Feb 13, 2017|
Rob Bradford sits down with new Red Sox bench coach Gary DiSarcina to discuss the behind-the-scenes scenario that led him back to the Red Sox, the ins and outs of his job, and his take on the comparison between his former player, Mike Trout, and Mookie Betts.
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Brad road show. That might open definitely probably would have brought that I don't. Wearing where you don't know what you're Brad boat show. That's delicious. Making your first appearance at the brow approach show podcast by it I suspect will be Mattie Mattie Mattie. Many appearances as scared he says Gina. New bench coach for the Boston Red Sox. And one of the finest Lowell spinners manager ever and I would say Gary as is the best. But honestly I I love a lot of those guys that went through that Jon being able to Alexei and all those guys so anyway well. Thanks in actually this is my first time ever be on a podcast as well enough to listen to long. Never been on long didn't really no one was so excited to be here and a break in the subzero. As it usually where city you'd be deck chairs have lava lamps around a solid time. I wanna get into a topic a little bit about which I wrote about the around the MVP congress time which is about move Keyon Mike Trout and every once in all my goodness don't you ever compare bookie bet the Mike Trout. Before I do that 1 I am curious I've known you for a while you obviously were at with the toss up as well have some history with a Red Sox. He'd take me through through the behind seeds how this came about with the with the whole bench coach job. I think the the grounds workers probably probably two years ago when Torre was up for the Minnesota job and he was a finalist. And. I think those you don't know when Jon and Nolan you know in the organization here in and haven't ties back there I always thought in my mind that. Field Torre left or if Bryant left or somebody left the that a complete BS to come back so we all went down. Those are expected to meet result because Mike he's a left to go to Arizona which in turn started yet dominoes to fall. I am I picked. Flash back to my relationship with John as the tuck it meant to Pawtucket manager. The year we won the World Series. John Torrey that's. Made me feel part of their staff even though I was there on a daily basis. Whether it's your phone calls emails. Checking in once in a Bogart's. Iglesias I don't players. So I had a really good working relationship with the without. Torre and Jones looked like when Torre landed the job done anything in Arizona but one of John's probably not a thought processes was. Going back to 2013. They know in the tepid job in the work that I do. It's one thing to be friends with somebody you know you don't hire friends to hire friends and I wouldn't want the job just being. Don't south different somebody wanna be good what you can do to be confident we have the ability to go out there and do the job I think. I think it just resonated with John. It when he asked me to commit to interview him. We started talking with a stick we connected don't come from the position player world and he comes from the pitcher world. As well as you know the farmed from you know it's farm director and his background there. Damn right I just think. With great in my player development and as my development as a staff Cameron stealing player development of this that we connected and I think we hit it off and I know the system a little bit some things have changed some things haven't. The nuts and bolts of the systems there. It's pretty seamless coming back re cultivate some of these relationships with the players and staff as well so. Just kind of fell down like that like Suze Mike he's a left. At all sort of how long how long was the interview floor. We talked on the phone for. Probably one minute yes we have that posted to student presumed announced the Angels mission. I sit yeah go ahead. We had about a two hour phone call. Guest to commit on Wednesday we sent on his office for about three and a half four hours. We were out to lunch for about another hour. And then they considered you touch real soon so. We know roughly probably about 56 little hours. I asked Billy Butler to GM meetings I said hey at the red flags out ready body permission for progression for rent from you guys to talk to your coaches. That if I was sick you take a pitcher brilliantly did general manager of the Angels face and believe me it was not hard to piece that together so. Yeah I think it'll happen during those meetings because Steve a headlock McDade yet we're spoke to David that he came back on Friday. And I had a 45 minute our conversation with him as well. In. It would all the town real quick but right around that time the GM music for those things happen just. When you're on your mind and you just you don't want to jinx everything you know just to keep quiet and just hopefully you don't tell you panic don't tell anybody. This one you know cross your fingers and hope things work so few and get that 11 phone call that's a positive on. Well so the bench coach dynamic which is kind of always weird to me because it did that ever gave up there was there as the bench coach is right now when I first came up. And then we had some changes. In the mid ninety's and Joseph Maddon became our. He was a first base coach when he went to the bench coach is Joseph wood just started talking about. The Saber metric thing you know we've introduced a computer. They went from being our daily schedule with Ambien hand written to being on a cell and economy just took it to another level. So when I went to the start missed and I talked to John and start talking witness obviously start talking with you influences in your life as a player who helped to. Good or bad like which emulate good or batter Floyd's what you know someone gets on in life you avoid doing now. But Joe's a couple of back to Joseph on how we treated me really treated our players and. Who's the guy to go to talked about anything and not just baseball and family issues we're talked about dinner wine. Travel. And you need that bit and penalize you won't