Jun 22, 2012|
Segment #2 - Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling came on D and C to publicly address his failed video game venture and respond to fans and critics alike. Schilling addressed who he thinks is to blame, how everything went down from his point of view, to seperate fact from fiction and whether or not he is a hypocrite who has gone against his conservative views.
Transcript - will not be 100% accurate
Welcome back Dennis and Callahan on a free form Friday Curt Schilling in studio with us and Kelly Campbell the fault lines like you talked to -- if you so choose 6177790852. -- 3888525. Series repeat. -- loan guarantees curt did the the lore of the loan guarantees from Rhode Island in anyway quench your thirst for seeking out venture capital Manama. -- now I -- that that was part of loan guarantee the semifinal in the 70 absolutely I mean I had put at that point about thirty million dollars of my own money into the company. And we were looking for -- we were looking for investment and and when they approached us and talked about the steal I mean obviously. It was incredibly attractive because we would have the state as a partner news initially we have him as a partner. And and there are I mean this is one of the private venture hubs of world Boston New England area and California. An and in initially that looked like it would be a it's a huge boon because. We would have them in our corner and working with us and in import and and it it just never ever materialized I mean that the you know when we initially signed the deal. You know the CDC borders is I think at twelve member board. And the governor can turn over half of support so we knew that that some of the board would be moving and out. Com which is why we we made sure up from when we when he signed the deal couple years ago. We told them you know they were in first position for all the debt in the senior positions or call. And we made it clear to them at some point we're gonna come back to business because America now there's no public from the world's gonna sign in order bastards points subordinate debt. -- and that was a that was a very easy conversation I haven't actually and we went back have a commerce -- last year. They come and and them you know those hurdles we saw at the outset but we always envisioned being able to pass them -- -- go to -- what makes you go to Rhode Island they call you Buren Maine and everything's you're happy and everything's working out. You have somebody seeking no one -- we will it was a conversation that I had with. Governor court's hearing and and and event for the band of Brothers. We we were discussing I was talking in my company and -- looking for for private funding and they were looking to create jobs and we mean it was a power seats in the we have in and we just rolled off of that night in and department a couple of people on and it just it just came out and and we tried to put together a deal that would work. It would -- create jobs and be. Help the company with with samples would be just payroll and development hand them and that's where we ended up it's very specific was there a specific person or group of people in charge of burn rate and did they not do their job well. Well you know listen I YE IE are made a lot of mistakes and and I think one of the mistakes is a company that we made. You -- Beirut the two. Approaches to this week first subtle than there -- mile. Owns -- we have to meet to get the money to drawdown on the money. They didn't wanna be in the business of software development so we didn't wanna titles milestones to the product achieving specific places because they didn't have expertise on stopped. On -- we did was we do the logical step was to -- them to job creation. In hindsight that was a big mistake because we ended up putting together a staff rampant how to stripping a far too fast. And basically. The money they were investing in the company. We weren't allowed to use as we need to use it's about we had to use of the creek and paid jobs we got too big to fast and you know looking back on -- that was that was probably one on the mistakes. That was made read from the outset and. As far as -- goes. Was it -- them obviously was against it. So was it like vindication why did he want to him did he do you think in a way was stand ups and see I told you so he dead. He and you can I mean I'm not make an abuse in the second read over the last sixty -- his comment mean -- that I was that wanted to -- imports was again. This was our partner. -- your partner in and there was not you know our first game was a failure. This is not a this is these are his -- right and true. We we we we have that story -- one day and in the same story where he says the games of failure of an analyst. Of the industry video game industry analyst saying it was a success. Electronic arts actually put a quote out in rebuttal to his comment because these base in the senate enough we actually now need common extra people understand that's not the truth. And and so it as an investor from looking at a potential partnership of this company. Bit bit this senior debtor which is the state and the biggest partner is the is downplaying the partnership and downplaying the company two -- a such a place that. I've got to be concerned about. Becoming partners without if you if you were publicly held company stop it knows. Why what did it and at what it would have been something somebody coming I would imagine you're have been able take action against somebody saying something like that do you think he'll run on this is that is motivational this is -- I told you so absolutely. And -- this is absolutely -- been here and accompaniment or so and you know just. That's okay. -- Good morning good morning everyone and good morning Kurt Warner. I'm I'm interested in finding out if your relationship with epic game. Is really where the intellectual property that the people for an -- for is going to end up being. And then now. Right Gloria I I don't have the answer to that when we filed chapter seven the trustee that was appointed to oversee that is it is it's my understanding. That they are income total control over every asset that the company owns and controls and so all of the technology it was created and proprietary in Baltimore all of the IT and property is freedom province is now is in the -- the hands of atrocity. 