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December 6th Hot Stove Show

Dec 6, 2012|

Kirk Minihane, Alex Speier and Ian Browne are in on this weeks Hot Stove show. they recap some of the winter meetings and talk with Red Sox Assistant GM Mike Hazen and Red Sox new outfielder Jonny Gomes.

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Another edition of the hot stove showed 937 WE -- we're here for an hour is -- and again it is Alex -- again. And really I mean realistically the third man in this group Bradford out. Is out centimeter in the break Bradford useless but -- with the -- the rest of the way Steelers out LB dot com anyway which -- aware of Bradford. That's true community care laws will be beautiful but we if we don't you told us last week. Swimming is all things for Patrick umbrella as he does that which I mean as par for if granted he does that in Boston even in this studious -- And especially because the swimsuit also is not just limited here is great. So both you guys were in Nashville past couple hours ago. When we got what's the overall what do we think when it's done went in with expectations here a week ago now we -- office happen would we think. Man they were pretty aggressively you know to get guys to get what they saw as a couple of primary needs addressed they really have. Put themselves in in a position where okay they've addressed most of their positional needs they can afford to may be weight back a little bit on him and kind of rounding out the roster. But they need to get the starting pitching question addressed right now but. They've added a couple of guys on big deals three and 39 each it's very nice to have that as the template for -- both right now and we didn't we'll get those guys in the second -- start today year. You know the most recent -- the Red Sox I agree we are -- pretty good. Yeah it was a nice. It -- the -- -- is watching the the Japanese paparazzi chased Fred Jackson out of out of the Gaylord opryland hotel today. In a desperate for an answer for -- can confirm the signing but it. You know it is done it we crossed it I just want to point out we we've confirmed it and the pending a physical -- I think it was a great way and the meets one of them because. -- heard all about Napoli you know you knew they were again after the -- victory you know our swisher when most guys. But you know we are this guy in here and Cuba in him much of a -- Sox upgrading the bullpen it is -- have they have a lot of guys come back service has. Put a dominant numbers last series pitched in big games the last couple years army ruinous -- Still mean almost you know you not to be you know you'll hyperbole here and almost distort numbers when he pitches well boxing is the downside is the has been some injuries. Right he is when healthy he's one of the greatest strikeout to walk -- guys in Major League history he has multiple seasons of having more than ten strikeouts per walk. He did it -- American League east when he was with the terrible Orioles team he was still just attack attack attack Star Search starts six strike. And it worked and in -- the Red Sox a couple of years ago had interest in him. But they've rarely screaming I thought from the medical. And so they they didn't get too involved when he ended up signing. Back with the Orioles which turned out to be a really good deal for them on a one year plus an option deal because then they were able to leverage that. In a trade value trade him to the Rangers get prospects back. They actually made a great deal the Orioles -- I think that's where they got Chris Davison Tommy Hunter basically. You know I'm ready -- guy. So the Red Sox get insurance and their bullpen which they need. If if he's healthy that is if he's healthy they also might have a surplus at some point which would permit them to flip him get more prospects. That's been known I mean it sounds like almost certainly he's coming here Napoli. Victory I think it's the ideal so that continues sort of treat people around here you know when -- -- goal line it always is is right the mystery team it -- -- error and two players three radio host it not rob Bradford who's been you guys to continue to jump on our -- -- And Hamels and now it sounds like you've confirmed him -- confirm -- and on Monday I think left. Left the -- the -- for two and a half hours now with the player. It was Hamilton. You're Seattle stopped now how realistic is it -- you know one out of ten -- Josh Hamilton will be with -- Red Sox next year. That's it somewhere between 1015%. And in the Red Sox. Are real long shot here I'm I'm not one of those people get worked up because they met face to face and it's almost beat. Things that fans get all excited when they see that headline like Josh Hamilton is in town he's in natural to me with teams. With a Red Sox we do on the job they didn't cartoon it's a lot and instead of having them out -- -- similarly if he is good replacement sabathia. At style that I any real chance of signing him the timing and I got to cover your bases right they've met with I think they met with Cliff Lee before they offered him seven years and a hundred million dollars which kind of joked contract Brett. Meant to put the Yankees and a bad position. I think the reality is that the Red Sox to my mind I don't see them extending beyond three years I see one of the other teams saying. We're gonna get this done we need to get Hamilton we've been shut out elsewhere in the marketplace we're going to step up for a fourth year that's my guess. And