Oct 5, 2012|
Red Sox President & CEO Larry Lucchino joined D&C to discuss the decision to fire Bobby Valentine and why it didn't work in Boston for him. He talks to the boys about if Bobby V was able to be himself in Boston, will the process be different this time around in deciding the Sox next manager, and when they are hoping to have a decision for manager. Larry also mentions what the Sox need to do to make the team better in the offseason, how much input players will have in the next manager will be, does he regret not bringing back Terry Francona, and if a retread manger like Joe Torre might be a direction the Sox might want to go.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
Welcome back. -- three Dennis and -- about to be joined by the president and CEO of Boston Red Sox Larry -- he's tired of doing interviews yet -- turn on my microwave last night there was Larry and been doing another interview that was ought to and then has little round tables with -- each media -- yeah attorneys feels like he's repeating themselves at this point Larry joins us on the AT&T hotline AT&T -- LT -- via one -- interview in -- Larry more. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- good stuff that you don't know anyone else. We chose to do -- do the it's press availability are yesterday instead of a gigantic step press conference. For a couple of reasons one this week to week we did it that way. With after -- departure. And then we get a full scale. Big press conference after. -- departure. And there are -- that may be the want. And it would get seduced out of more quickly to the we issued at least did and it we we -- -- meetings with -- -- So it I think on balance it provided for an. More in depth coverage. And aborted because of mob mentality that can sometimes develop but he -- giant Prescott. Did the release about first -- Twitter Kamal first and a Twitter came -- first is that to your knowledge the first time in the history of Major League Baseball that a manager was replaced on Twitter. You know I think and much more we certainly do use. Social media us to get tips -- information about my sense is that that Twitter and they've release went out at saint. And time OK all right. They specifically how does -- breakfast meeting at your house unfold. When the purpose is to replace the manager is breakfasts served -- who breaks the ice is there any chit -- and who breaks -- -- to -- and do you have brown sugar for the oak many who. We actually away it was not not a breakfast meeting -- we're scheduled to meet its. At around eleven. And we ended up beating around. A level of Thirtysomething -- -- Intermediate for about ninety minutes -- The two hours. Yeah did open -- will be able to get food of course they can invite people cry out of it that America -- can -- people -- houses -- are some food. Seriously institute test case so at this breakfast. And it's arguably say he it was really a statement from Ben about the. The decision. That had just in Dayton and. And then who we have Bobby. Took it would. It's very grace. And professionalism -- state. The misfortune of being involved in these kinds of decisions sometimes -- The thirty years in baseball and yeah he was. English exceptional. In his. Grace and constructive comments. He knows walking in what's going to transpire in that meeting I suspect as he say anything to break the guys who say don't worry about birdies say something goofy or or how does that all at the moment is that not. It's an awkward moment is it not. It is an upper Albany he is he's been at my house. Before. Certain and different circumstances. And they distance from the door to the living room as is pretty short. And so we reported sit down and. And and begin rather quickly so. As to whether he had anticipated what was going to happen. It had to speak -- we can ask him that that that that question. But he certainly. As -- -- minute you know accepted the decision with. With grace and and -- recognition. Larry again the choice of Bobby kind of came out of the blue but eventually. Come by February we all kind of bought into what I saw what you were taken and I liked and I was gonna shake things up and make people uncomfortable and it seemed like a good antidote to what was ailing you. I'm where did it go wrong what what it was why was he not the guy in what way it was not the guy you thought you were getting. Well. I find it up awkward probably a little inappropriate to. Do go into. Who shot John what went right what went wrong. Like it would easier to do it to. To discuss is the record. Oh we if we were 93 and 69 instead of 6993. We would not be having this conversation. The -- in a results oriented business and -- results did not occur we have high levels of expectation here. In Boston and I think rightfully so. And we did not perform and Bobby understood it in those terms he basically did you know my job is to. Is to put together a would be -- Two deal with the problems that emerged during the course of a tumultuous season. And ensure it is team wins as is expected due in that didn't happen and so he was. Recognizes that the bottom line it was indeed the bottom line. Was was was he allowed to be the Bobby -- that we thought I suspect you thought or was he ham strung in some ways organizationally and in your estimation. I think it was it was. Bobby he had he wanted to be. Little -- a little careful. At the beginning because he stepped in the such -- A difficult situation song via historic collapse. Last September. And not that may have. And urged him to be a little more. Careful because the situation was so volatile. But does I -- marquee I believe she felt that he had. Our support and from the beginning and and and throughout. We made clear I think both publicly and privately. Did win situation. This got a question that we were -- deal with the manager issue. At the conclusion of the season and not until the conclusion of the season. So. You know it's. It's from our point of view he's ahead by -- my support certainly I was early advocates forum. As a last last offseason and as C does -- at