Dice-K Talk

We will be all about today trying to figure out what's wrong with -- pair of Red Sox pitchers. A conversation of course commenced yesterday actually before that with John Smoltz struggles on the mound at to -- that I -- Leo lives only. Is former pitching coach would join us I believe during the 8 o'clock hour to give his analysis. From a distance. And the other pitcher that we didn't even know we were going to analyze as to what the problem is it's kind of helping us out with his old theory that of course would be. Third your man Daisuke Matsuzaka who is some working out apparently tirelessly in Fort Myers. While you should do remote from the just you may be able and that Dice-K is it an interpreter via anonymous you -- -- bits that is the lines are sure the restaurants. Mr. graphical -- -- kept the currency and Somalia is like humidity for below. It's that it. Alex. Mere writes on WEEI dot com and I really suggest you take a look at this because it's the very very interesting. Not take on what's wrong with Dice-K and as you listen to this thing play itself out. Yet to make up year old mine as to whether this is Dice-K offering up excuses. For his poor performance and laying blame on the Red Sox which he clearly does or. Is there any veracity is thirty truth. To what is he saying about why he struggled in his third year with the Boston Red Sox in a nutshell Alex your rights and W eEye dot com. I -- -- to sockets suggests that his effectiveness. And health. Are being negatively impacted by the training techniques of the Boston Red Sox he blamed his current predicament on the club's inability to account. For the needs of Japanese pitchers Andy suggested that he is ready to take a stand. Against the ball club. In an effort to return to the practices that he fall before coming to Major League Baseball from Japan. Now the numbers are you know pretty clear out one in 5843. ERA opponents hitting 378 a horrible third season for Daisuke. Course the Red Sox -- in the World Baseball Classic as to lie on much of this. Dice-K blamed the season on the throwing program. And the training techniques the Red Sox outline for him once he came to the US this is a quote from Daisuke as he spoke to -- a Japanese newspaper. If I am forced to continue to train in this environment I made no longer be able to pitch like I did in Japan. He is also quoted as saying in the article the only reason I managed to win games during my first and second years with the Red Sox. Was because I used the savings of the shoulder. I've built up in Japan. Since like into the majors I could not trained in my own way so now I've lost all of that savings and -- the Sloc also laments the fact. The Red Sox do not permit him to practice. Not that called me he familiar that you have your -- little to do. I mean it does that. Mean this. That and puppetry puppetry has operated I think that's what it is a little different it's it's energy we let practices that he's happier. It just some. Happy talk today I love this. It's marathon training session -- throwing sessions we start just throwing red are going to throw it sucks don't allow him -- to practice marathon training sessions. Before he wasn't able to maintain his strength that's right. -- I -- the relief is a cultural divide that doesn't seem like excellence. Technique to perhaps the salient point in the whole article Daisuke articulates his belief. The people of different ethnic racial and or national origin have physiological traits that require distinct training programs. He has periods have been treated with skepticism and perhaps even discomfort in this country. Recently when he mentioned physical differences between race races. Red Sox team officials were baffled. In a passage in the article that appears represented Daisuke is recollection of a conversation one of them meeting Red Sox front office people. Responded to -- cracked voice if by ever recognized such a thing. I'd be severely bashed by the media as being a racist element in the Romans is right for that here and that's -- no no. I mean I makes a good point you can't bring compensate. There's these theological differences Japanese guys have to -- different than American -- via. The Sox did not hear much in the caucus believe that the WBZ was blameless for his lack of strength the team believes it was it's quality diminished quality stuff. Was a direct result of inadequate strengthening and conditioning leading to the WBZ not to mention the fact that it's not point out. He was heavier and at a lower percentage of lean muscle when he showed up at spring training this year. Any points out -- it's hard to blame not being in shape and Brad -- he's holding up okay yeah you know I mean there's a lot of guys want -- great physical condition. Who are our solid pitchers. Then that probably do their there in the room. Arm strength stuff that just don't know run. Run along the Charles River for ten miles. He supports the sudden this is a good point has until now many Japanese players have joined the majors. But they usually only last for two or three years a -- from L experience. This was not due to their individual abilities but because of the difference in training methods. So he's got some evidence to back support his case. Most of these guys come over whether it's you know -- around who were. Noble normal I guess no more would be an exception more than the rule -- most of them don't last in on. -- and what for what -- reason they do not hold up. Now when I first read this list and while kind of -- -- some cheap shots at the Red Sox inventing excuses laying the blame of the Red Sox reflector performance this year. And when you think about it we know about major league baseball players in general but maybe pictures even more so. There's a psychological. Component comfort component we had this discussion about. You know Papelbon coming into the game was not a save situations of psychologically. He's just a little off but isn't quite as focused and -- attuned to what he needs to be doing stopping all climbers that -- -- it's and so I look at this while my first reaction was to say. -- -- shut up suck it up the Red Sox pitching program are strengthening and conditioning program has has has. Helped a lot of players extender careers and be very very good long record time why would you be any different the fact is that maybe it's not it's logical piece like a lot -- -- -- -- people that could be right but at least if he's being told by the Red Sox. This is how we do it here and this is how -- going to do it. Immediately these fragile psychological baseball guys. And I'm sure there is no different in Japan and they are over here want to are treated like kings and gods so what what what oh this is out of my comfort to the -- doing this was not the foundation of my success when I was in Japan. -- bad