I had just you know my -- is that the Red Sox won't extend be on the come from point which is three years from. Any Ellsbury thing is interesting it -- briefings to strange story so many ways it's tough if you if you keep right now you know you risking losing him for the pick. If you get her right now you're selling low does that -- factor did you get the center fielder mark is starting to dry up. You know Ellsbury is just a tricky situation soup to nuts you really don't know what to do the clip sleeping -- up the -- now with the trade today but what is the future of Ellsbury here in this. They want him to play has. But off and to be an awesome player. The -- don't just say you only get the pick because you get a 2013 season when you get a potentially really good dynamic impact player who can help you. On both offense and defense you know run prevention and run in run scoring. And so if he's healthy if he's motivated which he obviously is to be really really good that you have a very good player who can impact your team in a lot of ways and then you get the panic but. They they would need if he were to move elsewhere have been told they would only do it if it upgraded their rotation right now they've only heard from teams willing to offer prospects. They they aren't anywhere near anything that would move elsewhere but. Prospects say he is as good as this prostitute like who's as good as that -- potentially what to do. Well I got to look at it this way RE gonna make your team better. EU trade Ellsbury and you have Victorino and Sandner. You have -- were they like Cody Ross from right. As I gonna be better off our but I really question I would ask is I don't think this team in the World Series amounted to good -- so if I'm looking at is a -- your perspective I -- embryonic Bridget I'm -- I've done right this year. It -- get the best deal you can for Ellsbury if you are short that you're going to lose him. Adjust to at least at the very least seriously explore that option I think you're making a mistake there to dismiss the possibility of contending -- as we sit at this point Yeltsin in the Al east is not a division that has. That it has monsters and I don't think. I think the Red Sox have a very reasonable chance of competing if they can find ways. Of making the pitching staff better and part of that is better outfield defense. Which you can get through victory -- dolls there and if the Oakland -- in Baltimore and you last year evidence that but I mean that's -- -- -- -- are those those -- years and happened all of and I understand Tampa Bay in 2000 you know I think things can happen. Idea of the Red Sox right now understand it's it's not a member of the December 6 December said he's a days ago it is. The Yankees in his in his Tampa is is Toronto may be a -- the regular third best team. I honestly I've said this before and I stand by that I have no idea right -- I -- I can see a case for basically. Went through for any team except for the Orioles and I'm selling them short I do and underscored the -- the notion that they were one year wonders is a little bit exaggerated but. I think that I think any team I think it's wide open yeah I think the Red Sox were so bad last year. Cart that you forget what could happen at some of these guys play up to their level this year we have Jon Lester pitches like Jon Lester clay buckles. You know gives you -- clear David Ortiz up stays healthy for for those does not -- But you know -- to see everyone sees that 6993. Record. And that -- sticks in my forget late you know what the upside for the seem like that again I do think -- more realistic if you'd be fair measure of what this team might be is that 500 or -- team. Chemical -- -- -- if you look at it fairly. They're not they're not sixteen but they wait and they were trending up at the time that he -- they were beating contending team right to raise the White Sox in back to back series they were looking pretty strong bad. You know if you think about it at what position don't they have someone who's at least average if not above average. On the -- On this team right now -- out. Maybe you are yeah I was gonna -- left field -- -- -- is well above average -- a hitter you know best on the models because Saltalamacchia fan but I mean you know I understand what I don't know is there they're going to get average offense production pressure with Ross being a very good compliment they had right. Usually happily there yeah I guess. I know I mean I think that's fair but I mean it comes down to what we started tuchman in which he said first and it's it's cliche we do it all the time. The only position the only part of this team -- yet to a drastic change -- manager. They have a great bullpen today obvious in the lineup has changed one thing is really paralyze ST from September 2011 drive right now. Is the one thing that affects them I think they won't do what they never touched it starting pitcher. With -- months ago. Doubt they have time to do it I totally agree Ian made the point that they're stacking up about a potential trade chips are going to be able to address it. While also having financial flexibility to -- the free agent market. And they have made some upgrades to their defense which you know shouldn't go overlooked you know especially especially the right field. Right now I'm -- my actual. Pitching the actual pitchers everywhere they haven't done you know I realize what it's terrible if they're believers that they that they have a pretty talented. Group of hearsay to say before