22. To go out and trying to -- to recover money for the state -- francs in Somerville Franken actual Curt Schilling. I -- I'm just curious about the time line you were you were talking about governor -- making those comments on Monday that basically ruined everything made it the day I think it would really. You know. Help people take kind of be in your court if you talk a little bit more about who you're meeting with on Tuesday. And and where this money was going to have come from you know if you're so close to. Either getting the State's film tax credits or the big windfall. Hulu where was this money coming. You know what I view it is it's Apollo well known publisher. And I. I don't know that that it would be okay for me to mention their name. I would imagine have something to happen and -- -- -- to come on it would amounted. But it was a publisher and a one of one of the probably 45 biggest publishers in the world not not the original public was not electronic arts wasn't drizzle calls from the first game. I'm but it was who was one of them for -- biggest publishers otherwise. And then when I'm curious to it did -- from report that use admit payroll before that -- you do admit. Hero and -- -- -- -- right so that was the comment was made on Monday the fourteenth I believe from my from -- -- was money in fourteen program that dates. Four to the fifteenth and the following that that next morning we we we payroll was the fifteenth and we were in discussions that -- that that that publishing deal had nothing to do with us in the making or not making payroll. That policy deal was a deal that would end up making the Baltimore studio in neutral bar we knew it would cover the costs of -- the next three years. Which reduce the burn rate overall for the company. Beat beat beat beat payroll piece was all -- and I -- the taxpayer to a tweet about a month part of mid April. We were in the final stage and processes -- of finalizing and finishing in and we assume would be done within a week of June mid April. And then. We got the default letter. Which was another. Kind of a stunning incident we -- they knew a week before that bit that was we were not gonna be make we had a meeting. And we told them you don't pass despite. As our partner we we you know what we here's where we are. And we made a mistake we didn't specifically asked them to give us an extension. And we just assume based on a conversation that they understood we will be able to make this payment on the first. But in sometime in the next thirty to 45 days we should be comfortably able to make that is that when the check. Allegedly. You know that was actually so so what happened was the first came in Lance. And and the fourth which was a Friday of that that may -- We got a default. Which completely blind -- us. And the default under triggered a lot of other things we revenge immediately ineligible for tax credits and all of this other stuff. We were actually confused as to what we got it because again this is our partner. And we're trying to work together to make the company's successful they had every right issue that in the amendment that we never argued that that we just. Assume based on the conversation that they had your best interest -- absolutely and so. Well we ended up having multiple discussions they came back and they came to the table and you know we have a litany females and where we made multiple agreements in different places they came back wanted to equity. They wanted other things in and a week we acquiesced everything and we have an -- multiple times in the in the fraudulent checks the pop up and and and that was probably. That's should have been the final red light -- somebody is doing something very evil -- And that whole story was. We had to make the default and and they. And we have had a couple special meetings with the DC united told them that I couldn't they kept just say it ended for awhile ago that they were playing in a poker and they believe I have money. And just wasn't thinking in the company and -- -- can't do that. And the next night will we did was we had an extra step up and off for the money based on the state giving tax credits and we had our CFO. Cohort the DC with a one point 25 million dollar check he announced we got -- this -- does not have sufficient funds. When these certification is it all -- And the money that they have the virus -- -- wired money to our count at that point it's -- will be covered we will give it to you. Date we literally had people on the phone we had council we have our our the buyer seller and our our people on the phone. And we -- -- it was it was it does this was the last thing we have to have the money and by the wire that day this was mr. panic because now it was really -- -- -- give the money. And the person Brooke CDC on the phone. This on the phone personal conversation and fifty it's motivational -- saying that we -- issued a fraudulent -- We never should never have to detect any. Our CFO came back to the company with a check in his hand and told us exactly what it happened -- and that's that was just that was when it's certain standards were real and and and I started to realize that there was something. Not good going on that more than a few people didn't have your best -- absolutely an end and at that point now now it's a little bit of panic because now there that are. They're making comments and and statements about us that we we had committed basically checked for and and that was not the case and that story comes out and then it's that we you know we -- we default on the -- we tried to actual fraudulent check neither of we did default on payment group but everybody involved knew that that was going to happen. And we didn't issue anybody fraudulent check and so now it's like. I say something publicly because that one of the things that happened is I've been. You know on and sadly quiet for for two months which is not how I made -- budget. Short of being able to us to talk through things and I couldn't do this and sound bites and and columnist Susan and there were small what's going on in this was changing every thirty minutes and most importantly to me was my team and their families were being blind side -- something that was going to be a life changing things are -- hardworking honest -- Like changing will take me to my next question we gonna take a brief sum up the -- on directly -- -- Joshua Justin Donna John we'll get to all -- your questions for commercially I don't know how this has changed your life will be right back.