things on my right hand me your picture where. Europe pitching pitched once every five days or excuse. The example you know it's an at all when you laid out of bed at night. Do you not feel things in your shoulder. And -- wonder about the -- are now a level of paranoia. In insecurity. We all do what I mean and you have to play go to -- ago that it -- You know admire what do elbows when you wonder if something is breaking down. They must do that times I was right because that's the livelihood. They must on their quiet moments. So there ago everything okay in the air and -- probably -- and that it's obviously not okay he's not pitching well he's and the were stripped of his career he's taken something isn't right YY. And in his mind. It can't be tests whatever his -- -- as the -- The pro the pro -- like somewhere else in the in his mind it's the training regiment. Did -- not follow the training regiment the previous two years and of the WBZ got in the way that yes yes. But did he follow it or did he stick with -- -- Follow the restless wanted to him to do but because of all of the years of all of the -- building up what he called it a savings in my shoulder with -- all the trading that I did in Japan. That held me that together in the first two years now in the third year would not being allowed to train the way I wanna train. Those savings. Audio weird translation of that word are now gone and I'm and I'm in effect when you point. And it's a good point psychological factor here if -- a Red Sox at what point to say okay which one right now. Do what you want I absolutely would right now because what it puts the onus on him. I mean Alicia think that he's -- real damage. To his shoulder in his longevity. Why not it worked in Japan nearly worked okay the first two years and 133. Games. Pretty good start. Why not say Daisuke you know we want to be right. And in you can rationalize embassy in psychologically it's the best thing we make him stick to a program he will be a basket case and you'll be in effect that's right. So what are we have to lose he'll be psychologically ineffective if we make him -- -- way or physiologically. In effectively do wears himself out doing it as what you think what's the difference that they all. -- program all the its expertise in large I think some of the David Wells -- well. We did show -- exceptions to the rule put that right that we saw whales and all that effective he was. He retirement twenty year career -- -- already with the -- million dollars with the -- I mean David Wells probably had a program. We cheat -- these teams with an -- -- who -- immediately -- -- -- what we want is a wonderful. And he blows nose and and we saw a spring training. You're gonna -- flip flopped half the time to showed up. Unite the free doughnuts and was on his way along off the left on his way home to an historic last to arrive first one -- and -- stuck to it and it worked okay terrible longevity and in their for a a good long could have been -- hall of Famer maybe -- Was in any kind of shape but he did okay via -- a lot of money won a lot of games. -- -- that point is there are exceptions to the rule and sometimes. I'm sure that that -- marks to their own drummer they must. And if this. And this -- this -- one of those cases yes because I wonder which filter if you make -- stick to your program and he feels this way right. There's psychological Barry right governing himself psychologically -- Armstrong were to join us this last team but he joined and they see what we understand you one. -- 677. -- president -- but we trained differently. Here on this team we're not gonna do it the way you do that to win the seven tour of France's worst to France we have a new program for you psychologically Atlanta -- said. Okay I'll give that a on the possibly go wrong now it's actually not so while Daisuke fire the guy who told them to do or -- kill or have guilt so my point is almost any -- Tom Brady. Were to suddenly have a new coach command or. God forbid be treated to another team and his new coach said we're doing it this way to do that Saturday agrees that somebody is psychologically strong and and and fop foundation. -- actually solid as Tom Brady would say. I have no problem see that's -- I think this is going to work another would be. Pass the bites like rocky in rocky two weeks we have to peace and you know we need speed speed is what we need bright and in the Mickey made of cheese and chicken around little fan right he if his heart wasn't -- that he didn't do it and and I on this stupid yeah. Until he bought into it -- rabbinate chicken and realized that Burgess Meredith that a plan. It was a waste time right but if you don't think it's -- can go to work exactly I -- as. Buy into the -- at all 100%. There are all wasting their time. Door to read that to read this story slam experience. This is hopeless mean at least for this year meanest of the day if any at some point an epic in. It's may -- neo -- next adorning -- -- manager of our training and good long while together and maybe work on. On that right now aren't the you know he's alone right with news translator and probably -- as a -- Manicurist that all down there. Is there anybody who's going to persuade him who who's going to. Convince him that the Red Sox have his best interest money went down there and. Ultimately not enemies if he's steadfast in his belief that that their training program is what has knocked him off his perch and so if you're Theo and John Ferrell when you're reading this today. -- drips and drabs of this. -- conversation -- -- -- -- our rights and so this is it's clear that could possibly be used quoted extensively here he -- all the blame had a percent of the blame on his. Americanized training program in -- -- if I'm Tito upon John -- from the Red Sox brass I say we what. Based on how bad he was in the way how how much of a tight wire he walked -- last year. -- her way to Burger King moment here. Mister Matsuzaka had your way. What to do what to do now to come back you -- marathon sessions -- -- whatever it's called knock yourself out and do the offseason we'll see when spring training and then you can pro west that we were wrong or maybe you'll find out that are stripping British program was right for you with the -- -- your career. I would do that. I would I would witness is one guy -- -- -- -- -- -- what you wanna do you do outside the program -- what ever makes you badly he's not buying into your programs list -- back -- -- seven flights to Japan a assumes a you all the things to make him comfortable and -- -- All that's sort of stuff that was all to make him. Comparable is any or any of those elements less comforting than being on the wrong any program on come to that right now and enemies in Fort Myers July. Who wouldn't be in my time to become uncomfortable.