anything -- feel better defensively yeah pitchers but that's not a fair point I figured that brings us quickly before we have he's Mike Hazen. Red Sox just -- -- manager a couple of minutes averaging a victory -- about this week. I don't see. You know I I just I I don't see that Napoli thing is fine with me like the upside potential Napoli but I look at victory you know you know. 2012 to 201996333. Against rice. Knows that's not a mirage for him he struggles against right handed pitching and you know -- he's not been able to play against lefties gonna play thirteen million. Every single day -- thirteen million dollars forty million dollars almost for three years to be. In his right hand -- That that's a -- criticism I do wonder about the platoon splits that they're you know starting to stretch was Richard Lester he went exclusively. It -- -- well there was I think there was a hand injury that might have played in yeah so I you know I think to the Red Sox are probably done their background on him but they're pretty confident that he can be. That he can be a good player who's. You know there's enough impact in other areas of the game that even if the struggles persist. If he can get competitive at bats let's say 330 kind of league average on base percentage right again side right against right handed pitching. Then he's an above average player -- prime number seven hitter on the. Game thirteen -- a thirteen million a year for seven the -- -- and got out of it yet the opposite current ID you know I don't I have LB no doubt. The -- Tebow and all of them American League batters had a 731 open yes last. Victory there was a career 7310 yes that's right handers he's now. Yep but even if he's making him I'm just Jersey somewhere couple minutes with some fifteen weapon now. And I Boston. -- -- wondering if he gets a victim J. D. -- of years ago five years seventy million. How much of that was because of the defense he played right field they -- Fenway Park you need to have an elite defender at allied troops yet I OBP drew actually liked it today I was at the one that didinger -- a free agent today. 130 million this. But don't discount you know the fact that he his impact grows when you start to add in the stolen bases and stuff like that. But Torii Hunter was a thirteen million dollar a year guy to this result is horrible joint where are out. Quick break here Red Sox assistant general manager Mike easily joined Alex you know myself we get back the hot stove show in 90% of the its -- -- -- 937 WEI. -- hand Alex beer. Ian Browne it is Raiders Broncos in AFC west battle. Al pitcher in team that's ten points that by the way that's spread. Mean what's that was out of and that was your pick in your pick. The spread -- points. Joining us now in the AT&T hotline is the assistant manager of the Boston Red Sox Mike he's a Mike it's -- Alex and -- in Boston how -- you -- There are you that you escaped from the opryland hotel you've gone you know a lot of other. You know exited the -- here now pretty fresh airing in the first and 72 hours down the Fort Myers now. This is -- Mike is perfect the show as you well know is sponsored Al Speyer -- -- the Lee County border bureau tourism so you tell you looking around right now give us this picture. Blu sushi right my. It's beautiful yet blu sushi standing outside it's actually starting to rain on. Regret my decision to actually do the interview not -- out so girls are thought let's let's -- Yes I'm gonna run for cover probably at some point -- to construct or in any moment. But yeah no we're -- dowdy and take it go out -- I think tomorrow. Doug Alou told me about that some got a tent city that set up that -- jetBlue park you believe that particularly -- -- tomorrow. They go so you -- you're down there he obviously here in Nashville all this past week at least you know talk to us is as much as you -- -- -- -- if you -- -- But the three players seem like you have added to the team here. At the winter meetings. Yeah I mean look obviously nothing's done yet everything still pending physical. You know but we. You know -- is remarks. Off. Into the offseason we certainly at number poll the so evidenced by the end of the 2000 policies and most notably at number. And you know. You know we we sort of looked at the creator landscape and trading landscape and won't talk to you know leading figured start to get to start tomorrow. That we we wanted to natural things move a lot quicker on some fronts you know I think are some of the free agent goes -- position players. You know we targeted some guys that we felt really -- our ball club. We targeted two guys that from a make a point toughness standpoint from a still import on based guilt or chases the offensive ability flexibility. Versatility in some cases. You know we we don't started -- Starting to come together now there's still other areas of the club the other areas of the market that I haven't moved as quickly I think the pitching. The pitching side I think they'll have been really emerged as the scene could be you know from our perspective but things are always very complicated. Because you know you need other participants were free agency you know really not a participant. -- -- And -- and create what I'm street I think a pitcher -- really seemed to move all that much yet not a goal. Eighteen to waiting for some of the -- this -- or before they get in that some -- -- Or the other at all from together for you know the over. Sort of a consensus around here I think with people like Napoli. Some people