know you you know you can feel on the B give their 162 games in spring train and these guys need an outlet other than baseball and that was Joseph men for me and sit down and talking to him about. We're to play guys I just wonder if you could put the visiting one of my locker every day. And it's not only put the visiting locker the visiting one of my locker but he put. His only copies of the spray charts and stuff like that was my introduction to what we call sabre net tournaments now. And so the bench coach. Not just look at the quality bench coach Summitt who allows the manager to manage. To do with the media to do with the front office to talk you know to the press in the in the medical side of the tickets sold what's going on you know especially in this town in the city. Jones pulled and so we different directions the bench coach there for the players to put out brush fires before they happen you know so that don't get to Joan and doesn't become a problem. Take care of the schedule of the minutia that did for the daily grind that you just have to deal with. That's it from him foot on the players side but there was talk books of the players. Feel comfortable talking to you whether it's on a plane ride. Went on a possible shenanigans. Where they just walk in the office today meant that the minute talk to you know what whether it's about playing time. We're to withstand all that stuff so. And I said that to on the first set on a setup it's hard to interview for bench coach to. You do it's because the as a third base coach you can talk about you signed system went to send runners when not to send runners. Really infield guys to talk about fundamentals but the bench coaches a lot of junk women a lot of communication listening. So I'm looking forward to and no touchdowns and Joseph Torre did a great job here. Look at the witness him in spring training 2013 of how we did it. So. But you're just kind of fall back a step towards. Well so. For the people who don't understand and you're educating everyone of the bench coach for for the people who owners to visit the last happens during the season. When the manager makes a move that you say. Then on talk radio like how in the world they make the move. Ultimately several say we're as the bench coach Oaxaca the bench coach who felt that those that that was a stupid move to out. So how does that dynamic. Well it's a bad move if I mean the bathroom. If it's a good move I'll be right next to John. I was thinking about this too and you've obviously got the last night and see the reaction of the crowd him and hope. Passionate people are here. Those decisions in those moves aren't made that at that moment there they're talked about four hours before five hours before. Two days before when we do our our prep meetings when that for new series. These are you know it's snapped spur of the moment decisions you know obviously you'd just Johnny just as he goes in the game and but did a good bench coach's perspective 223 innings ahead of them and trying to line up. He might be worried about something else he might be this so what's going on the duck and looks boring. But it looks like what are these guys to rebut. You understand Terry Francona had why do you wads of golf slash tobacco in front of the World Series this something must speak whatnot. There's a lot of that's it that's not just the bench coach as well you know when it comes into some epic night in and mean who knows our hitters better than Chilean Victor there with them every day there with them in the cage and so. The good bench coach globe today that took its okay what you think about the situation coming up and talked to John but maybe that you miss guys don't match up against this guy John has almost match ups with them he studies he's got a system. But like I said when you get the dugout it's start spinning and just like as a player and especially when you see these young players come up against Vince fast on saying things that same thing happens in Chicago. And so for those decisions that you're talking about the people on talk radio and people at home watching on us and know when they see it that like how could he do that. What what's he thinking but it's. And thought about talked about. Not just by him and me or him and Torre looked like Carl it it's not snapped. Answers of Ozzie have a good excellent yeah that's my thing is that if you have an explanation I can disagree with it but does have an explanation and usually usually does and and you'll gonna help to have that explanation so. Revelations on BBO. 88 top of the operate talk radio now as that's another that you grew up you know you. You grew up that you I don't off W I was early W your very familiar with this time. But so I worked to get to get over to mess of the two years it was like nine years ago. Tom Caron Grotrian nicely the first year that I ran away from up the second is still in the office that. So I'm I understand what I was one of the guys I was one of those. Go to college to talk radio I've never call them but I remember. In the mid eighties when Roger Clemens held out of spring training I was in college. My remit was a Mets fan ended up. You know the World Series in excess 86. But I remember being in this in the bleachers and you're in whatever year that was scream and yell and animus first time going out he was warming up to well. This made you held out and on the guy that's young and Roger Clemens so. The passion here is it's boiling all year long. Obviously comes to the forefront during the season in the offseason. It's always bubbling right on the surface he going to make it still trader. We're somewhat to to pitcher Pablo and hosted you know Gulbis resurfaces. In an offseason if the Patriots the Celtics the Bruins but. It's passion it's a daily passes tonight. I really think if you embrace it as a new coach new staff number new player you embrace it we'll take it personal. You know the talk radio that the fans yelling matches. Whether you have won here in the big leagues fifteen years in the big leagues. How I got through it was literally a third of the people gonna like you have a third of the people are