't see where and how yet" 7-17-14

Jackie Mac joins the guys to discuss her thoughts on a possible mid-season tournament in the NBA, LeBron's return to Cleveland, trade rumors with the Celtics and Red Sox, and Darrelle Revis' contract situation.

Jackie MacMullan, ESPN Boston: I believe Rondo will be traded 7-10-14

Jackie MacMullan of ESPN Boston to talk about the Lebron James Saga, the possibility of Rajon Rondo being traded, and the future of Marcus Smart.

OK State Men's Basketball coach, Travis Ford, joins MFB to talk about Marcus Smart, 6-30-14

Former coach of Celtics 1st-round pick Marcus Smart, Travis Ford joins MFB to talk about what Celtics fans should expect from the strong point guard. Among other things, Coach Ford says Smart will be a hard worker, and will improve his shooting ability.

Sox Manager John Farrell …

Sox Manager John Farrell with Dale and Holley

As news looms about a possible Jon Lester trade, we sit down with the skipper of your Sox live from Fenway park.

Buster Olney, ESPN, on the impending Jon Lester trade, 7-30-14

Multiple sources have indicated that Jon Lester will be dealt before the July 31st trade deadline. Buster talks to MFB regarding possible destinations, and he seems to think Lester will land in the NL Central. He also suggests that the Sox might as well get rid of John Lackey if they're going to deal Lester.

Tim Kurkjian, ESPN: Red Sox are in a tough place with Lester 7-28-14

Tim Kurkjian joins the program to discuss the Red Sox options at the trade deadline.

The Bradfo Show: Talking …

The Bradfo Show: Talking Bruins roster moves with DJ Bean, Turtleboy

Rob Bradford is joined by WEEI.com Bruins beat writer DJ Bean, as well as Boston sports fan/blogger Turtleboy to talk all things Bruins free agency. With the B's recent moves, the conversation turns to where the Bruins might next turn and what kind of dent losing Jarome Iginla and Shawn Thornton might make.

DJ Bean breaks down the first hours of NHL Free Agency 7-1-14

DJ discusses Shawn Thornton's new deal, and the on going negotiations with Jerome Iginla

DJ Bean, WEEI.com. The Bruins are not traded Marchand 6-13-14

DJ Bean joins the program to dismiss the recent rumors that the Bruins are in discussions to trade Brad Marchand to the Sharks for Patrick Marleau

Gordon Edes: "95% chance …

Gordon Edes: "95% chance Lester gets traded" 7-30-14

ESPN Boston's Gordon Edes gave us the latest on the Lester trade talks.

Headlines, Headlines, Headlines: Hillary Clinton wants to change the Redskins mascot 7-30-14

The top stories of the day as recounted by John Dennis.

Jon Lester scratched 7-30-14

Joh, Gerry and Buck opened the show by discussing the latest rumors surrounding Jon Lester.

Buster Olney, ESPN, on th…

Buster Olney, ESPN, on the impending Jon Lester trade, 7-30-14

Multiple sources have indicated that Jon Lester will be dealt before the July 31st trade deadline. Buster talks to MFB regarding possible destinations, and he seems to think Lester will land in the NL Central. He also suggests that the Sox might as well get rid of John Lackey if they're going to deal Lester.

Jerod Mayo joins MFB, 7-30-14

Patriots LB, Jerod Mayo, talks about the high praise he's been receiving from coach Belichick, trying to forget about last year, and what the team hopes from the defense.

Danny Amendola joins MFB, 7-30-14

Patriots WR, Danny Amendola, joined the show for a bit to talk about his health, the evolution of the playbook, and the heated battles between the offense and defense.

John Farrell with Dale an…

John Farrell with Dale and Holley

As news looms about a possible Jon Lester trade, we sit down with the skipper of your Sox live from Fenway park.

Making sense of all the trade talk with WEEI.com's Alex Speier

We check in with Alex on the eve of the trade deadline.

Waving goodbye to the ol' Lefty? Jon Lester appears headed out of Boston

We respond and react to the news that Jon Lester may no longer be a member of the Boston Red Sox once the trade deadline passes.

Jon Lester's Contract Sit…

Jon Lester's Contract Situation and the Future

Mut and Villani are talking about whether the Red Sox will give Jon Lester the type of contract he is looking for, or whether they might be shopping him with rumors of the Red Sox scouting Cole Hamels.

The All Star Game and the Worst Ideas in Sports

Mut and Villani are talking about the MLB All Star Game, Adam Wainwright and Derek Jeter, and what are some of the worst ideas in sports.

We're all yelling about LeBron James

Producer's Podcast-Is Leb…

Producer's Podcast-Is Lebron a Genius? 7-29-14

Sam and Zach discuss changing the format of the Podcast, the Chris Archer-David Ortiz debacle, and LeBron James being a super genius

Minor Details Ep. 94.2 with Jim Callis of MLB.com: Are Red Sox prospects overvalued?

Particularly in a year where the Red Sox have struggled while trying to integrate numerous young players into regular big league roles, accusations that Red Sox prospects are overrated -- whether by the team or writers -- have been widespread. Jim Callis of MLB.com joins the show to take stock of the matter, and to discuss the team-building impact of overrating and underrating prospects.

Minor Details Ep. 94.1: Are prospects overvalued? Andrew Miller on being traded for Miguel Cabrera

With the trade deadline looming, the next few days will be defined by how teams value prospects -- and their potential long-term contributions -- against big leaguers with established track records who can address immediate needs. Are prospects being valued accurately? Red Sox left-hander Andrew Miller -- once one of the two key chips that sent Miguel Cabrera from the Marlins to the Tigers -- assesses the matter.

Gordon Edes: "95% chance …

Gordon Edes: "95% chance Lester gets traded" 7-30-14

ESPN Boston's Gordon Edes gave us the latest on the Lester trade talks.

More from this show

Rob Bradford on the lates…

Rob Bradford on the latest with the Sox at the deadline 7-28-14

Rob gave the latest on Jon Lester trade talks and the flap between Ortiz and the Rays.

More from this show

Minor Details Ep. 94.2 wi…

Minor Details Ep. 94.2 with Jim Callis of MLB.com: Are Red Sox prospects overvalued?

Particularly in a year where the Red Sox have struggled while trying to integrate numerous young players into regular big league roles, accusations that Red Sox prospects are overrated -- whether by the team or writers -- have been widespread. Jim Callis of MLB.com joins the show to take stock of the matter, and to discuss the team-building impact of overrating and underrating prospects.

More from this show

Jon Lester is on the tabl…

Jon Lester is on the table, will he end up in LA? 7-28-14

We talk about the latest news surrounding Jon Lester and the Red Sox. Could he be dealt to the Dodgers?

More from this show

Jon Lester scratched 7-30…

Jon Lester scratched 7-30-14

Joh, Gerry and Buck opened the show by discussing the latest rumors surrounding Jon Lester.

More from this show

Weei Writers