myself included are not sold on victory know you look at thirteen million a year Mike for a guy who. You know you look at the numbers against. Right handed pitching his his is career on base percentage is 330 is a slugging is. Or two of the last threes have been even worse I guess my question do you look at victory no offensively. -- guys worth thirteen million dollars a year. -- look I think you know you can look at almost any situation that you know. You know it's it's. You know he'd -- kind of you know pick hold some of those things. You're looking and look we we can we can debate that. Everyone has direct their opinion and teaching to a differently I think when you get engaged in a free agent contact. Winning the winning -- is is the markets that are if you don't set the market in in particular. That particular area. You know -- you know get the player. And granted look. Everyone of us or does it set out on some of these endeavor to stock agents. And get the below market deal and now you know those are Smart choice and you know no brainer. That the that'll -- that but those present itself. I think sometimes you know nobody -- quicker on the moved slower. I think one of the situation where we find ourselves today. And in this particular offseason is you know we have a lot of things to do. We have a lot of holes so as evidenced by 93 losses. And yet you all those things one day. And sometimes the market move quicker and some guys some dug a little slower and other areas retreat I haven't really developed. And you you know look the markets the market sort by the belt to where you know the range that you're gonna have to go in on certain guys. Then you're short you want -- guy you know. And then. And then all actually if you you know -- this -- -- -- pout -- -- do that. Is that you starting to having another option going to be okay what are other options now -- -- get to acquire. We're gonna do to fill that hole where you got to go and you're gonna start to shrink the free agent all the the -- a lot of street gone. And you start -- to create a -- These are -- -- trades are relying on that now -- free agent pool. Your choices start to become not a clear for for the direction you wanted to and so you know. Sometimes you make that choice and I think you try to that the so core values and what you're trying to do. In creating context. You know if that from a year import from from. I'm not a lot but he and in and where we wanna be you know -- thirteen and then 201516. Beyond. That's -- he makes some of the -- you look look what happened we think you know. Like I said no deal have been done what went on Victorino but a player like that. You know we like we like the ability to bounce back you know we think there's some upside come into our ballpark. Scouted players at the player heavily. You know so we like a lot of -- to bring the table certainly there's a lot of strength that -- -- the table and you know other areas of the game. So we'll -- Mike I am curious about the the profile of the guys who you're nearing deals with a with the caveat -- of course none of these deals -- official. Obviously you know you and Ben are are at at your heart kind of player development people who like to see you know young talented -- You know with these signings you have -- you these signings or three guys who -- all in their thirties is there any concern. Combined with like adding the Ortiz is in the Gomes is that. You know of that age might be an issue for the roster is being constructed perhaps you know whether with the weather from the performance side or from the injury side. Well I mean look bad that's that's a liar and -- a two to accumulate depth. And and that -- more often than not is not their mid thirties. Sometimes it is. You know the rosters not complete by any stretch that initial local worked a little Lotta pieces that need to be added to the roster that will interest a little question. Secondarily. Know that area depth that we out. That's going to be on the future of the of the of the franchise so to speak -- everyday players are guys that are in the upper minor league now that are. That are just getting to be a minor league some that have been there but some that are just getting there. Not gonna -- The time I've been a year from now you know we're going to be staring at a completely different where you put somebody younger players. Some of those players are starting integrating -- two distinct those players could be here all next year and beyond. I think the second piece do it is when young players get to the big leagues they don't just out there and do it. Bryce Harper Mike trusted war for that matter will know. The other happened -- let you know -- pap. It didn't happen -- -- It is now -- your credit. You know it -- it it is apple -- a little bit in that first year when he first start a start. It that you can't always rely on the guys as good players as they are. To jump in and be able to perform at the level that they're gonna sustain throughout their career. Right away. So and so -- naturally become depth at the beginning while they're going to that transitional. And then they move onto the club as the everyday player and they're still gonna be a little window there where. You know we're looking at 2013. Putting a really good team and that answers all the players that we're targeting your end of that question. And then by the time. You start making that transition 1415. Here -- those other guys that are are couple minor league system on the got a required last