gonna hate chip and after the Olympic here we was. So why waste time trying to deal with. Control what you control. The media has job to do is be accessible be accountable. You don't take it personal. And senators the people in time did did very passionate when it rained and the helicopter KB try to steal yes. Can't have a rain out man that. 25 years I only remember two. And I was fortunate to be one Parnell autumn so along those lines. You. Obviously. Is a unique experience with the Angels. One of the parts of that unique experience of getting a chance to see the player or one thinks is the best player in baseball Mike felt like by the way. So I said this before I get to be Mike Trout who keep that conversation. Bo Jackson said the other day that he wished he'd never played football I don't play baseball. I try to explain to be by I think that Bo Jackson as a baseball player I'm not say that you could that he would have the same careers might throw it may be I don't know. But that's the guy. This sort of they that you look at those two guys and they looked sort of the same and run is that accurate. We were both for his last years of being with Anaheim in 94 I believe. In that same body frame same body type. But I like I would combine I put Ken Griffey junior's if you could morph bone can Griffey junior then you have Mike Trout. You'll see in both the net post hip surgery in near the end of his career where I wasn't used to the speed as well. But seen both the shirt off well Mike Fisher off it's there but. They're men they're grown men Mike may act like a high school kid but he's a grown man. Well okay so. Once again the whole Mike Trout will keep that conversation the MVP conversation cropped up. It was really close this year but now the conversation about their careers as we close this trounced on it for a few years and smokey just started. But could you ever see where that becomes something where you're talking about oh. This debate about these two players I know that you haven't seen who you Tom are you familiar with them being in the organization. Different types of players to a certain degree but everyone just says you no one's ever gonna approach might throw what's your take them. I would never put limitations on anyone like that I mean Mike Micah I was in double A as a special assessment went down and watch them play in double play him. He wasn't it was a good player having a conversation with them in the dugout one day estimates that Mike you wanna be a major leaguer and you wanna be an impact player. He didn't hesitate he said impact player. And that was. I told a lot about his mindset. And when he gets to get to the big leagues he didn't get that immediate success he struggled for us those first two months coming up it's his call up. I think he just let those two guys be themselves let them be who they are. Mike's track right now is. This is ridiculous it's unbelievably you know but he could still get better these conversations and he knows he can get better on the base paths. Works he works real hard center field to get better in the outfield so I think what might. You haven't seen the best and like I guess it really put together yet. He has a really and you hear young and you've been around long term it doesn't really figure out how to hit until they're torn between like thirty years later in their career Mike is still. He's got that was the that's not. In bookie. Not seeing them and the minor leagues since he Michael Marley section it's tough to compare in there about seeing Mike do what he did loopy what he did though the Angels last year. The first thing it's about how we walked to the batter's box I mean he wants the batter's box confidence and obviously had a good year. And ready to do damage and hit the year he hurt us with a couple balls off the wall of Fenway. Change the game in Anaheim and really. Houston street ninth inning. Thought that was one of the days that the Red Sox really turned the corner there went up to Seattle and came back down the LA but they beat us to recruit one of the night and day game. The movie and he was in the middle of it and I think that's fight whether you intentionally walk him he gets on first. You might get thirty bags last your buddy at their quality when we needed one hit it about a seem to keep doing the same thing but just running around out there recklessly just trying to. Pad his stats but. I would never I don't do different body types like even look at it looking this was not this that height doesn't have the thickness. Coach at third base the best way to describe my toes is. If you went by you hear that. Really do you hear you hear what's. You know his cleats coming around here like ripping up the grass is goes by you he's like a freight train when it comes around. And I'm sure haven't coached there didn't you maturity just glides but different body type different gate the way they were on. And I made it known anytime Michaels on first or second it's always made sure I was off the line a little bit of the other midshipman into it and you're in the hospital. So different body types don't put limitations on them let them be themselves let it won't be who they are. I love the comparisons because. We try to do what might we see it as a staff that is what you as a reminder to. Guys go back to Mickey Mantle and I met the cumulative numbers on play and save body frame a little bit Rickey was a little bit older cars and as firm and strong. What is fine but they haven't making us like he's built it square you know that's a Mike isn't. What was the same way bought excitement quicker senate to get more those two Griffey junior and Moe I think you had my stroke. Well when you coach if you want to coach third base of the media game you'll also hear me coming around third base right about it it's a little bit different noise. By Derek thanks so much joy and and we are I'm very excited to do you know April longtime in that. And so just enjoy yourself before you have to actually run spring training now home. Trust me I know the bell rings you I'll be like despairing and a hole for what what is it six weeks sealer that aren't they scared.