least the manager's office today -- remained a yet. Supporter is someone who cease. -- those perfect things and Bobby Valentine both personally and professionally. You said just a few minutes ago you don't wanna get into discussing who shot John is the owner okay. Something happened with a bigger policy okay we'll see admonished for a liberating a player because if he wasn't Larry should set the record -- because that's gonna become. In legendary around here that he got on a player in spring training and the owners said. We don't do that around here. -- he was not a punishment was admonished by the players that as far as you know palms. The bad I can't speak to him entirely you know what happened that is if some players thought it was it appropriate to or out there. You know 26 or seven other players around them some may have thought it was -- An unusual way to deal that the -- whole issue was signal to the world at approximately Bobby Campbell does just fine. You said you were an advocate at the beginning of the process that would Bobby Valentine and and still are today will the process and finding the next guy be the same as ten months ago Larry. Although it appears it'll be a little different. In a couple of waste first they won't be a Ben Carrington maiden voyage. It was you he became. General manager in the first they had to do was go out conducted a search. Defined in the field manager. So he's and he said the experience of last year that's different. Secondly the process is starting much earlier. Well we we yeah. Made the decision probably at the conclusion of the season in and not even the general manager at this time last year. So. He he will have a a running start of the process. But there will leave basic similarities to that is it will be spearheading its. That probably will be. Earlier. Input as to the. Possible candidates as opposed to world. Adding main story as the process goes -- we'll try to assess -- out early on. And and were a couple of most of the alternative possibilities. Both social we will be able to step aside for you guys today would you ask me the next question. That -- that day at a time of the day when Libyan new manager place. Well we're not gonna to wanted to set a time that they -- benefit over and over. That to find the right person is more important -- And having rapid process and I couldn't agree more. But don't we do think that. There are some things. That need to be done besides this is is not the oh lead changes can be made to subsidies and they're -- changes that that will be -- Begun them was city make it trade with the doctors with the addition of Jason Varitek. With the supplement the ought to our evaluation process was eighty pains. Now to managerial change that -- them. Coaching changes. And -- -- host of changes in late in the piece of new personnel we we believe. We have a core of good players. Courts really positive exciting hard nosed players that are fans didn't. Can embrace and talking about Dustin Pedroia and Jacoby goes there and that David Ortiz and will middle books and I could go on and on. But there's a core of good players there. And and but we've got this supplement with that he used free agency could trade we've got to do we can't. To add to this seems to make it chalker and and that so make it healthier. Larry there is a widely -- story and I don't know perhaps it's apocryphal. That the players were told back in October that. The Red Sox ownership and management would not be hiring a manager such as Bobby Valentine. And when he was hired many of those believe they've been sold a bill of goods or at least renege on that promise. -- is that true and -- In this time around will the players have any input as to who. Will be selected. Is there on the second question. But we will talk to our players. Of course some more until we get from players on and on things the better. But they do not and have a vote in this process this is not a referendum most players. Who will tell us so. Who the next manager should be that I think is is misguided. -- it's the first question I have no personal knowledge of that I have heard the same story. That done that are are. Dutch DO. -- seen. Believe it was. They think that's sort of -- Maybe that made that comment. While he was here as soon as general manager. But of course the decision was made. Later than that have to -- -- was gone. So -- I don't know. If he indeed did -- something like that or not to -- you probably have to ask him that was a picture is distorted view that the time. Up close is your personal relation. Ship with Paul beast and an easy -- reasonable man when it comes to things that from -- compensation. I've poppies and is a different mind. Best friends in the game and these are reasonable and but. I'm not giving -- go anywhere near any question. Regarding. And managerial search and Andy at trial it is. Think it's appropriate I would say it's going to be. -- wide ranging search. We've had our eyes so opened a bit tasted the -- potential candidates by the experiences in Chicago. Saint Louis this year -- The successes. The young man right there were not a Major League -- Experienced managers. Previously. So there will be a year broad based search. That will be conducted. What some. Expedition but where not to attract immediate specific deadlines. -- nick kfar rise tonight today that he's hearing he's been told by a Major League source that Joseph Torre is interest and get back in the managing game Larry -- and is connected as anyone of you heard that giving. Torre will someday return of the dugout. I have not heard that there. That number four. What is your opinion on. It's a harsh term but retreads I just made this point that perhaps the three best managerial job -- this year were all retreads in. -- and Davey Johnson Buck Showalter Bob Melvin and if you have hired a guy like that not you but anybody hired a guy like that the fans probably would roll their eyes. -- John -- the same Bob Melvin and they and they all three did amazing jobs this year. Stated. I agree you. And -- to stay in the news the fan reaction to -- because oftentimes reached. -- managerial strategy callebs. Is someone who is coming off a lack of success. But there I need and -- and we Don. Both ways over the years you know and we are the US -- as general manager. He was. Not quite 29 years old and in I think it was out of the box surprise. Choice. Or -- I've -- no previous. General manager experience. When we hired Terry Francona. And before 2004 season. And he was do you return a preacher that it is been a manager in Philadelphia and had not had and. Much of the way -- there. He proved to be the right person at the right time. So I think you've got to be just can't treat them all the same they're better they're Joseph Torre you register at Torrey. He was actually successful managers before it got to the -- today. -- pick of the reaction when you hire a guy he can't expect. In a coronation the day -- because all the above including Tori. Room perhaps the best measure of our time. When he was hired in New -- all kinds impact page headlines demeaning him and and to meeting the choice I think it was clueless Joseph was the back page. Of the poster there are those power and what do you think the reaction was without Melvin and local just a guy you know retread the Billy -- could control Davey Johnson -- in mid season in Washington was like. Pay no one else around can you take over the team for a little while and and went on -- so you can expect. You know balloons fall from the sealant on the day you hire a guy -- You ever was pretty excited when they hired talent to at least we all got hooked in and how'd that work out that turned out to be a colossal blunder. Well. It's just it's. It turned out by the way the it is about lack of success that we endured during this terrible 2012 season. Is -- what is has a responsibility that's shared by a lot of us. Including yours truly. Including the bench Harrington and baseball operations department and including. Jack and Tom Warner. Our present our ownership. There was a there was there. -- judgments and and problems that develop justice. Plenty of account ability -- depressed around. And learn to follow up on that might follow up question I know you guys are all about self evaluation and I'm wondering as this season of agony I think that's with your term you used yesterday on unfolded before you. Did you ever have even for a fleeting moment the thought perhaps kept privately maybe we messed up and should have kept Terry Francona around maybe we should not let Terry Francona ago. Well I don't wanna open albeit old issues except to say that. -- would it was not an option he told us he was. Not. Prepared to manage again in 2012. And we do we took him and his words there was. Alternative was never considered export. Our Larry thanks for the conversation he. You did have one more interviewing you we appreciate the time this morning we'll talk to -- the road a lot of. Stuff going on this offseason. We're determined to do. If this thing is broken as indeed it is we're determined to to make it right get that success we've had our first -- it. So talk to -- -- have a good week Larry you know Dennis and Callahan on AT&T hotline AT&T four GL TE was speeds up to ten times back to the three GAT and T. Greens and that's why it takes discipline because if they think it's the right guy even though people in general -- even bull at the choices -- The way in on the did what coach -- a lot like nobody say right exactly that's exactly it's a great example or Terry Francona he a better example of a losing record Philly. Couldn't handle you know the pressure in a big market like Philly. Was a retread was not in on the most charismatic guy. He had a great round -- arguably the best measure of -- hand down on the other hand was hot stuff. You know was sexy they're not sexy -- have succeeded. If they hire Gene -- great example but I mean honestly any of the above. People going to be -- -- -- but you have to be able to do what they want a splash but you can't get as you probably can't get a splash I think she. -- or do you -- I think the only buzz and this is an or a retread the only buzz that you get from -- hire if if you if you -- only a Brad -- for people with their glow in the misty -- I guess I. Samberg will -- -- bus 'cause he was such a good player yes but for the most part -- names on this list do nothing for you and they're not gonna give great press conference in the -- Bill Parcells and taken over and just hit it just energizing a whole fan base. That's not what you're looking for you look for a guy who's -- do the job in August and September. And until then you just have to be patient and we're not really good -- patience over. No we're not and there's a nice compensate piece in the Boston Herald today that -- a number of the managerial candidates and I'm sort of surprised when I went through this thing and you see the names of Bill Miller and Sandy Alomar junior and Tim Bogart and Brad Ausmus and Tim -- in the news he Ryan Sandberg all John Ferrell as well -- most. Ryan Sandberg is the problem he's 53 years of age everybody else I named exceptional Brad Mills is younger than Bryant's. Tony Pena on that list is not honestly could not be one of those guys the first day gets people excited yes and probably in August would fail miserably human -- may be but -- we -- -- -- that higher -- Oh man I'm -- Ponzi scheme a piece. I just retreated color -- -- -- nausea I just retreated bush between Jon -- -- because he's just tweeted that yeah. Palm Beach post reporting owner Jeffrey Loria is getting pressure from top baseball executives in the organization to fire Rossi. Policy it's weird to only the occasional all or acting at all simulate that that date you'd rather have aussies than wall Beckman. -- policy. And this -- If you don't work for me just second -- to -- Wally back everyone always mentions Larry bowl when teams get complacent media would normally -- and the younger. And good. Significantly as a manager Cecil you could be 92 timeout fault lines -- we'll talk -- 6177797937. Will be right back. Pictures Jesus Christ 102021. And one.