summer long -- got well we got we drafted recently. And that's gonna become the core of the team moving. I'm with regard one thing that -- it's fascinated me you know with that with the you know within near with the agreements not final deal with Victorino. I'm how much did you view outfield defense has kind of their way in which you could make a considerable impact in improving. From what you had in 2012 to helping the pitching staff and when he thirteen. We have we're always looked at right field short -- -- the as a as an extremely difficult position -- -- probably the most typical right field and all of baseball who always talked about the concept of having. You know center fielder playing right field. Some wobble under so much ground between low left center in the in the right field foul line. That that we need guys out there that can really defend and play. You know it's that doesn't -- spent. On not having offered the players if you wanna do that will go to the best minor league defender you -- -- about right field as I'm in law. Without changed my mind you would have been great out there. Yes he can go figure your best -- we -- not ready to -- but -- in advance and look at the center and you'll stick him out there and and you know what we saw that even if -- September 2012 when -- go back there. You know I think adding quality Major League players albeit understand that there's going to be some you know some question on. You know what it takes to get that player and and what particular are there I will say that but you know the market is not wash. All the players and saying you know if you don't sign him on the free agent. In the creating context it is not you know out you don't talk of the -- for an upset or -- are relying on trades the goal. Good luck because what see if the actual -- become exorbitant you know make a trade because then start getting it to or not just what oak lane dollars you're talking about -- Players and those players again -- the future of the team that underneath player and you know when you have players of the upper minor league teams don't ask for the players at the lower moderately after the players the -- moderately. Because those players that they want. Clearly a closer look at least they're gonna happen out there and start relying -- -- when you have a lot of talent the -- minor league level could look at all over the last seven years. Some thought that the lower sometimes -- They go to the upper level player initiative what wanted to be -- for you know a lot of choices. Mike are things that strikes you mentioned phrases you know I feel like some of the moves he made an -- or some of the potential moves he made it. Not go to start the bills and surplus in certain areas and your team that might. Makes you more flexible the same make a trade to add to addressed the starting pitching all that you guys you know you guys -- quite another starting pitcher you feel it. Eventually to build enough chips were at where might make it easier trade for a pitcher. Yeah I mean I Obama part decision that is like from a from a from any specific one position airport does porn all you know where. Target guys are targeting guys that we like we're trying to go to those guys are about our ability certainly -- open up avenues in the future to look at things because injured now dealing from positions of strength as for the position of weakness. Not only to those positions week in -- but. You know that week if that were talking about it is your your depth consists of the guy and out out earlier the guy that maybe in the thirties at the Major League level he hurt. Relying on the guys that are playing pockets coming in and use ago. A talent on the roster and help you make the playoffs. Not that simple. Oh look we're at a position certain area that we do I. Nothing nothing it's certainly imminent on on a foreign right now we'll see how those sort of things emerge. I think the other thing you can look at the roster and solid areas of deserves it and flexibility within certain position right now and that sort. In the cases that we're talking about -- not relying on the minor league guys and early tomorrow if somebody were to get hurt I think. You know if its something were to happen at first base DH what you'll. Now we're a lot more covered guys -- probably take over a little role that we need be important that we still a lot of decisions to make the team. But that's an area of wouldn't -- what -- -- you'll. There's an area -- Red Sox assistant general manager Mike -- joins us here in the -- social Mike where you part of that -- now not a secret meeting with Josh Hamilton Monday it was just Farrell and -- I would not part of I was not a part of -- idea of any meeting I got to. I get it back in the in the room and received text messages from the media. Some of our beat writers every. None seemed brown horse year. Why reported back what Pedro launch what I had thought the everything that he repeatedly checked it on what was going on. You digest well it was -- work with Hamilton I guess are you know -- Hamilton type. You know obviously you read these reports now and I understand philosophically you're trying to move away from 56 of the -- do you agree with that. Is it when you look at Hamilton now for just for instance a guy play second that you would go three years in a go really really -- -- and the guys are still looking. I can't talk about an extra typically at the relate to I guess it -- -- here I think look I think I think all of that have already been reported. Should give a fairly clear. In some cases fairly clear messages the which direction we're moving I think you know they were staying engaged to a with options and all the other free agents. Or you're -- you you don't know how the market you're gonna develop you don't know you know. Sometimes you have a clear understanding of what order for some -- adult and we just being gays and all those things that are as the markets sort of mood and present itself. You know you'll have a choice -- -- to get any -- out. -- I think we believe heavily strongly that that wave of players coming up. Over the next two or three years. Starting next year living in the next two or three year is is the core of the team moving forward. You know we ought to at impact count anyway we can because 2013. -- important any other year. You know we like bench I mean -- certainly -- -- a little bit more disciplined intelligent about how we're executing on that strategy making sure that. You know we're we're where we're not sacrificing you -- a shorter long term. As the -- Operating. He is or are you survived he did Mike thanks for your time you got it right -- our. That's Mike -- Red Sox since general manager assistant. If it's. Quick break than Jonny Gomes and Red Sox open join us on the odds. The hot stove show Turkmen and Alex -- Ian -- in for rob Bradford and joining us now in the AT&T outline. Is is the new Red Sox outfielder Jonny Gomes Johnny good evening -- you. It. I'm not too bad I guess some of the start off with a question that I -- askew was. Expo what is is greasing what business you're -- -- -- you're discreet you -- Greece for team does that mean. -- -- -- Start to pick up a little bit more if our elected that -- -- like yeah you know little you know that. You know peace always I mean you know you have got to look you are every time -- thought -- it now you know the eight ball is not me. We're talking you know I mean how -- -- -- machine right well picking machine runs you know with a lot of batteries and a lot thicker. You know and have you ready to find yourself a lot of energy battery to buy yourself a machine greeted by yourself a degree you know that is it. Keep it moving parts going vs the in the park so. Andre -- can look into it you know all right away but it is you know consider myself. England down and dirty baseball player you appeared on my uniform consider an honor and that's dirty dirty. I guess we talk about -- so the cows come home. Stuff about -- doctors saw John -- Second round. Greased lightning where you -- so when the Red Sox came with this offer you know two years. And I guess my question would be a while other teams were in the mix are closer to go somewhere else and B why did you ultimately decide not to come the boss. Our -- We're desperate or what Boston aren't there they're so much accountability and bought into me. I'm probably starting you know from the ownership down the operational ventured into the managers and players. And now -- When they approached you mean so much accountability there they're not just signing you to they'll face obviously with the and facing off in. -- TV games international games the Indians. I mean you're you're you're an article in the air you know you're not trying to you know ignore these. So holes. With that being so I mean it's somewhat of an honor you know absolutely murders you know organization are off to approach you can't come. You know it's not their interest in you at this time he got -- and accountability. Of your act test yet be greatly in the Arctic. So long you know I came up in the elite elite obviously. Strategy doesn't want to let 2008 -- -- heated battle you know intently and then again there are so familiar with -- we are familiar with the law. Pound -- excited for the opportunity. Like -- them are comic guy who plays with chip on my shoulder you know 162 games you're 360. Is that the year where now I hear -- -- -- being you know Paxton -- media mentality at the Red Sox coming out. And summer. -- -- to be part of it. So that's kind of a fascinating thing in which your your -- -- do do these Red Sox to the 201213. Red Sox as you as you imagine them. Kind of compare with. You know with a surprising contenders that you've been on before in your career whether the rays or whether. Whether the reds or the athletics because it's it's kind of one usually think of the Red Sox in those terms. Given the given the different market size that you know they did in the different atmosphere surrounding this team's. Yeah you know OK you know started you know from the -- how -- there some movie or read our economy if the Red Sox. Are you know -- first place in June at the Red Sox are in first place attacker really don't. Surprise where you know history rich of that organization. The champions that are in the way you know back in the starting 2004. You know now return in the organization around. Our market sneak up on anybody. But I think with that being said acting you know some people might think there's going to be a little gray area you know maybe we'll bounce back area. And now you know I'm I'm I'm a believer that you know the time it now you know that on. You know there's no rebuilding. When -- Wear uniforms there's no gray area anyway. You know the time it now winning today. And move forward this year. -- Johnny -- you look at Florida getting more acquainted with that that monster 37 foot monster. Standing behind you there and he might reach out to Carly strokes here Jim Rice or guys who have. You know play that wall so well throughout their careers can ask them for for some pointers on how how to play. Yeah I mean absolutely I mean I'm you know you. And of the game stories game aren't -- -- law itself there were -- -- well. But I'm ironically. You know coming up and -- -- irrigation. -- Look blew through the system you know very quick other nagging hand down. That term -- it strictly for example in the terrible terrible -- exact. Dimensions. -- -- -- -- -- Obviously blew a terrible. But on I mean I got I got a bunch of games underneath outlaw. I'm just saying you know probably not but you know -- in line in you know ankles and not -- geometry major out exactly get but I'm opening day. But are there are some angle to worry about and down. I -- you know. The -- scared me. OK without law I've. Studied outlaw coming up I've played in outlaw in the big lead stand. I'm excited Q. You know become one with the monsters and a monster year. Just -- Miami -- in -- -- know that it's a new park from the when that was featured bull Durham but they still have like I hit a ball when a state type deal. -- -- Date yet you know ability you know -- -- -- -- those mistakes you -- Well I consider myself that is pretty eager pops a couple months and went over the ball well enough but don't count. But I got it happened I got a couple hypnotic. It's interesting to think about your career path a little bit because I believe that this is the first multi year deal of your career you know when you when you talk about dating back to the minor leagues. You didn't have a huge prospect profile on you and turn pro ball. You've kind of been this guy who's been known as a grinder. What is it is it different to you know was it just kind of a landmark in your career to have a team say Johnny we've you know based on what you've done in your career. We want to make that multi year you know. Investment in new -- and that's going to you know set up pretty well in a way that I think will be double in your career earnings have been to this point. Right you know. I get you know the money in play so well you know you're lucky enough to play this game and -- it for the money. On Iowa State money makes you more a person loss. I consider myself a caring person in the family person. Never been in trouble. I'm not really worried about that you know aren't that aren't yet are you feel you were really excited me. It did this crazy game I mean you know. We don't want anyone Arafat who don't want you know anyone that. You know where others opposite -- too much but I mean you know packing -- family go to spring training act I'm not going to see him leave in the -- and -- out and execute it let -- boxes you know three year old daughter she had you know 456. Different bed and here pal around. Look it's really nice to be honest. Set up the mark they have it set up myself in Boston. And now what that means that you are pretty and that Boston Red Sox have much on. And you know it can be a part of this history. Johnny you know you sit around this week and the rats are our national and make it something's happened -- -- is after you see them. In a close and an agreement for the Mike Napoli Shane Victorino. Doing Horrow is a really -- familiar with in how much is that the fire captain to get to spring training. What does you know absolutely you know but. But -- -- definitely been around the game you know longer now on you know have been involved lead where they -- are. -- market big market that team's checking gene -- gains. And you know just -- your -- you know doesn't mean you know you're -- you know -- -- so yeah I mean you know it ain't pretty. Doesn't really mean much you know so -- Personally. On the goal and actually I banner going actor I mean our I can be more happy about it signing so far. On the on the firm believer in the other clubs out out and you know who's who's back you have first your coworker or your best friend. Well you can compare those two in the one you know your outlook on where you're at each other's back. Mike Napoli will know victory you know on the great guys. You know. And when -- all been done you know you can look yourself in the near -- play or not the desert Warriors update. -- it from the stat probably not but been promised you know Parker senator actors and that he went into the immediately but guys doing that. You know he can he can be wrong he can be in it for the long out there and. Which I appreciate it thanks for your time in good luck in the offseason. Our -- appreciate not sure as -- -- so. Sounds great thanks -- appreciated as Jonny Gomes -- Red Sox all through joining us in the AT&T -- guys couple minutes here before we give weight to NFL football. -- 8 o'clock Broncos. And Raiders any job I guess first and he's interview free -- -- guys that that stands out. Well I think they -- they candor about the fact that yes they -- they remain engaged with Hamilton I think there's obviously -- -- its eye opening because that has a lot of implications for. For the the could different directions that their roster building. I can still take Ivan. I Soviet that certainly stands out along with the underscoring of you know of how much they value his score I really think. They they're in this they're in this weird place where they feel like they've built a team that's so close to maybe being able to contend but not one to push too hard. Because of what they can have beyond the 2013 season. With regards to their prospect pool it's it's a really interesting in delicate balancing act if they've got going on that I find really interest right now -- No question for me. You know take away from that was -- -- animal kingdom obviously engaged does it mean you know one thing it could mean the other thing he said they're still talking to me if you can get -- For three years or whatever the prices mean that is a legitimate obvious -- Any package Ellsbury and whoever else now all of the sudden. Yeah different you know you gave yourself a big time pitcher's arms I just think there are a lot of options right now. And I think that it Josh Hamilton idol because I -- and eventually he's gonna wind up somewhere else. Summer's -- -- before you -- and no questions the fact that there -- pursuing airmen at its just at the being so aggressive you know of him he could look at this is the bridge here at the same time. They're trying to make it in a competitive team and I wanna just you know good again the bridge here is that is that term that we do used loosely but. It does the point when it was -- originally by Theo the point of the bridge there was not that -- it was a year where they were giving up. But instead one where they were trying to build a contender. That didn't just strip them of their prospects which is you know the real danger zone which is what they kind of did. The type bridge year was what they did entering 2011 and gave up. The prospects for Adrian Gonzales. Right now we're really kind of pushing in that direction by. Yeah it's it's an interesting roster construction that there in the middle of him to. You know I I do think that that this doing take away from from some of what he's saying is look we were deficient in a ton of areas in 2012. James clearly it was miserable for those people on the front office to what September of 2012. And so you know kind of steadily they're moving to address them. In different ways and by his own admission that they still haven't moved on the pitching front -- the starting. I was gonna ask and I do wonder you know how do they get that Sosa so they keep Ellsbury for arguments sake they don't trade him. How did they bring in the guy forget. Forget these fringe guys does that does doing Gretzky they need the guy who. Understood you out before the show when you look at him in the season ends of his daddy you're stunned that he saw you want a guy you think you can leave alone -- -- three starter. Where to start how they get. Tough question I mean there there are a couple of options there remain on the free agent market it'll be interesting to see how interest in how interested they get in Anibal Sanchez if if they don't sign Hamilton because I don't see those two guys is. I don't see how you can afford both of them by right if Hamilton if -- Sanchez's available but -- for years a twenty to 31 year old then that becomes kind of interesting given his stuff and that he's been pretty healthy over the last few years. Dempster you know he's still gonna be out there are and he has a reasonably consistent performance track yeah Brandon McCarthy. Yeah that's a good one you know I look at assistant with with Alex earlier I mean anyone mention the -- actually -- -- arm in the bullpen help you know ethnic maybe as a starter at that they're trying to make a trade for right now. -- somebody we thought last year we didn't see Lleyton is moving the week after the winner meetings but then he moved it was a huge haul for the Padres that it took -- in -- -- -- -- -- -- direct contrast to use talking about organizationally -- -- -- -- the difference with a guy like a -- -- then it's a long -- -- if you -- right if you have a young -- They just wasn't even ready for arbitration yet -- got four years of control of basically an -- You know for that you start to -- you know a premium if you have teams willing to go below that top top surface at some point you -- to give up. Some of the prospects you like and for the Red Sox the good thing for them. Is that they have some starting pitchers have taken part with. Whoever pretty good amount of value because they have other really good starting pitching prospects to fill in us is we're back here a week from today it's a means to be yours well and after that I just keep popping out. Yeah you know there's no chance Bradford passport worked on the way back at seems like been expressed to where I guess my question would be is Josh Hamilton beside that we. Yes he will I think you know. I think he will be either Texas or Seattle I think what's number going to be years and dollars. We want to back in Texas for your DO. Over -- after. Yeah I'd say I'd say the 100 shop plateau would be Goodwin and it was obvious to me here on Tuesday Texas is the fact that. -- waiting around program wants to see what they do with cranky. This exhaust dotted with them beef before it goes and that's the other guys Greg talked to him because it's seems obvious he's not going to be here now -- is again a -- -- -- Dodgers. I think he's gonna because I think that -- I had no. That's the thing is Texas I think that -- -- such a good fit for him and he cares about the shape of the organization he'd like an organization with Nolan Ryan at the top of it. They don't thank you Alex Ian is always in their careers and next week like -- -- Red Sox assistant general manager and Jonny Gomes Red Sox -- were kind enough to join us. Hot stove show in 93 several back a week from tonight at 7 o'clock now we give way you AFC west -- auction Peyton Manning in the Broncos against the Oakland Raiders.

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